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12:43:44 <Ralph> [enjoying -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vd2ct1Pljv8 "What is the Mastodon Social Network?"]
12:44:48 <koalie> -> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mastodon_(software) wikepedia: Mastodon (software)
12:45:19 <koalie> -> https://gitpitch.com/sandhawke/mastodon-talk-201705 Slides: Mastodon (mastodon.social)
12:48:25 <koalie> Meeting: W3C Tech Talk: Mastodon (mastodon.social)
12:48:28 <koalie> chair: Sandro
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13:03:32 <koalie> present+ Coralie
13:04:18 <koalie> present+ Bert, Antonio, François, Michael_Cooper, Ralph
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13:05:00 <sandro> Starting at 10 after, to give people time to watch the video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vd2ct1Pljv8     You still have time, just barely.
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13:06:00 <sandro> Webex: 312103410 or https://mit.webex.com/mit/j.php?MTID=mce16b21936e38ed86f78d731591e39ef
13:06:31 <koalie> present+ Naomi
13:07:36 <Ralph> scribenick: Ralph
13:07:44 <koalie> present+ Sandro
13:08:33 <koalie> present+ Karen
13:08:38 <koalie> present+ Jean-Gui
13:08:45 <Ralph> present+ Ralph
13:08:51 <marie> present+ marie
13:08:57 <sandro> slides are in the title, at https://gitpitch.com/sandhawke/mastodon-talk-201705
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13:11:07 <sandro> poll: +1 if you've tried mastodon now, -1 if you never will, 0 if you might
13:11:23 <marie> 0
13:11:24 <Bert> +1
13:11:24 <tripu> +1
13:11:25 <koalie> +1
13:11:26 <dom> +1
13:11:27 <tanya> 0
13:11:33 <Ralph> Ralph:0, about to be +1
13:11:33 <Jean-Gui> 0
13:11:53 <naomi> +1
13:11:57 <koalie> present+ Ivan
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13:12:20 <koalie> present+ Dom
13:12:21 <Bert> agenda+ How do you see (public) "Toots" without being logged in?
13:12:21 <Ralph> Sandro: gitpitch bug, sorry; need to copypaste the links
13:12:26 <weiler> present+ weiler
13:12:33 <Ralph> move to next item
13:12:33 <Zakim> agendum 1. "Visibility of this meeting record" taken up [from Ralph]
13:12:55 <Ralph> Sandro: I propose the record be public and if you want something not public say "scribeoff" first
13:13:03 <Ralph> [no objections]
13:13:06 <Ralph> ... so resolved
13:13:14 <koalie> RRSAgent, make logs public
13:13:21 <Ralph> Sandro: to parts to the slide deck
13:13:32 <Ralph> s/to /two /
13:13:42 <Ralph> ... the second part is a bunch of stuff I find fascinating
13:14:01 <Ralph> [slide: Q: Will this take over the world?]
13:14:15 <Ralph> Sandro: this is the best thing we've seen in years for re-decentralization
13:14:29 <Ralph> ... there's been a lot of groundwork in recent years
13:14:35 <Ralph> ... from TimBL in particular
13:14:46 <Ralph> ... I'm willing to bet enough on this one to go all-in
13:15:04 <Ralph> [slide: Q: Can the technology scale to everyone on the planet?]
13:15:40 <Ralph> Sandro: unproven, but the architecture is like email so it probably can scale to the planet
13:15:59 <koalie> w/ 35
13:16:05 <koalie> s|w/ 35/|
13:16:40 <Ralph> ... afaik no one is hosting video now, and not many photos
13:17:01 <Ralph> ... so costs will rise for those and you should expect to pay
13:17:20 <Ralph> [slide: W3C Standards & Mastodon]
13:17:27 <Ralph> Sandro: how does this relate to W3C?
13:17:44 <Ralph> ... built on 10-year-old OStatus
13:17:49 <weiler> q+ re: naming (might be scaling - if naming is on the agenda separately feel free to ack me later)
13:18:17 <Ralph> ... identi.ca and status.net prototyped things on this stack
13:18:41 <Ralph> ... ActivityPub inherits the OStatus tradition, by the same people, fixing some things
13:19:29 <Ralph> ... the Mastodon developers have expressed interest in moving to ActivityPub
13:19:41 <sandro> q?
