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15:46:31 <addison> trackbot, prepare teleconference
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15:46:37 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be 4186
15:46:37 <trackbot> Meeting: Internationalization Working Group Teleconference
15:46:37 <trackbot> Date: 09 March 2017
15:46:37 <Zakim> ok, trackbot
15:46:45 <addison> Agenda: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2017Mar/0004.html
15:46:50 <addison> Chair: Addison Phillips
15:46:54 <addison> ScribeNick: addison
15:47:01 <addison> agenda+ Agenda
15:47:06 <addison> agenda+ Action Items
15:47:11 <addison> agenda+ Info Share
15:47:16 <addison> agenda+ Radar Review
15:47:29 <addison> agenda+ Payment Request API request concerning lang/dir in non-markup contexts
15:47:38 <addison> agenda+ Definition of String in WHATWG
15:47:45 <addison> agenda+ TTML (and other) review
15:48:00 <addison> agenda+ Setting a minimum review period
15:48:15 <addison> agenda+ over and under in Mongolian for TTML
15:48:25 <addison> agenda+ new justification-by-script article
15:48:35 <addison> agenda+ Encoding refresh needed
15:49:05 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2017/03/09-i18n-minutes.html addison
15:49:27 <addison> rrsagent, set logs world
15:58:17 <addison> present+ Addison
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16:00:40 <addison> present+ Richard
16:00:42 <addison> present+ Steve
16:00:50 <addison> agenda?
16:01:28 <addison> agenda+ What Time Is This Meeting At, Spring Edition
16:02:15 <r12a> agenda+ publish the vertical text article
16:03:36 <addison> zakim, take up agendum 1
16:03:36 <Zakim> agendum 1. "Agenda" taken up [from addison]
16:03:57 <addison> agenda?
16:04:10 <addison> zakim, take up agendum 2
16:04:10 <Zakim> agendum 2. "Action Items" taken up [from addison]
16:04:17 <addison> https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/open
16:04:42 <addison> action-553?
16:04:42 <trackbot> action-553 -- Addison Phillips to Work with richard to develop a pros/cons document describing the different bidi-in-json handling proposals -- due 2016-09-29 -- OPEN
16:04:42 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/553
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16:06:24 <addison> action-578?
16:06:24 <trackbot> action-578 -- Richard Ishida to Write to aharon and mati about the whatwg bidi text issue -- due 2016-12-22 -- OPEN
16:06:24 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/578
16:06:33 <addison> close action-578
16:06:33 <trackbot> Closed action-578.
16:07:19 <addison> action-590?
16:07:19 <trackbot> action-590 -- Addison Phillips to Follow up on html issue 343 wording and reopen if necessary -- due 2017-02-09 -- OPEN
16:07:19 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/590
16:07:23 <addison> close action-590
16:07:23 <trackbot> Closed action-590.
16:07:38 <addison> action-591?
16:07:38 <trackbot> action-591 -- Richard Ishida to Re-check letter spacing in css-text issues for closure -- due 2017-02-09 -- OPEN
16:07:38 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/591
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16:08:06 <Klensin> present+ JcK
16:08:43 <addison> action-594?
16:08:43 <trackbot> action-594 -- Addison Phillips to Reply to marcos caceres email and list his question as a topic for next teleconference -- due 2017-03-02 -- OPEN
16:08:43 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/594
16:08:47 <addison> close action-594
16:08:47 <trackbot> Closed action-594.
16:08:55 <addison> zakim, take up agendum 3
16:08:55 <Zakim> agendum 3. "Info Share" taken up [from addison]
16:09:02 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2017/03/09-i18n-minutes.html addison
16:09:17 <addison> jck: IESG signed off on new URN document
16:09:26 <addison> ... shouldn't have any i18n issues of interest to this group
16:09:35 <addison> ... take it off our queue
16:10:05 <r12a> https://www.w3.org/International/layout
16:10:06 <addison> richard: working on the site a bit
16:10:12 <addison> ... one thing I did today-ish
16:10:19 <addison> ... was updated layout and typography page
16:10:26 <addison> ... maybe change title to "requirements"??
16:10:42 <addison> ... includes sections about LREQs, gap analysis docs, etc.
