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15:15:36 <trackbot> Meeting: Cognitive Accessibility Task Force Teleconference
15:15:36 <trackbot> Date: 13 March 2017
15:15:36 <Zakim> ok, trackbot
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15:39:42 <Lisa_Seeman_> agenda: this
15:39:44 <Lisa_Seeman_> agenda+  updates , and set call for new issue papers and research
15:39:45 <Lisa_Seeman_> agenda+ Getting feedback
15:39:47 <Lisa_Seeman_> agenda+ high priority SC: sc status: https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/extension/status.html
15:39:48 <Lisa_Seeman_> agenda+  next SC s , and timelines show status table.sc status: https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/extension/status.html,  rewording https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/extension/rewroded%20sc%203.html agenda+ review sc wording to get to pending agenda+  Tables https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/gap-analysis/table.html
15:39:50 <Lisa_Seeman_> instuctions: https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/wiki/SC_Managers_Phase1,
15:39:51 <Lisa_Seeman_> issues: https://github.com/w3c/wcag21/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3ACOGA
15:39:53 <Lisa_Seeman_> pull requests: https://github.com/w3c/wcag21/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3ACOGA
15:39:54 <Lisa_Seeman_> agenda+ What have we missed for issues page
15:39:56 <Lisa_Seeman_> agenda+ be done
16:00:52 <Lisa_Seeman> i think the call is now
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16:02:24 <Jim_S> present+ Jim_S
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16:04:34 <maryjom> present+ MaryJoMueller
16:04:47 <Lisa_Seeman> scribe: Jim_S
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16:05:32 <Lisa_Seeman> zakim, next item
16:05:32 <Zakim> agendum 1. "updates , and set call for new issue papers and research" taken up [from Lisa_Seeman_]
16:06:50 <Jim_S> Lisa: Hopes to publish the 1st working draft for the semantics of personalisation this month
16:07:57 <Jim_S> Lisa: Andy Heath sees overalp between our Working Group and ISO standards
16:08:23 <Jim_S> Mike_Pluke: There are two ISO standards relating to COGA
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16:09:56 <Jim_S> Lisa: compatibility with other standards is a worthy goal
16:10:40 <Lisa_Seeman> present +
16:10:45 <Lisa_Seeman> present+
16:11:00 <Jim_S> No other updates
16:11:01 <kirkwood_> present+
16:11:04 <Lisa_Seeman> zakim, next item
16:11:04 <Zakim> agendum 2. "Getting feedback" taken up [from Lisa_Seeman_]
16:11:26 <Mike_Pluke> present +
16:11:29 <Jan> Jan has joined #coga
16:11:37 <Mike_Pluke> present+
16:11:41 <Lisa_Seeman> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1EVnmFO6l8nAdBs5UiasJnZz3Ri_diKcoz8peoPWTm4Q/edit#
16:11:41 <Jan> present+ jan_mcsorley
16:12:36 <Mike_Pluke> present+ Mike_Pluke
16:12:49 <Jim_S> Lisa: Draft invite e-mail is availabe on Google Docs (link above) for Outreach
16:13:34 <Jim_S> Lisa: Has anyone reached out to dyslexia organisations?
16:14:10 <Jim_S> E.A.: will reach out to British and European Dyslexia Associations
16:14:38 <Jim_S> E.A.: and also the Intrenational Dyslexia Association
16:15:19 <Jim_S> Jan: will reach out to US organisations
16:16:10 <Jim_S> Mike_Pluke: will contact team developing Autism tools
16:16:14 <Pietro> Pietro has joined #coga
16:16:39 <Pietro> Present+ Pietro
16:17:19 <Jim_S> John Kirkwood: will contact medical organisations in USA
16:17:43 <EA> I have just had a reply from on person from BDA who commented about difficulty with Github
16:18:50 <Lisa_Seeman> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1EVnmFO6l8nAdBs5UiasJnZz3Ri_diKcoz8peoPWTm4Q/edit#
16:18:52 <Jim_S> Jim to contact Dementia groups in UK
16:19:51 <Jim_S> Pietro: will contact Autism Europe
16:20:43 <Jim_S> Pietro will also contact national branches where possible
16:21:14 <Jim_S> Lisa: we need user feedback as well as developer feedback
16:21:45 <Pietro> European Disability Forum too
16:21:54 <Lisa_Seeman> q?
16:23:02 <Jim_S> E.A.: reported that users find the process too complex and do not wish to use GitHub
16:23:31 <Jim_S> E.A.: feels that we need to break things down into bite-size chunks
16:24:15 <Pietro> and Inclusion Europe
16:25:44 <Jim_S> Lisa: requests that E.A. forward the user feeedback in question
16:28:57 <Jim_S> Jim_S: suggests that we break the document down into chunks of individual SC
16:32:59 <Jim_S> Lisa: proposes that the SC have a short explaination of why the COGA SC are important in plain language before the SC text
16:34:32 <Jim_S> Lisa will set up Google Doc and write, Jan will edit and E.A. will help with editing if she can (as will Jim_S)
16:34:38 <Lisa_Seeman> action: Jan to write simple version for the wcag draft - all to edit ....