13:19:58 <Ralph> ... and asking the AC for support to extend the Social Web WG to allow for possible changes during CR
13:20:02 <Zakim> weiler, you wanted to discuss naming (might be scaling - if naming is on the agenda separately feel free to ack me later)
13:20:16 <Ralph> Sam: email, jabber, etc. fail badly if the host fails
13:20:24 <Ralph> ... your identity is still bound to a host
13:20:28 <Ralph> ... is that solved here?
13:20:44 <Ralph> Sandro: no, and that's my biggest issue -- #1 in github
13:20:50 <Ralph> ... there's brainstorming on how to handle this
13:20:51 <koalie> -> https://github.com/tootsuite/mastodon Mastodon on Github
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13:21:01 <Ralph> Sam: Another Layer of Indirection!
13:21:14 <Ralph> Sandro: it might be able to be solved socially too
13:21:23 <Ralph> ... we've figured out how to do this in email
13:21:44 <Ralph> Sam: err, my mail host failed this weekend and I couldn't get mail :(
13:22:20 <Ralph> ... but if Mastodon doesn't hide the redundancy as gmail does ...
13:22:39 <sandro> q?
13:23:07 <Ralph> Sandro: I haven't heard of problems yet, but certainly it's a problem with the [current] architecture
13:23:09 <koalie> present+ vivien
13:23:19 <Ralph> [slide: Run a W3C Instance?]
13:23:26 <Ralph> Sandro: Sure, why not?
13:23:39 <ivan> q+
13:24:35 <Ralph> Ivan: I see an advantage [of having our own host]; it's easy to filter for only those messages coming through our host
13:24:52 <Ralph> ... which would be only those messages of interest to folks with accounts on our host
13:25:34 <Ralph> Sandro: yeah, and if we get a lot of our community moving to our instance that might work
13:26:17 <koalie> q+
13:26:18 <Ralph> Sandro: if we believe in decentralization -- which I think we do -- this demonstrates that it works
13:26:37 <Ralph> Coralie: historically SysTeam has been reluctant to install such software
13:26:44 <tripu> q+
13:26:54 <Ralph> ... any SysTers care to react?
13:27:16 <Ralph> Sandro: I did talk with Ted about this, though I'd be fine running it myself for 6 months or so
13:27:25 <tripu> q-
13:27:26 <tripu> :)
13:27:33 <Ralph> ... Ted's concern is that he doesn't like to assign domain names for services that might not persist
13:28:05 <Ralph> [tripu raised his hand, then lowered it.]
13:28:23 <Ralph> Sandro: one can have twitterbots but there are mixed feelings about that
13:28:51 <Ralph> ... various experiments on github integration
13:29:23 <Ralph> ... W3C doesn't have to run all of those; others can do so
13:29:41 <Ralph> Sandro: so, if we do run our own instance what should we call it?
13:29:49 <Ralph> ... my current preference is "social.w3.org"
13:29:49 <tripu> I am no spokesman, but I think the Systeam prefer folks experiment with their own OpenStack instances (anyone from staff can do that), and launch 'official' services only when proved useful -- for the sake of efficiency etc.
13:30:07 <Ralph> ... we can reuse that for another service if we decide to abandon Mastodon
13:30:49 <Ralph> Sandro: [responding to tripu's comment] we can certainly experiment but we do have to commit to a domain name
13:30:56 <sandro> poll: shall we go ahead with social.w3.org?
