IRC log of silver on 2017-04-14

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Zakim, this will be
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I don't understand 'this will be', trackbot
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Meeting: Silver Task Force Teleconference
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Date: 14 April 2017
13:36:12 [jeanne]
agenda+ research checkin
13:36:12 [jeanne]
agenda+ Next steps on research projects in the Silver Community Group
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agenda+ Meeting at TPAC?
13:36:12 [jeanne]
agenda+ What can members of the Community Group help us with
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asynchronously?
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agenda+ email draft to Stakeholders
13:36:31 [jeanne]
agenda?
13:36:41 [jeanne]
zakim, close item 5
13:36:41 [Zakim]
agendum 5, Korean Mobile standards English translation, closed
13:36:42 [Zakim]
I see 5 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
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6. research checkin [from jeanne]
13:36:45 [jemma]
present+ sarah, jeanne, jemma
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I can scribe
13:37:13 [jeanne]
scribe: jemma
13:37:30 [jeanne]
zakim, take up item 6
13:37:30 [Zakim]
agendum 6. "research checkin" taken up [from jeanne]
13:37:34 [jemma]
can you hear me?
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present+ Jennison
13:39:06 [jemma]
regret+ shawn, sukil, jan
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regret+ david
13:39:50 [SarahHorton]
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1Bsqv595CnSzmUa2Tv53duudNvn_ExTW6xGx-6_ECM7c/edit#gid=55201506
13:39:56 [jemma]
agenda 1
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next
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next item
13:42:16 [jemma]
sarah is in touch base with stanley
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one of research partners
13:42:54 [jeanne]
agenda+ Survey questions
13:43:41 [jemma]
msu members are meeting this week to discuss
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the survey about current status of WCAG support for the people
13:45:11 [jemma]
no update for Eleanor till IRB is done
13:45:36 [jemma]
MSU is also working on IRB approval process
13:45:55 [jemma]
Sukil's update is done
13:46:02 [jemma]
this tuesday
13:46:24 [jemma]
david swallow has a proposal
13:49:32 [jemma]
david is composing diary study
13:50:11 [jemma]
initially he thought about long term study with users
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but decided on more short term and more number of diary studies
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reporting of user experience of accessibility guidelines
13:51:35 [jemma]
diary studies will be useful for this purpose
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his deliverable will be qualitative and quantitive report
13:52:43 [jemma]
The first diary study will begin in May 2017.
13:54:08 [jemma]
Jeanne: TF's research compensation support?
13:54:42 [jemma]
Jeanne: sarah, can you help with this?
13:55:00 [jemma]
sarah: David will be the better person to do this with his expereince
13:55:43 [jeanne]
action: Jeanne to talk with Dave to draw up a budget to support research - particularly self-reporting studies.
13:55:44 [trackbot]
Created ACTION-81 - Talk with dave to draw up a budget to support research - particularly self-reporting studies. [on Jeanne F Spellman - due 2017-04-21].
13:56:04 [jemma]
s/david/dave
13:59:25 [jemma]
jemma: no update for the researcher in Japan yet
13:59:42 [jemma]
jeanne: we may need to work more on asynchronous way
14:00:44 [jemma]
there can be challenges in terms of language and time zone
14:00:54 [jeanne]
agenda?
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to work synchonosly
14:01:19 [jemma]
zakim, take up item 11
14:01:19 [Zakim]
agendum 11. "Survey questions" taken up [from jeanne]
14:02:35 [jemma]
preview for online survey by Peter McNally
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discussing the survey questionnaire by Peter McNally - interested in UX designer's experience
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designed using Qualtrics
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sarah: he has pretty to in depth questions
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sarah: he is trying to figure out which in depth questions can be done in survey or in depth interviews
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Jennison: accessibility of third party survey tool tends to be good but some of keyboard may not work. qualitrics would work well including survey monkey
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sarah:Pete's questions include
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"How well does the current structure of W3C Accessibility Guidelines support learning and remembering key principles of web accessibility?"
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which is pretty good
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also ask whether respondents are interested in 30-45 minute phone interview during May or June 2017
14:10:37 [jemma]
Pete is planning to attend Silver TF meeting coming Tuesday
14:11:01 [jemma]
TF members can look at the survey and talk about it at the meeting.
14:18:16 [jemma]
zakim, take up item 10
14:18:16 [Zakim]
agendum 10. "email draft to Stakeholders" taken up [from jeanne]
14:20:53 [jemma]
jeanne: background of this email
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is from the regular meeting with michale cooper
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michale suggested to set up new form asking them to clarify their roles
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s/them/stakeholders
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to connect them to research partners
14:24:47 [jemma]
jeanne: we also want to engage stakeholders
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and invite them to be part of community group
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and give updated info about the project progress
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and be part of research projects
14:25:51 [jemma]
that is the background of this email
14:26:15 [jemma]
sarah: survey isn't created yet, is it?
