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17:01:12 <mck> zakim, clear agenda
17:01:12 <Zakim> agenda cleared
17:01:16 <jamesn> zakim, agenda?
17:01:16 <Zakim> I see nothing on the agenda
17:01:17 <mck> agenda+ Modal Dialog
17:01:19 <mck> agenda+ Name calculation for parent nodes in trees and menus
17:01:20 <mck> agenda+ Focus for coming week
17:01:48 <jamesn> rrsagent, make log world
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17:01:56 <jamesn> meeting: ARIA APG TF
17:02:07 <mck> Meeting: Authoring Practices Task Force for May 15, 2017
17:02:11 <jemma> present+ JaEunJemmaKu
17:02:14 <sirib> Present+ Shirisha Balusani
17:02:20 <AnnAbbott> present+ AnnAbbott
17:02:22 <mck> present+ matt_king
17:02:31 <jamesn> present+ JamesNurthen
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17:02:40 <mck> rrsagent, make minutes
17:02:40 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2017/05/15-aria-apg-minutes.html mck
17:03:43 <AnnAbbott> Who is "Karuna"?
17:03:51 <jemma> agneda?
17:04:12 <jamesn> karuna, who are you?
17:05:16 <aaronlev> present+ aaronlev
17:05:28 <sirib> present+ ShirishaBalusani
17:05:29 <jemma> what is agenda?
17:05:43 <mck> https://github.com/w3c/aria-practices/wiki/May-15%2C-2017-Meeting
17:06:11 <AnnAbbott> scribe: AnnAbbott
17:07:15 <AnnAbbott> zakim, next item
17:07:15 <Zakim> agendum 1. "Modal Dialog" taken up [from mck]
17:07:51 <AnnAbbott> mck: editing work not done yet and hasn't seen any commits from Michiel
17:08:22 <AnnAbbott> zakim, next item
17:08:22 <Zakim> agendum 2. "Name calculation for parent nodes in trees and menus" taken up [from mck]
17:09:07 <AnnAbbott> mck: some activity within last week & Aaron raised issue
17:09:41 <AnnAbbott> https://github.com/w3c/aria-practices/issues/395
17:10:17 <AnnAbbott> present+ BryanGaraventa
17:11:30 <AnnAbbott> mck: 3 patterns use aria-labelledby or aria-label to specify name of parent
17:12:22 <AnnAbbott> mck: per Aaron, this is unnecessary
17:12:54 <AnnAbbott> mck: agrees with name specification
17:13:40 <AnnAbbott> mck: none of content in group should be in name calc
17:13:58 <AnnAbbott> mck: need to change 7 examples in 3 patterns
17:15:32 <jemma> aron: firefox works right, I am working on chrome
17:17:03 <AnnAbbott> I'm back, Jemma - THANKS!
17:17:57 <AnnAbbott> AL: name calc is recursive
17:21:09 <AnnAbbott> mck: remove aria-labelledby and aria-label
17:21:58 <AnnAbbott> AA: how does screen reader have an accessible label for Project 1 without aria-labelledby or aria-label
17:23:02 <AnnAbbott> mck: content of treeitem not included in group
17:23:42 <AnnAbbott> AL: browser computes the accessible name
17:25:48 <AnnAbbott> mck: name from content doesn't include subgroup info
17:38:15 <AnnAbbott> mck: name from content and/or name from author is from ARIA spec
17:39:43 <AnnAbbott> mck: spec seems inconsistent on whether children are presentational
17:41:55 <AnnAbbott> mck: diff between widgets and structures
17:43:14 <AnnAbbott> mck & AL: table whether children presentational
17:44:14 <AnnAbbott> mck: #395 - create other issues to change examples
17:45:10 <AnnAbbott> mck:: clean up APG before putting out another Working Draft
17:46:02 <AnnAbbott> mck: fixing may be easy if not in javascript or css
17:47:48 <AnnAbbott> zakim, next item
17:47:48 <Zakim> I do not see any more non-closed or non-skipped agenda items, AnnAbbott
17:49:04 <AnnAbbott> TOPIC: Focus for coming week - Around the table regarding any other blockers in current milestone.
17:53:46 <AnnAbbott> rssagent, make minutes
17:53:58 <AnnAbbott> rrsagent, make minutes
17:53:58 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2017/05/15-aria-apg-minutes.html AnnAbbott