13:31:02 <koalie> +1
13:31:04 <Ralph> Ralph: 0
13:31:13 <ivan> 0
13:31:18 <sandro> no long term commitment
13:31:19 <Ralph> s/Ralph:/<Ralph>
13:31:23 <tripu> -1, as social is generic, and we might need to host Moonsterdom in the future
13:31:43 <Ralph> Vivien: as soon as you advertise a domain name that's a commitment, so be carefule
13:31:47 <Ralph> s/fule/ful
13:31:56 <Ralph> ... and Ted needs to approve *.w3.org names
13:32:07 <Ralph> ... so please generate a formal request
13:32:14 <naomi> 0
13:32:19 <Ralph> Sandro: yes; I understand -- I'm trying to get a sense from this channel
13:32:42 <Ralph> <Ralph> not yet even a novice, so abstaining for now
13:33:13 <ivan> q+
13:33:18 <Jean-Gui> q+
13:33:22 <Ralph> Sandro: using 'social.w3.org' allows us to adopt some other fork if we decide we prefer it
13:33:30 <Ralph> ... without losing identies
13:33:49 <Ralph> Ivan: I abstained but I absolutely agree that we should use mastodon.w3.org
13:33:49 <dom> [but keeping accounts / url structure etc requires some level of compatibility with mastodon for the future system we would pick]
13:33:53 <dom> [naming is hard]
13:33:54 <Ralph> ... but let's not bikeshed here
13:34:14 <Ralph> Jean-Gui: I am a bit concerned about hosting such a service with no longterm commitment
13:34:44 <Ralph> ... if people use our service and then we decide to turn it off, those [early adopters] would lose their accounts
13:34:55 <Ralph> ... if the accounts can't be easily migrated they lose
13:35:12 <Ralph> ... I don't like the idea of creating an account, even if we say it might be temporary
13:35:19 <Ralph> Sandro: nodding vigorously
13:35:28 <Ralph> ... a lot like "cool URIs don't change"
13:36:02 <Ralph> ... we could set an example; if we do decide to shut down the service, how to best do it?
13:36:23 <Ralph> ... if we have fewer than 10 active users in 6 months we can more easily say "sorry, you're out of luck"
13:36:30 <vivien> q+
13:36:35 <Jean-Gui> q-
13:36:37 <dom> [having a clearer plan around discontinuation would help assessing whether that's an experiment worth pursuing]
13:36:44 <Ralph> ... I expect there might be migration software in 6 months also
13:36:45 <sandro> queue=
13:36:56 <Ralph> Vivien: is the experiment to use Mastodon or to deploy our own instance?
13:37:11 <Ralph> ... shouldn't we start by using an existing host?  e.g. mastodon.social?
13:37:18 <koalie> [I heard Sandro say "let's set an example"]
13:37:30 <Ralph> ... might be good to ask some folk who are regular twitter users
13:37:43 <Ralph> Sandro: yeah; we have some in our community who are already users
13:38:08 <Ralph> ... e.g. a server was created for the CSS WG, though I don't know how much use it is getting
13:38:21 <koalie> scribenick: koalie
13:38:28 <Ralph> ... there's some advantage to running our own experiment
13:38:44 <Bert> -1 (We could possibly have accounts for the team @...@w3.org, once it's clear Mastodon succeeds. But for the rest it's supposed to be distributed; people van be @name@my-own-domain instead.)
13:39:03 <koalie> Ralph: reacting to Vivien, the reason I personally wouldn't want to sign up is because I don't know if I want to commit to using the service
13:39:09 <koalie> ... so that's another way to look at it
13:39:24 <sandro> q?
13:39:25 <vivien> [I don't have a twitter account, and barely use facebook either, so I doubt that I'll start making a lot of "toots"]
13:39:27 <koalie> ... if W3C decides to continue running it and I decide to not continue, I just have to kill my account
13:39:27 <sandro> q-
13:39:48 <koalie> ... however, I signed up on the mit's instance at the start of the meeting
13:40:04 <koalie> ... that lands me to the idea of my community, w3c, offering an instance
13:40:15 <koalie> Sandro: Bert, you -1'ed
13:40:19 <koalie> ... may I hear why?
