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12:52:58 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be
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12:52:59 <trackbot> Meeting: Accessible Platform Architectures Working Group Teleconference
12:52:59 <trackbot> Date: 19 April 2017
12:53:14 <jasonjgw> agenda+ CAPTCHA: reporting of findings
12:53:33 <jasonjgw> agenda+ Authentication: clarifying and discussing research questions
12:53:47 <jasonjgw> agenda+ Miscellaneous research topics
12:53:56 <jasonjgw> present+ jasonjgw
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13:03:16 <jasonjgw> zakim, next item
13:03:16 <Zakim> agendum 1. "CAPTCHA: reporting of findings" taken up [from jasonjgw]
13:03:25 <janina> present+
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13:03:31 <janina> scribe: janina
13:03:59 <janina> jgw: Scott has posted a draft of findings for the Captcha update
13:04:12 <janina> jgw: Also good discussion in APA for process going forward
13:04:15 <scott_h> present+
13:04:33 <janina> jgw: Someone in APA will take ownership and will be responsible for liaison to RQTF
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13:05:56 <sloandr> present+
13:08:38 <janina> sh: Believe it's a summary of our discussions with references
13:10:13 <janina> sh: Also, people aren't necessarily users of English charset
13:10:44 <janina> sh: Also discusses other captcha types not referenced in the existing note
13:14:51 <janina> js: Asks for better word of classification than "English charset"
13:14:59 <janina> jgw: Also have references to add
13:18:05 <janina> [discussion re referencing style]
13:20:05 <janina> js: Suggesting we may want to add references last, after finalizing text
13:20:44 <janina> ds: Offering my help, as far as able
13:22:52 <janina> [discussion of process, github, wiki, editing email]
13:25:48 <jasonjgw> Janina: Once RQTF has completed the report, APA will consider it. Janina and any other editors on the APA side will then integrate its findings into a revision of the note, and thereafter it will be revised in response to comments from RQTF/APA. Ultimately it will lead to a Call for Consensus.
13:26:11 <jasonjgw> Janina: once consensus is reached, APA will publish a Note with appropriate attributions.
13:27:49 <janina> action: jasonjgw to add references and integrate Scott's material in Captcha report
13:27:49 <trackbot> Error finding 'jasonjgw'. You can review and register nicknames at <http://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/users>.
13:28:13 <janina> zakim, who's here?
13:28:13 <Zakim> Present: jasonjgw, janina, scott_h, sloandr
13:28:15 <Zakim> On IRC I see sloandr, scott_h, Judy, Zakim, RRSAgent, shadi, jasonjgw, janina, trackbot
13:28:56 <jasonjgw> zakim, next item
13:28:56 <Zakim> agendum 2. "Authentication: clarifying and discussing research questions" taken up [from jasonjgw]
13:29:46 <janina> rrsagent, make minutes
13:29:46 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2017/04/19-rqtf-minutes.html janina
13:30:19 <janina> jgw: Noting that AGWG is discussing success criteria for authentication
13:30:46 <janina> jgw: Traditional password, but also other strategies, especially those that require memorizing something
13:31:10 <janina> jgw: Some issues re short term memory vs long term
13:31:59 <janina> jgw: APA interest is in W3C specs for authentication, and in defining a11y reqs
13:32:50 <jasonjgw> Janina underlines the importance of use cases and requirements, supported by references to research. The issues are most likely to arise in implementations rather than in the specifications.
13:33:38 <jasonjgw> There is a parallel with media accessibility. A good specification needs to be implemented in an accessible manner in user agents, but for this to occur we need strong use cases and requirements.
13:33:58 <jasonjgw> Janina supports the involvement of the Accessibility Guidelines Working Group.
13:34:17 <janina> ds: Recalling I was looking at a learning example I will followup on
13:34:47 <janina> ds: We should remove the captcha ones to tighten our list
13:35:08 <janina> jgw: There's also the notion of continuous authentication
13:35:45 <janina> jgw: If some heuristic determines the user is no longer the one who authenticated, a new authentication challenge is posed by the app
13:36:44 <janina> jgw: W3C Authentication WG thinks in terms of risk analysis
13:37:39 <janina> jgw: So we need to ask whether AT, or other a11y behavior might trigger this inappropriately
13:38:34 <sloandr> New section to build on in our existing Authentication reference list: https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/task-forces/research-questions/wiki/Authentication_references#Emerging_uses_of_authentication_technology_to_focus_on
13:38:36 <janina> jgw: We just don't know about this
13:39:05 <janina> zakim, who's here?
13:39:05 <Zakim> Present: jasonjgw, janina, scott_h, sloandr
13:39:07 <Zakim> On IRC I see sloandr, scott_h, Judy, Zakim, RRSAgent, shadi, jasonjgw, janina, trackbot
13:40:06 <janina> [discussion on our ability to share among our wg the copyrighted content we're examining]
13:40:15 <janina> jgw: There's a process
13:40:41 <janina> jgw: It's a kind of digital inter-library loan
13:43:39 <janina> jgw: Both EU's M376 and US Sec 508 require multiple biometric options, especially to not limit to a particular biometric
13:50:42 <jasonjgw> Jason suggests reading more of the authentication references and identifying further literature (as well as unresolved research questions) related to the topics arising in this discussion.
13:54:42 <janina> action: sloandr Work with Scott to continue review of authentication literature and reference listings due 2 weeks
13:54:43 <trackbot> Created ACTION-2125 - Work with scott to continue review of authentication literature and reference listings due 2 weeks [on David Sloan - due 2017-04-26].
13:55:26 <janina> jgw: Can join this review once Captcha writeup is done
13:55:37 <jasonjgw> zakim, next item
13:55:37 <Zakim> agendum 3. "Miscellaneous research topics" taken up [from jasonjgw]
13:56:21 <janina> ds: Will be reconnecting with Silver work
13:58:02 <jasonjgw> Janina: two areas that should be addressed as giving rise to research questions. (1) payments, and (2) automotive - autonomous vehicle accessibility is one use case; autonomous buses.
13:58:16 <jasonjgw> Janina doesn't know who is working on this in a cross-disability context.
13:58:37 <jasonjgw> APA hasn't had the resources to work on this adequately.
13:58:46 <jasonjgw> Janina notes the need to attend to both of these issues.
14:03:55 <janina> zakim, bye
14:03:55 <Zakim> leaving.  As of this point the attendees have been jasonjgw, janina, scott_h, sloandr
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14:04:02 <janina> rrsagent, make minutes
14:04:02 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2017/04/19-rqtf-minutes.html janina