16:34:38 <trackbot> Created ACTION-202 - Write simple version for the wcag draft - all to edit .... [on Jan McSorley - due 2017-03-20].
16:35:07 <Lisa_Seeman> Action: Lisa to make a new document
16:35:08 <trackbot> Created ACTION-203 - Make a new document [on Lisa Seeman-Kestenbaum - due 2017-03-20].
16:37:10 <Jim_S> Lisa: can Pietro provide two symbols to identify the introduction and the SC Text?
16:40:17 <Jim_S> Lisa: Need three sections: Plain Langague Introduction, SC Text and why it is important.
16:40:26 <Lisa_Seeman> Q?
16:40:36 <Lisa_Seeman> zakim, next item
16:40:36 <Zakim> agendum 3. "high priority SC: sc status: https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/extension/status.html" taken up [from Lisa_Seeman_]
16:42:23 <Lisa_Seeman> On coga github: accessible-authentication.html wcag issue 23
16:42:25 <Jim_S> Mike-Pluke will look at providing alternative wording for the Accessible Authentication SC
16:43:00 <Lisa_Seeman> action: mike to sugets how to spit up On coga github: accessible-authentication.html wcag issue 23
16:43:00 <trackbot> Created ACTION-204 - Sugets how to spit up on coga github: accessible-authentication.html wcag issue 23 [on Mike Pluke - due 2017-03-20].
16:43:59 <Jim_S> Clear Controls and Personalisation will be discussed this week on the WCAG call
16:44:22 <Lisa_Seeman> https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/35422/March14SCReviews/
16:44:42 <Jim_S> Lisa: can people complete the survey (above)
16:45:05 <Jan> q+
16:46:25 <Jim_S> MichaelC: Comments on SC are still being made on GitHub
16:47:09 <Jim_S> Lisa: asked which SC are considered high priority
16:48:27 <Lisa_Seeman> https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/extension/status.html
16:48:28 <Jim_S> https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/extension/status.html
16:52:25 <Jim_S> MichaelC is working on normalising the commenting and versioning of the SC for surveys
16:53:02 <Jim_S> Lisa and others: There is no clarity on what we are voting on in the surveys
16:54:58 <Lisa_Seeman> +        <h4>Clear Controls</h4>
16:55:00 <Lisa_Seeman> +        <p class="conformance-level">AA</p>
16:55:01 <Lisa_Seeman> +        <p><strong>Clear controls:</strong> Visual interactive controls are clear or clear controls are <a>easily available</a> through personalization that conforms to all of the following:</p>
16:55:03 <Lisa_Seeman> +        <ul>
16:55:04 <Lisa_Seeman> +            <li>Interactive controls are visually discriminable and have a border around the interactive area of the element with a contrast ratio of at least 4.5:1 with its background, or has fill that provides a contrast ratio of at least 3:1 from the background. It is sufficient for links to be consistently underlined.</li>
16:55:06 <Lisa_Seeman> +            <li>Interactive controls are available in a standard style that indicates how they can be used and what action it will trigger or have clearly labelled instructions that explains their use.</li>
16:55:07 <Lisa_Seeman> +        </ul>
16:55:09 <Lisa_Seeman> +        <p>An exception is available if the style is an essential part of the main function of the site, such as for a game.</p>
16:57:52 <janina> present+
16:59:25 <Jim_S> MichaelC: the survey is not an approval survey it is to generate information on what is required to get the survey ready for review
17:00:04 <Jim_S> E.A.: expressed concern about new comments that have not been addressed
17:01:49 <Jim_S> Jim_S to ask Neil to address comment on SC 36
17:06:53 <Jim_S> rrsagent, stop log
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17:07:21 <Jim_S> rrsagent, create minutes
17:07:21 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2017/03/13-coga-minutes.html Jim_S
17:08:07 <Jim_S> zakim, please part
17:08:07 <Zakim> leaving.  As of this point the attendees have been Jim_S, MaryJoMueller, Lisa_Seeman, kirkwood_, Mike_Pluke, jan_mcsorley, Pietro, <ul>, </ul>, janina
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17:08:17 <Jim_S> rrsagent, please part
17:08:17 <RRSAgent> I see 3 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2017/03/13-coga-actions.rdf :
17:08:17 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Jan to write simple version for the wcag draft - all to edit .... [1]
17:08:17 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2017/03/13-coga-irc#T16-34-38
17:08:17 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Lisa to make a new document [2]
17:08:17 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2017/03/13-coga-irc#T16-35-07
17:08:17 <RRSAgent> ACTION: mike to sugets how to spit up On coga github: accessible-authentication.html wcag issue 23 [3]
17:08:17 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2017/03/13-coga-irc#T16-43-00