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14:50:20 <addison> agenda?
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14:50:38 <addison> zakim, bye
14:50:38 <Zakim> leaving.  As of this point the attendees have been Addison, Jan, Richard, Bert, David, r12a, najib, JcK, r12a-limechat, David_
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14:50:58 <addison> agenda+ Agenda
14:51:01 <addison> agenda+ Action Items
14:51:05 <addison> agenda+ Info Share
14:51:12 <addison> agenda+ Radar Review
14:51:45 <addison> agenda+ Review and close Charmod-Norm issues
14:51:54 <addison> agenda+ Support for bidi in strings
14:52:09 <addison> agenda+ OWL-Time comments
14:52:24 <addison> agenda+ IMSC 1.0.1 review
14:52:42 <addison> agenda+ ORDL review
14:52:54 <addison> agenda+ AOB
14:53:02 <addison> trackbot, prepare teleconference
14:53:05 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs world
14:53:08 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be 4186
14:53:08 <trackbot> Meeting: Internationalization Working Group Teleconference
14:53:08 <trackbot> Date: 18 May 2017
14:53:08 <Zakim> ok, trackbot
14:53:25 <addison> Chair: Addison Phillips
14:53:34 <addison> ScribeNick: addison
14:53:47 <addison> Agenda: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2017May/0017.html
14:53:53 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2017/05/18-i18n-minutes.html addison
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15:03:12 <Bert> present+
15:03:25 <addison> present+
15:03:33 <addison> present+ JcK
15:03:37 <addison> present+ Steve
15:05:26 <addison> agenda?
15:05:33 <addison> zakim, take up agendum 1
15:05:33 <Zakim> agendum 1. "Agenda" taken up [from addison]
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15:06:26 <addison> present+ David
15:07:02 <addison> zakim, take up agendum 2
15:07:02 <Zakim> agendum 2. "Action Items" taken up [from addison]
15:07:19 <addison> https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/open
15:08:17 <addison> action-552?
15:08:17 <trackbot> action-552 -- Addison Phillips to Write to json-ld about potential for a serialization form for natural language strings to address issues with dir and lang -- due 2016-09-29 -- OPEN
15:08:17 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/552
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15:08:53 <addison> change json-ld to TAG
15:09:28 <addison> action-554?
15:09:28 <trackbot> action-554 -- Addison Phillips to Work to schedule a review of microformats -- due 2017-03-30 -- OPEN
15:09:28 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/554
15:10:01 <addison> close action-554
15:10:01 <trackbot> Closed action-554.
15:10:28 <addison> action-612?
15:10:28 <trackbot> action-612 -- Addison Phillips to Create a bidi/lang recommendations document in order to go to tag -- due 2017-04-27 -- OPEN
15:10:28 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/612
15:11:25 <addison> zakim, take up agendum 3
15:11:25 <Zakim> agendum 3. "Info Share" taken up [from addison]
15:11:34 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2017/05/18-i18n-minutes.html addison
15:15:17 <addison> richard: made change to the raising comments template
15:15:43 <addison> ... now it says "put comment above here" instead of below
15:16:03 <addison> ... send suggestions for improvements
15:16:20 <addison> zakim, take up agendum 4
15:16:20 <Zakim> agendum 4. "Radar Review" taken up [from addison]
15:16:33 <addison> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/projects/1
15:19:06 <addison> action: addison: notify html that we completed 5.2 and don't have comments
15:19:07 <trackbot> Created ACTION-619 - Notify html that we completed 5.2 and don't have comments [on Addison Phillips - due 2017-05-25].
15:20:11 <addison> http://w3c.github.io/i18n-activity/projects/
15:20:51 <addison>  http://w3c.github.io/i18n-activity/reviews/
15:21:21 <addison> lina: regarding the bidi support, move isolation support forward. what's implied here?