13:40:19 <vivien> BTW rigo is absent but I know he is interested to use it (not sure of his use case so)
13:40:34 <Ralph> Ralph: I'm interested in _my_ community running an experiment so I can decide how much I personally want to commit
13:40:40 <Ralph> scribenick: Ralph
13:40:49 <Ralph> Bert: I don't think it's time for W3C to visibly commit
13:41:04 <koalie> q+
13:41:05 <Ralph> ... once we do, I don't think it should be a public service open to all
13:41:24 <Ralph> ... as it's distributed, others can create their own services
13:41:25 <vivien> Bert, is right. Do we want people to create IamASpammer@mastodon.w3.org ?
13:41:49 <Ralph> Sandro: one subtlety is that, unlike email, there are local discussion features such that instances are communities
13:42:01 <Ralph> ... the main deployment scenario is that a community has a server for its community
13:42:24 <Ralph> ... and if an individual is a member of multiple communities, the user joins (logs-in to) multiple instances
13:42:36 <Ralph> ... "federated" is the preferred approach right now
13:42:52 <Ralph> ... that view is what has attracted the huge growth in the number of users
13:43:18 <koalie> q-
13:43:48 <Ralph> Bert: topic channels are necessary to be sensible for communities
13:43:51 <vivien> q+
13:43:56 <Ralph> Sandro: I'm thinking "TPAC lunch"
13:44:26 <Ralph> Vivien: wouldn't we be better served by something like a 'slack' alternative?
13:44:32 <Ralph> ... how different is this from slack?
13:44:48 <Ralph> Sandro: I understand the slack functionality as irc with a better UI
13:44:50 <vivien> I had Mattermost in my mind https://www.mattermost.org/features/
13:45:07 <Ralph> ... in irc and slack there's a group and everyone in the group sees everything
13:45:19 <Ralph> ... Mastodon is more like microblogging; you see what you subscribe to
13:45:26 <Ralph> ... like twitter
13:45:32 <Ralph> ... it's a different feel
13:45:40 <Ralph> ... and Mastodon scales better
13:45:55 <Ralph> ... twitter scales in ways that chat rooms don't
13:47:21 <vivien> ack me
13:47:27 <Ralph> [slide: Some of my favorite topics]
13:47:49 <Ralph> Sandro: if there are no other questions, here's stuff that interests me
13:47:54 <Ralph> [slide: Do Folks Want Bridging?]
13:48:28 <Ralph> Sandro: these bridges are not all implemented yet, though some gateways exist
13:48:37 <Ralph> ... I personally would like to be able to read all these in one place
13:49:19 <Ralph> ... but when you post, should it be the case that your post is gatewayed out everywhere?  There are different styles in the different systems
13:50:12 <Ralph> ... and should "boost"s (retweets) be gatewayed all the time?
13:50:29 <Ralph> Sandro: my theory is that the bridge should be bult as a means to boostrap
13:51:10 <Ralph> ... though Mastodon has had success without bridges
13:52:02 <koalie> +1 on bridging
13:52:04 <Ralph> ... Eric Ries' experience was that after building bridges to his new system, his users really wanted the system to not be bridged
13:52:12 <Ralph> ... so that development effort was a waste
13:52:23 <sandro> poll: would brdingig make a big difference to whether you use and recommend mastodon?
13:52:29 <dom> +1
13:52:31 <tanya> +1
13:52:32 <naomi> +1
13:52:34 <Bert> +1 to Atom feeds. The best way I found so far to get news when I want it, formatted the way I want it.
13:52:36 <koalie> +1
13:52:43 <tripu> 0
13:52:44 <ivan> no, it would give me the possibility to get rid of the huge amount of useless twitter feeds
13:52:45 <marie> +1
13:53:01 <dom> (I've found it hard to adopt mastodon because posting both to Twitter and mastodon was too much work)
13:53:04 <Ralph> <Ralph> I definitely don't want outbound bridging.  I'm not ready to commit on inbound bridging; I'm pretty happy with &microblog
13:53:19 <Ralph> Vivien: @@
13:53:44 <Ralph> ... if bridging is available on the Mastodon server, is it a per-user decision to use it?
