IRC log of i18n on 2017-04-27

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trackbot, prepare teleconference
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Zakim, this will be 4186
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Meeting: Internationalization Working Group Teleconference
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Date: 27 April 2017
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ok, trackbot
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Chair: Addison Phillips
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ScribeNick: addison
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Agenda: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2017Apr/0017.html
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Regrets: Felix
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agenda+ Agenda
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agenda+ Action Items
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agenda+ Info Share
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agenda+ Radar
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agenda+ CSS Text Decoration
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agenda+ Support for bidi in strings
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agenda+ AOB?
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present+ Steve
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present+ Richard
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present+ Addison
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present+ Jan
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zakim, take up agendum 1
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agendum 1. "Agenda" taken up [from addison]
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agenda?
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richard: html review
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zakim, take up agendum 2
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agendum 2. "Action Items" taken up [from addison]
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https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/open
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action-611?
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action-611 -- Addison Phillips to Contact martin to see if unicode-xml will be worked on soon so that wg can decide if alternate next steps are needed -- due 2017-04-27 -- OPEN
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http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/611
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action-613?
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action-613 -- Richard Ishida to Add pictures of successful rendering to bidi strings doc -- due 2017-04-27 -- OPEN
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http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/613
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close action-613
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Closed action-613.
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action-553?
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action-553 -- Addison Phillips to Work with richard to develop a pros/cons document describing the different bidi-in-json handling proposals -- due 2016-09-29 -- OPEN
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http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/553
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stale
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close action-553
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Closed action-553.
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zakim, take up agendum 3
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agendum 3. "Info Share" taken up [from addison]
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zakim, take up agendum 4
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agendum 4. "Radar" taken up [from addison]
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https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/projects/1
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richard: reviewed html52 bits that changed
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... came up with only one issue
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... came up with a non-i18n issue too
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.. which I forwarded
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addison: 51 holdovers?
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richard: several in our list
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... not sure status
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addison: schedule time next week to review
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... IMSC due
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https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/376
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http://w3c.github.io/i18n-activity/projects/
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richard: issues arising on grapheme clusters in Indic
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... from unicode
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... where you break grapheme clusters
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... only tells part of story and possibly problematic
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... for cases where character shape can differ
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... need more folks involved in indic work; needs a relaunch?
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addison: not sure, given what we know, that there's a solution
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richard: reviewing the javascript course
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... not a lot to say about i18n
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... did add 3 pages of stuff on keyboards and such
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... could be good basis for an article?
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... not doing anything with escapes in this basic course
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https://github.com/w3c/i18n-drafts/projects/1
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action: addison: finalize floating time article for publication
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Created ACTION-615 - Finalize floating time article for publication [on Addison Phillips - due 2017-05-04].
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agenda?
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zakim, take up agendum 5
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agendum 5. "CSS Text Decoration" taken up [from addison]
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http://w3c.github.io/i18n-activity/reviews/
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richard: went through fantasai's disposition of comments
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... at her request
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... some things where she's looking for feedback
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... labeled those as pending
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http://w3c.github.io/i18n-activity/reviews/
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https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/23
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addison: that may need a title adjustment. thread zeroed in on emphasis marks on punctuation?
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agenda?
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https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/389
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richard: some additional text now in the first comment box
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... this is a tracker issue, contrib to the actual issue, etc.
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... that will pop up when we create a new "tracker" issue
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... if you click on new issue you'll see a para
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http://w3c.github.io/i18n-discuss/notes/string-base-direction.html
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zakim, take up agendum 6
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agendum 6. "Support for bidi in strings" taken up [from addison]
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richard: look at from 2 perspectives
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... for proposals but also for specdev as intro text
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zakim, take up agendum 7
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agendum 7. "AOB?" taken up [from addison]
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richard: ruby content model notes
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https://w3c.github.io/i18n-discuss/notes/ruby-content-model
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Topic: Ruby Content Model
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2017/04/27-i18n-minutes.html addison
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richard: initial stab
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... ruby annotation spec and html5 have different models
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... other specs doing it too
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... css also has needs developing
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... so basic content model for ruby
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... core base
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richard: *not* saying "this is how to ruby in html5"
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... establish the core. if you want to add nested, that's an addition
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... not describing the markup either
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... just relationship
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addison: mising fallback?
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Topic: support for direction
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richard: html5 changed to make dir attribute do bidi isolation
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... other browsers do that, but edge does not
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... possible to encourage that?
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jan: will try to share
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richard: here's a link to tests
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https://www.w3.org/International/tests/repo/results/the-dir-attribute-isolation
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s/indic work; needs a relaunch?/indic work; needs to be updated faster/
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rrsagent, draft minutes
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