15:21:40 <addison> richard: that's in html5, the dir attribute isolates now
15:21:48 <addison> ... but not all browsers have implemented
15:21:52 <addison> ... mainly edge
15:21:56 <addison> ... have some tests
15:22:10 <addison> lina: covers creating test cases and helping improve impl?
15:22:21 <addison> richard: and also pushing implementers make the behaivor happen
15:22:28 <addison> lina: need help?
15:22:33 <addison> richard: yes please!
15:22:35 <r12a> https://www.w3.org/International/tests/repo/results/the-dir-attribute-isolation
15:22:43 <addison> richard: requirements results above
15:22:52 <addison> ... most issues from Edge
15:23:00 <addison> ... also a problem with Safari/Webkit
15:23:17 <addison> ... they have webkit prefixed values that work, but not the standard names
15:23:50 <addison> ... so that css-shim things make it work, but not just the dir attribute. have capability, haven't turned on
15:24:06 <addison> ... if there are people from those marketplaces and think important, then raise issue
15:24:33 <addison> agenda?
15:25:01 <addison> zakim, take up agendum 7
15:25:01 <Zakim> agendum 7. "OWL-Time comments" taken up [from addison]
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15:27:13 <addison> zakim, take up agendum 8
15:27:13 <Zakim> agendum 8. "IMSC 1.0.1 review" taken up [from addison]
15:27:41 <addison> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/399
15:27:54 <addison> steve: glyph collisions?
15:28:42 <r12a> https://www.w3.org/TR/ttml-imsc1.0.1/#itts-fillLineGap
15:28:59 <addison> https://www.w3.org/TR/ttml-imsc1.0.1/#itts-fillLineGap
15:33:26 <Lina_Kemmel> Fig. 1 Illustrative rendition of the example immediately above with itts:fillLineGap="true" removed (left) or preserved (right).
15:33:29 <r12a> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/415
15:34:19 <Lina_Kemmel> I think it should use bidi-aware terms instead of 'left' and 'right'
15:35:15 <r12a> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/414
15:35:29 <Lina_Kemmel> sorry please discard
15:43:16 <r12a> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/413
15:43:53 <r12a> discuss with Addison present
15:44:20 <r12a> Topic: ORDL
15:44:22 <r12a> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3Apoe
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15:45:51 <r12a> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/410
15:52:49 <r12a> some suggestions for builds on the comment - Bert to develop
15:52:50 <r12a> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/411
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15:54:22 <r12a> raise as individual comment
15:54:36 <r12a> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/412
15:55:47 <r12a> raise as individual comment
15:56:29 <Bert> http://www.w3.org/mid/42714835.tlS2jh6AkV@nyx
15:59:01 <r12a> https://w3c.github.io/poe/vocab/#xml-example
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16:01:36 <r12a> Bert to check that monetary and numeric values use a standard syntax, rather than allowing culturally variable formats
16:01:44 <r12a> meeting adjourned
16:02:06 <r12a> rrsagent, draft minures
16:02:06 <RRSAgent> I'm logging. I don't understand 'draft minures', r12a.  Try /msg RRSAgent help
16:02:11 <r12a> rrsagent, draft minutes
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16:03:00 <r12a> s/ORDL/ODRL/
16:03:06 <r12a> rrsagent, draft minutes
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16:14:14 <addison> zakim, bye
16:14:14 <Zakim> leaving.  As of this point the attendees have been Bert, addison, JcK, Steve, David
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16:38:08 <r12a> s/<Lina_Kemmel> Fig. 1 Illustrative rendition of the example immediately above with itts:fillLineGap="true" removed (left) or preserved (right).//
16:38:18 <r12a> s/<Lina_Kemmel> I think it should use bidi-aware terms instead of 'left' and 'right'//
16:38:29 <r12a> rrsagent, draft minutes
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16:38:55 <r12a> s/<Lina_Kemmel> sorry please discard//
16:39:54 <r12a> s/<Lina_Kemmel> sorry please discard//
16:39:58 <r12a> rrsagent, draft minutes
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