16:10:47 <r12a> https://www.w3.org/International
16:10:48 <addison> ... improved I think
16:10:59 <addison> richard: get help panel split by types of folks
16:11:00 <r12a> https://www.w3.org/International/help#contentauth
16:11:11 <r12a> https://www.w3.org/International/about
16:11:32 <addison> richard: check the contact us part of that
16:11:39 <addison> ... points to home page for detail
16:11:55 <addison> ... no longer has long section on mailing lists
16:11:59 <addison> ... get from WG home pages
16:12:02 <r12a> https://w3c.github.io/i18n-activity/i18n-wg/
16:12:04 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2017/03/09-i18n-minutes.html addison
16:12:14 <addison> richard: WG home page, has general links
16:12:51 <r12a> https://w3c.github.io/i18n-activity/i18n-wg/
16:16:02 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2017/03/09-i18n-minutes.html addison
16:16:24 <addison> richard: type samples repo is now is ready for advertising to others
16:16:39 <r12a> https://github.com/w3c/type-samples
16:16:47 <r12a> https://w3c.github.io/type-samples/
16:16:54 <addison> richard: that's the github and the index
16:17:34 <r12a> http://w3c.github.io/typography/
16:17:35 <addison> richard: did some work on it yesterday
16:17:41 <addison> ... beefed up significantly
16:17:51 <addison> ... added a few extra sections like numbers and text
16:18:00 <addison> ... and (something) style
16:18:07 <addison> ... links to customer information
16:18:10 <addison> ... type samples link
16:18:20 <addison> zakim, take up agendum 4
16:18:20 <Zakim> agendum 4. "Radar Review" taken up [from addison]
16:18:27 <addison> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/projects/1
16:22:42 <addison> http://w3c.github.io/i18n-activity/projects/
16:23:15 <addison> richard: added some stuff to specdev
16:23:20 <addison> ... might want to check
16:23:32 <addison> ... vertical text and ruby and typographic stuff
16:23:53 <addison> ... threw in a few controversial things, added text to mention that
16:24:25 <addison> agenda?
16:24:43 <r12a> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-drafts/projects/1
16:24:57 <addison> richard: put a link to article pipeline, may want to review from time to time
16:25:04 <addison> addison: will add to our agenda
16:25:19 <addison> zakim, take up agendum 12
16:25:19 <Zakim> agendum 12. "What Time Is This Meeting At, Spring Edition" taken up [from addison]
16:28:38 <addison> follow UK time
16:29:42 <addison> action: addison: adjust the agenda to reflect use of UK time for meeting and update links to dateandtime
16:29:42 <trackbot> Created ACTION-596 - Adjust the agenda to reflect use of uk time for meeting and update links to dateandtime [on Addison Phillips - due 2017-03-16].
16:29:51 <addison> agenda?
16:30:19 <addison> zakim, take up agendum 13
16:30:19 <Zakim> agendum 13. "publish the vertical text article" taken up [from r12a]
16:30:38 <r12a> https://w3c.github.io/i18n-drafts/articles/vertical-text.en
16:31:03 <addison> richard: have one remaining comment on way arabic text runs
16:31:08 <addison> ... plan to punt to CSS
16:31:19 <addison> richard: resolve to publish?
16:31:25 <Steve_Atkin> +1
16:31:26 <addison> +1
16:31:27 <Klensin> +1
16:31:29 <r12a> +1
16:31:45 <david> +1
16:31:49 <addison> so resolved
16:32:00 <addison> action: richard: publish vertical text article
16:32:03 <addison> agenda?
16:32:07 <trackbot> Created ACTION-597 - Publish vertical text article [on Richard Ishida - due 2017-03-16].
16:32:50 <addison> zakim, take up agendum 5
16:32:50 <Zakim> agendum 5. "Payment Request API request concerning lang/dir in non-markup contexts" taken up [from addison]
16:33:09 <addison> richard: he's asking if they should have dir properties in json
16:33:29 <addison> ... don't think we've taken a final decision on that
16:33:36 <addison> addison: definitely not, since we're working on that
16:33:43 <addison> richard: link to existing document
16:34:28 <addison> addison: "yes, you need direction, but don't have a finished cookbook yet"
16:34:50 <addison> richard: tend to think separate field is the simpler thing if acceptable
16:35:18 <addison> action: addison: respond to marcos with summary fo current state of bidi-in-json
16:35:21 <trackbot> Created ACTION-598 - Respond to marcos with summary fo current state of bidi-in-json [on Addison Phillips - due 2017-03-16].
