IRC log of aria-apg on 2017-04-10
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- 17:03:35 [jamesnurthen]
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- meeting: ARIA APG TF
- 17:03:57 [annabbott]
- present+ AnnAbbott
- 17:04:08 [jamesnurthen]
- present+
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- present+ Bryan Garaventa
- 17:04:27 [mck]
- present+ matt_king
- 17:04:33 [sirib]
- present + Shirisha Balusani
- 17:04:53 [mck]
- https://github.com/w3c/aria-practices/issues?q=is%3Aopen+is%3Aissue+milestone%3A%22Jan+2017+Clean+Up%22+sort%3Aupdated-desc
- 17:05:31 [jamesnurthen]
- scribe: jamesnurthen
- 17:05:54 [jamesnurthen]
- MK: Start at the top of the list. Walk through and work out what we are going to discuss
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- https://mit.webex.com/mit/j.php?MTID=m4b54b847795d432ef8a2ba82e488fea2
- 17:09:33 [jamesnurthen]
- https://github.com/w3c/aria-practices/issues/321
- 17:09:46 [jamesnurthen]
- MK: will look at this with Tatiana.
- 17:10:11 [jamesnurthen]
- https://github.com/w3c/aria-practices/issues/334
- 17:10:19 [jamesnurthen]
- MK: assume this is still outstanding
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- 17:11:13 [jemma]
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- 17:11:25 [jamesnurthen]
- https://github.com/w3c/aria-practices/issues/144
- 17:11:41 [jamesnurthen]
- MK: have to merge - there is a PR related
- 17:11:55 [jamesnurthen]
- https://github.com/w3c/aria-practices/pull/340
- 17:13:13 [jamesnurthen]
- merged the new PR into it
- 17:14:51 [jamesnurthen]
- MK: will do final checks on 340 - feedback has been addressed
- 17:18:19 [jamesnurthen]
- Logged https://github.com/w3c/aria-practices/issues/355
- 17:18:57 [jamesnurthen]
- MK: 1 thing we dont have in menu examples is an example of using aria-owns rather than putting the children inside the menu item
- 17:19:57 [jemma]
- arrow keyboard navigation in vertical menubar will be reverse of horizontal menubar's
- 17:20:08 [jamesnurthen]
- MK: vertical menubar priority is relatively low
- 17:22:43 [jamesnurthen]
- https://github.com/w3c/aria-practices/issues/325
- 17:24:03 [jamesnurthen]
- http://w3c.github.io/aria-practices/#dialog_modal
- 17:24:08 [sirib]
- is it 325?
- 17:27:54 [jamesnurthen]
- yes 325
- 17:34:07 [jemma]
- +q
- 17:35:06 [jamesnurthen]
- bryan: dont understand its purpose if it is not to hide the content from at users
- 17:37:59 [jamesnurthen]
- When a modal element is displayed, authors must ensure the interface can be controlled using only descendants of the modal element. In other words, if a modal dialog has a close button, the button should be a descendant of the dialog. When a modal element is displayed, authors should mark all other contents as inert (such as "inert subtrees" in HTML) if the ability to do so exists in the host language.
- 17:38:02 [jamesnurthen]
- (from the spec)
- 17:38:53 [jamesnurthen]
- MK: it is a screen reader's job to limit navigation to stuff inside a modal
- 17:39:02 [jamesnurthen]
- MK: what makes something inert is the real issue
- 17:39:50 [jamesnurthen]
- seems to me that is a screen reader user can see what is outside the dialog - it is still the author's job to ensure that activating links outside the dialog doesn't do anything.
- 17:48:57 [jamesnurthen]
- MK: if you can see and operate outside the dialog should not be using aria-modal
- 17:52:24 [jamesnurthen]
- JN: will work on it
- 17:53:13 [jamesnurthen]
- When a modal element is displayed, authors must ensure the interface can be controlled using only descendants of the modal element. In other words, if a modal dialog has a close button, the button should be a descendant of the dialog. When a modal element is displayed, authors should mark all other contents as inert (such as "inert subtrees" in HTML) if the ability to do so exists in the host language.
- 17:53:22 [jemma]
- ack me
- 17:53:23 [jamesnurthen]
- https://github.com/w3c/aria-practices/issues/279
- 17:53:42 [jamesnurthen]
- MK: gave Feedback in the issue
- 17:54:01 [jamesnurthen]
- MK: ready to close
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- https://github.com/w3c/aria-practices/issues/224
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- <discussion on change>
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- 18:05:03 [sirib]
- It is little confusing
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