IRC log of aria-apg on 2017-05-15

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17:01:12 [mck]
zakim, clear agenda
17:01:12 [Zakim]
agenda cleared
17:01:16 [jamesn]
zakim, agenda?
17:01:16 [Zakim]
I see nothing on the agenda
17:01:17 [mck]
agenda+ Modal Dialog
17:01:19 [mck]
agenda+ Name calculation for parent nodes in trees and menus
17:01:20 [mck]
agenda+ Focus for coming week
17:01:48 [jamesn]
rrsagent, make log world
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meeting: ARIA APG TF
17:02:07 [mck]
Meeting: Authoring Practices Task Force for May 15, 2017
17:02:11 [jemma]
present+ JaEunJemmaKu
17:02:14 [sirib]
Present+ Shirisha Balusani
17:02:20 [AnnAbbott]
present+ AnnAbbott
17:02:22 [mck]
present+ matt_king
17:02:31 [jamesn]
present+ JamesNurthen
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rrsagent, make minutes
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2017/05/15-aria-apg-minutes.html mck
17:03:43 [AnnAbbott]
Who is "Karuna"?
17:03:51 [jemma]
agneda?
17:04:12 [jamesn]
karuna, who are you?
17:05:16 [aaronlev]
present+ aaronlev
17:05:28 [sirib]
present+ ShirishaBalusani
17:05:29 [jemma]
what is agenda?
17:05:43 [mck]
https://github.com/w3c/aria-practices/wiki/May-15%2C-2017-Meeting
17:06:11 [AnnAbbott]
scribe: AnnAbbott
17:07:15 [AnnAbbott]
zakim, next item
17:07:15 [Zakim]
agendum 1. "Modal Dialog" taken up [from mck]
17:07:51 [AnnAbbott]
mck: editing work not done yet and hasn't seen any commits from Michiel
17:08:22 [AnnAbbott]
zakim, next item
17:08:22 [Zakim]
agendum 2. "Name calculation for parent nodes in trees and menus" taken up [from mck]
17:09:07 [AnnAbbott]
mck: some activity within last week & Aaron raised issue
17:09:41 [AnnAbbott]
https://github.com/w3c/aria-practices/issues/395
17:10:17 [AnnAbbott]
present+ BryanGaraventa
17:11:30 [AnnAbbott]
mck: 3 patterns use aria-labelledby or aria-label to specify name of parent
17:12:22 [AnnAbbott]
mck: per Aaron, this is unnecessary
17:12:54 [AnnAbbott]
mck: agrees with name specification
17:13:40 [AnnAbbott]
mck: none of content in group should be in name calc
17:13:58 [AnnAbbott]
mck: need to change 7 examples in 3 patterns
17:15:32 [jemma]
aron: firefox works right, I am working on chrome
17:17:03 [AnnAbbott]
I'm back, Jemma - THANKS!
17:17:57 [AnnAbbott]
AL: name calc is recursive
17:21:09 [AnnAbbott]
mck: remove aria-labelledby and aria-label
17:21:58 [AnnAbbott]
AA: how does screen reader have an accessible label for Project 1 without aria-labelledby or aria-label
17:23:02 [AnnAbbott]
mck: content of treeitem not included in group
17:23:42 [AnnAbbott]
AL: browser computes the accessible name
17:25:48 [AnnAbbott]
mck: name from content doesn't include subgroup info
17:38:15 [AnnAbbott]
mck: name from content and/or name from author is from ARIA spec
17:39:43 [AnnAbbott]
mck: spec seems inconsistent on whether children are presentational
17:41:55 [AnnAbbott]
mck: diff between widgets and structures
17:43:14 [AnnAbbott]
mck & AL: table whether children presentational
17:44:14 [AnnAbbott]
mck: #395 - create other issues to change examples
17:45:10 [AnnAbbott]
mck:: clean up APG before putting out another Working Draft
17:46:02 [AnnAbbott]
mck: fixing may be easy if not in javascript or css
17:47:48 [AnnAbbott]
zakim, next item
17:47:48 [Zakim]
I do not see any more non-closed or non-skipped agenda items, AnnAbbott
17:49:04 [AnnAbbott]
TOPIC: Focus for coming week - Around the table regarding any other blockers in current milestone.
17:53:46 [AnnAbbott]
rssagent, make minutes
17:53:58 [AnnAbbott]
rrsagent, make minutes
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2017/05/15-aria-apg-minutes.html AnnAbbott