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14:11:11 <trackbot> Meeting: WebFonts Working Group Teleconference
14:11:11 <trackbot> Date: 10 May 2017
14:11:15 <ChrisL> Chair: Vlad
14:11:48 <ChrisL> Present: Rod, Sergey, Chris, Ned, Vlad
14:12:00 <Vlad> present+
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14:12:17 <ChrisL> (we have some issues with webex call being cancelled)
14:12:39 <ChrisL> scribenick: ChrisL
14:13:18 <ChrisL> Vlad: old issues on google woff2 decoder are still there causing two test fails
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14:13:36 <ChrisL> present+ kuettel
14:13:53 <ChrisL> Vlad: Khaled said it was an easy fix to the code
14:14:30 <ChrisL> rsheeter: looks easy to fix but have not had time to do it until after Google io next week
14:15:07 <ChrisL> action: rsheeter to fix the two google woff decoder issues, due in 4 weeks
14:15:15 <trackbot> Error creating an ACTION: could not connect to Tracker.  Please mail <sysreq@w3.org> with details about what happened.
14:15:29 <ChrisL> ok come on, trackbot
14:16:41 <rsheeter> Vlad: how do we move to next state? Need two implementations
14:16:54 <rsheeter> ChrisL: 4 browsers, great interop, no second implementation
14:16:57 <ned> present+
14:17:27 <rsheeter> present+
14:17:42 <rsheeter> scribe: rsheeter
14:18:37 <rsheeter> ChrisL: some online tools don't fully support ttc, some convert it to multiple woff2s
14:18:41 <ChrisL> online conversion tools either fault on collections, or convert to individual woff2 files one per simple font
14:20:45 <rsheeter> ChrisL only path to two implementations now is hiring someone to build a second that nobody would use
14:22:29 <rsheeter> *virtual hat passed around*
14:22:37 <ChrisL> which seems pointless waste of time
14:24:54 <ChrisL> rsheeter: have not tried doing code coverage tests
14:25:08 <ChrisL> Vlad: could be used as an argument that the code is well reviewed
14:25:24 <ChrisL> rsheeter: we have an internal fuzzer and also goggles OS fuzzer
14:25:38 <ChrisL> ... and as part of chrome
14:25:43 <rsheeter> Fuzzed internally, by https://github.com/google/oss-fuzz, and I believe as part of Chromium too
14:26:07 <rsheeter> We also have a unit test suite internally. For whatever reason I don't think we ever released it to github.
14:27:14 <ChrisL> woff2 ua tests now part of WPT
14:29:18 <ChrisL> not clear what to do for font tests themselves, last time for woff1 we ran the validator on them from each foundry and they said like 88 fonts tested all passed, that sort of thing
14:29:47 <ChrisL> rsheeter: we can come up with numbers on % of wefonts being served as woff2
14:30:23 <ChrisL> kuettel: we can shaere % of sites serving as woff2 through http archive for top 500k homepages
14:30:31 <ChrisL> ... over next week or so
14:31:02 <ChrisL> ... like we did for the font media type
14:31:16 <ChrisL> ... just need to dig up the right query
14:31:38 <ChrisL> action kuettel to dig through http archive for woff2 deployment numbers
14:31:39 <trackbot> Created ACTION-204 - Dig through http archive for woff2 deployment numbers [on David Kuettel - due 2017-05-17].
14:32:04 <kuettel> https://fonts.google.com/analytics
14:32:05 <ChrisL> kuettel: we publish traffic by browser, we could send that
14:32:48 <ChrisL> action: Rod to fix the two google woff decoder issue
14:32:48 <trackbot> Error finding 'Rod'. You can review and register nicknames at <http://www.w3.org/Fonts/WG/track/users>.
14:32:59 <ChrisL> action: Sheeter to fix the two google woff decoder issue
14:32:59 <trackbot> Created ACTION-205 - Fix the two google woff decoder issue [on Roderick Sheeter - due 2017-05-17].
14:33:22 <ChrisL> Vlad: that is all on my agenda list
14:34:30 <ChrisL> to fix the two google woff decoder issue
14:34:39 <ChrisL> https://blogs.windows.com/msedgedev/2016/05/03/woff2-fonts-in-microsoft-edge/#cmdQ846EmWC26XJQ.97
14:36:06 <ChrisL> https://github.com/Fyrd/caniuse/issues/2976 Safari supports WOFF2, but on Sierria onwards
14:36:49 <ChrisL> https://webkit.org/blog/6643/improved-font-loading/
14:39:10 <ChrisL> Regrets: Ken_Lunde
14:39:18 <ChrisL> rrsagent, make minutes
14:39:18 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2017/05/10-webfonts-minutes.html ChrisL
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