13:54:12 <Ralph> Sandro: bridging is not yet deployed, but yes; I imagine that users would turn it on in the way they want to use it
13:54:26 <Ralph> Vivien: in that case people won't be using Mastodon as just another twitter client
13:54:50 <Ralph> Sandro: if all their interactions are with twitter users then, yes, they'd be just another twitter client
13:55:35 <Ralph> [slide: Algorithmic Feeds]
13:55:54 <Ralph> Sandro: right now Mastodon is like twitter was at first; you see everything
13:56:06 <Ralph> ... I'd like sliders to set how much I'd like to see
13:56:26 <Ralph> ... I'm interested in this area for my own research
13:56:37 <Ralph> ... ties in with abuse and social climate topics
13:56:50 <Ralph> [slide: Application Areas]
13:57:01 <Ralph> Sandro: I push for decentralizing all applications
13:57:13 <Ralph> ... the platform can be extended for many areas
13:58:02 <Ralph> ... [brainstorming] a request for a ride share might go out to people who aren't your followers
13:58:25 <Ralph> [slide: Social Climate Issues]
13:58:34 <Ralph> Sandro: dealing with "unacceptable" views
13:58:44 <Ralph> ... these are huge social issues in the world
13:58:49 <Ralph> ... twitter hasn't solved it
13:58:56 <Ralph> ... I think algorithmic feeds are a solution
13:58:58 <ivan> is Trump on mastodon?
13:59:06 <vivien> :))
13:59:14 <Ralph> [slide: Stats]
13:59:37 <koalie> thanks, Sandro!
13:59:41 <Ralph> Sandro: the Social Web CG is meeting tomorrow; feel free to join
13:59:45 <koalie> thank you Ralph for scribing
13:59:51 <Ralph> Ivan: what's next?
14:00:12 <Ralph> Sandro: there's an AC review on extending the Social Web WG
14:00:42 <Ralph> ... whether to create a W3C instance
14:00:56 <Ralph> ... there's a million things I'd like to do to make it better
14:01:19 <Ralph> ... I have an idea of doing a viral survey of instance admins to help people understand what level of commitment an admin makes
14:01:37 <vivien> q+
14:01:52 <koalie> RRSagent, make minutes
14:01:52 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2017/05/18-mastodon-minutes.html koalie
14:01:55 <vivien> from sandro's admin survey "Where is the money coming from to operate this instance?"
14:02:14 <Ralph> Bert: I figured out that you can find a "toot" stream by copying the link before it is redirected
14:02:28 <Ralph> Ivan: I haven't found a way to see who I'm following
14:02:39 <Ralph> Sandro: nor have it, but there's a CSV export!
14:03:05 <Ralph> ... the default interface doesn't seem to have a nice 'edit my followers' panel
14:03:14 <koalie> [Coralie drops off to go to next call]
14:03:21 <Ralph> Ivan: the community does seem to be using hashtags; how do I create one?
14:03:35 <Ralph> Sandro: if you click on a hashtag you see all the posts that your instance knows about
14:03:42 <Ralph> ... a federated timeline
14:04:10 <Ralph> ... so the MIT instance will show you all the posts on the instance and all the posts subscribed to by others on your instance
14:04:44 <Ralph> Ivan: can I store a hastag search?
14:04:49 <Ralph> s/hast/hasht
14:05:00 <Ralph> ... so I don't have to keep searching?
14:05:01 <tripu> sandro++
14:05:02 <tripu> mastodon++
14:05:12 <Ralph> Sandro: subscribe to a hashtag?  I've not seen that functionality yet
14:05:39 <Ralph> ... there are so many things that are missing now; I'd not have released a system yet, but there are *so* many users already
14:05:50 <sandro> q?
14:05:57 <sandro> ack vivien
14:06:11 <Ralph> Vivien: about spam ...
14:06:31 <koalie> RRSagent, make minutes
14:06:31 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2017/05/18-mastodon-minutes.html koalie
14:06:36 <Ralph> ... I don't want Mastodon to harm the W3C image
14:06:55 <Ralph> ... how much work will [running Mastodon] represent?