14:26:48 [jemma]
jeanne: no. I am thinking about the design - how I can put multiple stakeholders in the survey form
14:27:10 [jemma]
Sarah: stakeholder grouping may be misleading
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in the form
14:28:00 [jemma]
sarah: I would list stakeholder roles but refrain grouping of stakeholders using header
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jennison: sometimes heading is helpful for accessibility but I get Sarah's points for 31 stakeholder roles
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being grouped by categories
14:29:33 [jemma]
jeanne: we mapped stakeholders with their roles and actions
14:30:13 [jeanne]
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/128vPnCweXN9t4JBG7-AOeBhT-KquaWXcCsi3H-f8u94/edit#gid=0
14:30:47 [jemma]
role are RolesActionConsultMake PolicyUse PolicyMake ContentTeachResearchMake StandardsMake decisionsHelp people with disabilitiesBeneficiary of standardsCommunicateMeasure/test
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s/Roles/by
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jeanne: we would like to capture both official title(ex: developer) and formal/informal responsibility in the role
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we have 31 roles for now
14:34:57 [jemma]
jennison: in terms of sorting prospect,action based role may be easier for researchers.
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s/prospect/perspective
14:36:32 [jeanne]
agenda+
14:36:37 [jeanne]
agenda?
14:36:46 [jemma]
zakim, take up item 8
14:36:46 [Zakim]
agendum 8. "Meeting at TPAC?" taken up [from jeanne]
14:37:11 [jeanne]
https://www.w3.org/2017/11/TPAC/
14:37:31 [jemma]
tpac is annual meeting for working group
14:38:00 [jemma]
we can do formal and informal meetings
14:38:20 [jemma]
monday, tuesday and thursday are reserved for workgroup meetings
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friday is plenary meeting day
14:39:04 [jemma]
s/friday/wednesday
14:39:47 [jemma]
jeanne: break sessions for the group are available
14:40:06 [jemma]
jeanne: we can do breakout session
14:41:43 [jemma]
date is 6-10 NOVEMBER 2017
14:42:57 [jemma]
jeanne: we did last min breakout session last year
14:43:56 [jemma]
jeanne: Shawn and I can do one this year on Wed
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if necessary
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we can get only a room for two hours
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jennison: I would be able to attend the session
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jennison: that would be a good public engagement
14:48:54 [jemma]
jennison:CSUN will be a good venue for prototyping
14:49:40 [jemma]
jeanne: CSUN and TPAC are good bookmarks for the silver TF projects
14:50:59 [jemma]
jeanne: we have an space offer from accessibility dept in community college for the meeting
14:51:04 [jemma]
s/an/a
14:54:12 [jemma]
sarah: in the TPAC, there is brainstorming method and more which can be part of the prototype such as visioning workshop
14:54:57 [jemma]
jeanne: any chance for connecting to meet up group?
14:55:23 [jemma]
jeanne: having 2 hour visioning workshop?
14:55:34 [jemma]
jennison: that would be very attractive to the group
14:56:29 [jemma]
jennison: I can help to find a venue
14:56:52 [jemma]
jeanne: we can also bring TPAC people
14:57:17 [jemma]
jeanne:having accessibility meet up in the night will be good.
14:57:36 [jemma]
jennison: our meet up schedule can be flexible
14:58:21 [jemma]
9th of november?
14:59:16 [jemma]
jennison: our group is "bay area accessibility and inclusive design meet up" - have 900 members
14:59:50 [jeanne]
rrsagent, make minutes
14:59:50 [RRSAgent]
I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2017/04/14-silver-minutes.html jeanne
15:00:17 [jeanne]
rrsagent, make logs public
15:01:06 [jeanne]
regrets+ Shawn, Sukil, Dave, Jan
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chair: Jeanne
15:21:04 [jeanne]
rrsagent, make minutes
15:21:04 [RRSAgent]
I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2017/04/14-silver-minutes.html jeanne
15:22:10 [jeanne]
s/asynchronously?//
15:22:23 [jeanne]
rrsagent, make minutes
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2017/04/14-silver-minutes.html jeanne
17:20:25 [jeanne]
trackbot, end meeting
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Zakim, list attendees
17:20:25 [Zakim]
As of this point the attendees have been Jan, Jeanne, Shawn, JaEunJemmaKu, sarahhorton, Jemma, Jennison, Sukil, sukilkim
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RRSAgent, please draft minutes
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2017/04/14-silver-minutes.html trackbot
17:20:34 [trackbot]
RRSAgent, bye
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I see 1 open action item saved in http://www.w3.org/2017/04/14-silver-actions.rdf :
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ACTION: Jeanne to talk with Dave to draw up a budget to support research - particularly self-reporting studies. [1]
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