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12:52:15 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be
12:52:15 <Zakim> I don't understand 'this will be', trackbot
12:52:16 <trackbot> Meeting: Accessible Platform Architectures Working Group Teleconference
12:52:16 <trackbot> Date: 15 March 2017
12:52:40 <jasonjgw> agenda+ CAPTCHA: Preparation of findings, writing/editing process
12:53:27 <jasonjgw> agenda+ Personalization: W3C background and research questions
12:53:50 <jasonjgw> agenda+ Web of Things: accessibility requirements - next steps
12:54:20 <jasonjgw> agenda+ Other research topics (authentication, etc.).
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12:59:22 <janina> present+
13:01:42 <scott_h> present+
13:16:23 <jasonjgw> zakim, clear agenda
13:16:24 <Zakim> agenda cleared
13:16:39 <jasonjgw> zakim, bye
13:16:39 <Zakim> leaving.  As of this point the attendees have been janina, scott_h
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13:16:47 <jasonjgw> rrsagent, bye
13:16:47 <RRSAgent> I see no action items
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13:22:59 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be
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13:23:00 <trackbot> Meeting: Accessible Platform Architectures Working Group Teleconference
13:23:00 <trackbot> Date: 15 March 2017
13:23:46 <jasonjgw> agendum+ CAPTCHA: reporting of findings
13:23:52 <jasonjgw> agenda+ Web of Things discussion
13:23:58 <jasonjgw> agenda+ Other topics
13:24:09 <janina> scribe: janina
13:24:15 <janina> zakim, next item
13:24:15 <Zakim> agendum 1. "CAPTCHA: reporting of findings" taken up [from jasonjgw]
13:24:58 <janina> jgw: Looking now to organize reporting to APA
13:25:21 <janina> jgw: APA would appreciate report as notes referencing the APA Teuring Note
13:25:42 <janina> jgw: We will need to discuss the logistics
13:25:59 <janina> jgw: Wiki? An html doc that we forward around? Main author? etc., etc
13:26:18 <Judy> Judy has changed the topic to: https://mit.webex.com/mit/j.php?MTID=m42de4ca4c7574974b9ff51c0a6b4ae05   647 020 314
13:27:43 <janina> sh: Prefer not wiki, but others are OK
13:30:02 <janina> js: Asks Scott about git chops
13:30:09 <janina> sh: Willing to give it a go
13:30:18 <janina> jgw: We need to check with David
13:31:01 <janina> jgw: Will find out about a github for us
13:31:06 <janina> js: Ask Michael
13:31:30 <janina> jgw: Each of us should reread the APA Note:
13:31:55 <janina> http://www.w3.org/TR/turingtest
13:34:47 <janina> js: Reviews basic github setup -- everyone needs an account
13:36:01 <janina> action: jgw to annotate the Teuring Test document to indicate where RQTF findings can be applied
13:36:01 <trackbot> Error finding 'jgw'. You can review and register nicknames at <http://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/users>.
13:36:24 <janina> action: jasonjgw to annotate the Teuring Test document to indicate where RQTF findings can be applied
13:36:24 <trackbot> Error finding 'jasonjgw'. You can review and register nicknames at <http://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/users>.
13:36:39 <janina> zakim, who's here?
13:36:39 <Zakim> Present: (no one)
13:36:41 <Zakim> On IRC I see RRSAgent, scott_h, Judy, janina, jasonjgw, trackbot, MichaelC, shadi
13:36:46 <janina> present+
13:36:49 <jasonjgw> present+ jasonjgw
13:36:55 <Judy> present+ Judy
13:37:02 <janina> action: jasonjgw to annotate the Teuring Test document to indicate where RQTF findings can be applied
13:37:02 <trackbot> Error finding 'jasonjgw'. You can review and register nicknames at <http://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/track/users>.
13:37:05 <scott_h> present+
13:37:55 <janina> zakim, next item
13:37:55 <Zakim> agendum 2. "Web of Things discussion" taken up [from jasonjgw]
13:38:30 <janina> sh: Have a grand focussed around education with pwds re WoT
13:38:42 <janina> sh: Six month project
13:38:53 <janina> sh: Just getting started
13:39:39 <janina> sh: Would like to coordinate research questions with Shadi to be most useful to W3C work
13:40:40 <janina> sh: Would also like to have Shadi's W4A presentation repeated at the Curtin University
13:41:01 <janina> sh: For project participants, but others in comp sci have also indicated interest
13:41:43 <janina> sa: Sounds good, esp the timeline
13:41:52 <janina> sa: What in the meantime?
13:42:09 <janina> sa: Can we validate use cases? Add to them?
13:42:30 <janina> jgw: We should ascertain our thinking is captured
13:43:50 <janina> jgw: Noting this is a relatively unexplored domain still
13:44:11 <janina> sa: Had conversations with Claus -- but would not start up for about a year
13:45:29 <janina> sh: Need my questions developed within the next month in order to get required ethics approval
13:45:53 <janina> sh: I'm the senior research manager, and have an assistant
13:46:42 <janina> sa: Suggesting more interling with WoT WG
13:49:47 <jasonjgw> Janina notes recent attention given to the security and privacy implications of Web of Things/Internet of Things. In particular, there's a problem of access control (e.g., transfer of devices to new owners).
13:50:16 <jasonjgw> Janina notes the difficulty of transferring control, setting permissions.
13:50:42 <janina> sh: Interesting. Might ask considerations of ownership
13:51:28 <jasonjgw> Janina notes the difficulty even for expert users of revoking permissions, and the lack of standards in this area.
13:52:09 <janina> sh: UI for permissions and access control are complex, and need to be though through
13:52:45 <janina> jgw: Your care-givers, for instance
13:53:30 <janina> jgw: This can be difficult to setup properly, and can yield unintended consequences
13:53:47 <Judy> q+
13:53:56 <janina> sh: And maybe the situation that the device is for life
13:54:51 <janina> js: Notes that care-givers can change, so permissions may need revoking and new ones established
13:55:04 <janina> jb: Notes there are frequently multiple care givers
13:56:08 <janina> to\\\\topic: Daltonization and Flash Mitigation in Video
13:56:58 <janina> jb: Discussion came up with EME consideration, but has now moved beyond EME
13:57:28 <janina> jb: Questions around color shifting to support persons with color vision constraints
13:57:56 <janina> jb: Also to support people with rapid flashing constraints
13:58:17 <janina> jb: Want to bring these to RQTF for consideration
13:59:04 <janina> jgw: Would be useful to have questions formulated so we can begin on this
14:00:50 <Judy> s/constraints/constraints; neither of these are standardization-ready and would require research, including regarding what level to pursue solutions (OS/driver, or higher level)
14:01:20 <Judy> Judy will send initial research questions.
14:03:33 <janina> zakim, bye
14:03:33 <Zakim> leaving.  As of this point the attendees have been janina, jasonjgw, Judy, scott_h
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14:03:39 <janina> rrsagent, make minutes
14:03:39 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2017/03/15-rqtf-minutes.html janina