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14:07:02 <Ralph> Sandro: moderation tools
14:07:19 <Ralph> ... there's a 'report this' item on the 3dot menu
14:07:33 <Ralph> ... can ban users who appear to be spamming
14:07:41 <Ralph> ... can ban instances who are not stopping spammers
14:07:58 <Ralph> ... this won't stop the many-new-accounts-every-day attacks
14:08:28 <Ralph> ... we might someday choose to tie accounts on our instance to having a W3C account
14:08:37 <Ralph> ... one thing that killed the blogosphere @@
14:08:47 <sandro> :-)
14:08:49 <Ralph> Vivien: I'm thinking about our bad experience with public wikis
14:08:58 <Ralph> ... even requiring a W3C account hasn't stopped the spam
14:09:00 <tripu> s/@@/is that it got spammed/
14:09:18 <Ralph> Sandro: this isn't quite as bad as wikis because @@1
14:10:08 <sandro> sandro: because stuff from spammer wont be widely seen -- only shows up on local timeline, and hashtag -- maybe that is bad.
14:10:14 <sandro> q?
14:10:49 <Ralph> Sandro: how can I resolve the w3c instance question?
14:10:56 <Ralph> ... I don't like to proceed with a -1
14:11:07 <Ralph> Vivien: SysTeam would probably object to a publicly open service
14:11:17 <Ralph> ... you might need to give us some time to think about security issues
14:11:31 <Ralph> <ralph> social.labs.w3.org ?
14:11:50 <Ralph> Sandro: Ralph's suggest is so wrong
14:12:03 <Ralph> ... that's saying "you're gonna have to move if it becomes successful]
14:12:08 <Ralph> ... like X- headers
14:12:13 <Ralph> s/]/"
14:12:19 <koalie> RRSagent, make minutes
14:12:19 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2017/05/18-mastodon-minutes.html koalie
14:12:25 <Ralph> <ralph> which is precisely the nature of the conflict with SysTeam
14:12:55 <Ralph> Sandro: and I like the idea that W3C visibly endorses this to some degree
14:13:01 <Ralph> <ralph> TimBL can decreee
14:13:04 <Ralph> s/eee/ee
14:13:36 <Ralph> Sandro: I don't understand why domain names must be viewed as so persistent
14:13:55 <Ralph> ... social.w3.org is not really different from labs.w3.org
14:14:18 <vivien> I'd like to have 10+ staff members supporting this idea (but users who know, use the tool and will commit continue using it during the experiment period)
14:14:25 <Ralph> <ralph> I think we should allow ourselves to experiment with domain names
14:14:50 <koalie> RRSagent, make minutes
14:14:50 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2017/05/18-mastodon-minutes.html koalie
14:14:54 <Ralph> [adjourned]
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14:16:21 <koalie> RRSagent, make minutes
14:16:21 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2017/05/18-mastodon-minutes.html koalie
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14:28:44 <Ralph> FYA -- http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=toots
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14:33:39 <vivien> <vivien> GNU Social: https://www.gnu.org/software/social/
14:33:39 <vivien> <vivien> In June 2013, we merged with the StatusNet project.
14:33:39 <vivien> <vivien> https://www.gnu.org/software/social/merge.html
14:33:39 <vivien> <vivien> https://gnu.io/
14:33:51 <vivien> "GNU social is a continuation of the StatusNet project"
14:34:56 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2017/05/18-mastodon-minutes.html Ralph
14:35:50 <vivien> [[
14:35:51 <vivien> On June 8th, 2013 the developers of GNU social are pleased to announce a merger with both the Free Social project and the StatusNet project. Free Social developer and founder, Mikael Nordfeldth and GNU social founder, Matt Lee will co-manage the project. StatusNet founder and Federated Web pioneer Evan Prodromou, will remain active on the project as an advisor and occasional contributor.
14:35:52 <vivien> ]]
14:36:16 <RRSAgent> I'm logging. I don't understand 'please draft minutes v3', vivien.  Try /msg RRSAgent help
14:36:21 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2017/05/18-mastodon-minutes.html Ralph
14:42:08 <vivien> sandro, micro.w3.org (inspired by the GNU Social instance: https://micro.fragdev.com/main/all)
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