16:35:50 <addison> zakim, take up agendum 10
16:35:50 <Zakim> agendum 10. "new justification-by-script article" taken up [from addison]
16:35:59 <addison> richard: take to wide review, fantasai is happy with that
16:36:25 <r12a> https://w3c.github.io/i18n-drafts/articles/typography/justification.en
16:36:53 <addison> any objections to wide review?
16:37:01 <addison> (chair hears none)
16:37:03 <addison> so resolved
16:37:10 <addison> action: richard: publish justification for wide review
16:37:11 <trackbot> Created ACTION-599 - Publish justification for wide review [on Richard Ishida - due 2017-03-16].
16:37:23 <addison> zakim, take up agendum 7
16:37:23 <Zakim> agendum 7. "TTML (and other) review" taken up [from addison]
16:37:43 <addison> http://w3c.github.io/i18n-activity/reviews/
16:38:06 <addison> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/358
16:39:43 <addison> writing mode stuff based on old version of writing-modes
16:40:00 <addison> has sideways-lr and sideways-rl
16:41:47 <addison> rotates the box rather than changing the layout
16:45:07 <addison> make matching css the comment
16:45:08 <addison> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/357
16:46:41 <addison> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/359
16:47:57 <addison> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/356
16:48:21 <addison> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/355
16:49:16 <addison> (wrong link)
16:49:51 <addison> http://w3c.github.io/ttml2/spec/ttml2.html#style-attribute-textCombine
16:53:13 <addison> addison: could be used with upright to make tate-chu-yoko, but you need to rotate the text still?
16:54:15 <addison> richard: vertical text article has an example
16:54:29 <addison> ... in CSS knows that's what you're trying to do
16:54:51 <addison> needs clarification
16:54:53 <addison> https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/354
16:56:19 <addison> https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/issues/275
16:58:06 <addison> agenda?
16:58:36 <addison> zakim, take up agendum 11
16:58:36 <Zakim> agendum 11. "Encoding refresh needed" taken up [from addison]
16:59:17 <addison> action: addison: prepare and submit Encoding refresh
16:59:17 <trackbot> Created ACTION-600 - Prepare and submit encoding refresh [on Addison Phillips - due 2017-03-16].
17:00:01 <addison> richard: generate in bikeshed and submit through echidna
17:00:06 <addison> ... need to look at changes
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17:01:39 <r12a> rrsagent, draft minutes
17:01:39 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2017/03/09-i18n-minutes.html r12a
17:01:41 <addison> rrsagent, make minutes
17:01:41 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2017/03/09-i18n-minutes.html addison
17:01:50 <addison> zakim, bye
17:01:50 <Zakim> leaving.  As of this point the attendees have been Addison, Richard, Steve, JcK
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17:01:59 <addison> rrsagent, make minutes
17:01:59 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2017/03/09-i18n-minutes.html addison
17:02:09 <addison> rrsagent, bye
17:02:09 <RRSAgent> I see 5 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2017/03/09-i18n-actions.rdf :
17:02:09 <RRSAgent> ACTION: addison: adjust the agenda to reflect use of UK time for meeting and update links to dateandtime [1]
17:02:09 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2017/03/09-i18n-irc#T16-29-42
17:02:09 <RRSAgent> ACTION: richard: publish vertical text article [2]
17:02:09 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2017/03/09-i18n-irc#T16-32-00
17:02:09 <RRSAgent> ACTION: addison: respond to marcos with summary fo current state of bidi-in-json [3]
17:02:09 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2017/03/09-i18n-irc#T16-35-18
17:02:09 <RRSAgent> ACTION: richard: publish justification for wide review [4]
17:02:09 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2017/03/09-i18n-irc#T16-37-10
17:02:09 <RRSAgent> ACTION: addison: prepare and submit Encoding refresh [5]
17:02:09 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2017/03/09-i18n-irc#T16-59-17