IRC log of i18n on 2017-03-09
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- trackbot, prepare teleconference
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- Zakim, this will be 4186
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- Meeting: Internationalization Working Group Teleconference
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- Date: 09 March 2017
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- ok, trackbot
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- Agenda: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2017Mar/0004.html
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- Chair: Addison Phillips
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- ScribeNick: addison
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- agenda+ Agenda
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- agenda+ Action Items
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- agenda+ Info Share
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- agenda+ Radar Review
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- agenda+ Payment Request API request concerning lang/dir in non-markup contexts
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- agenda+ Definition of String in WHATWG
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- agenda+ TTML (and other) review
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- agenda+ Setting a minimum review period
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- agenda+ over and under in Mongolian for TTML
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- agenda+ new justification-by-script article
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- agenda+ Encoding refresh needed
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- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2017/03/09-i18n-minutes.html addison
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- rrsagent, set logs world
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- present+ Addison
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- present+ Richard
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- present+ Steve
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- agenda?
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- agenda+ What Time Is This Meeting At, Spring Edition
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- agenda+ publish the vertical text article
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- zakim, take up agendum 1
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- agendum 1. "Agenda" taken up [from addison]
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- agenda?
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- zakim, take up agendum 2
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- agendum 2. "Action Items" taken up [from addison]
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- https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/open
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- action-553?
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- action-553 -- Addison Phillips to Work with richard to develop a pros/cons document describing the different bidi-in-json handling proposals -- due 2016-09-29 -- OPEN
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- http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/553
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- action-578?
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- action-578 -- Richard Ishida to Write to aharon and mati about the whatwg bidi text issue -- due 2016-12-22 -- OPEN
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- http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/578
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- close action-578
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- Closed action-578.
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- action-590?
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- action-590 -- Addison Phillips to Follow up on html issue 343 wording and reopen if necessary -- due 2017-02-09 -- OPEN
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- http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/590
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- close action-590
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- Closed action-590.
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- action-591?
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- action-591 -- Richard Ishida to Re-check letter spacing in css-text issues for closure -- due 2017-02-09 -- OPEN
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- http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/591
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- present+ JcK
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- action-594?
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- action-594 -- Addison Phillips to Reply to marcos caceres email and list his question as a topic for next teleconference -- due 2017-03-02 -- OPEN
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- http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/594
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- close action-594
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- Closed action-594.
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- zakim, take up agendum 3
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- agendum 3. "Info Share" taken up [from addison]
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- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2017/03/09-i18n-minutes.html addison
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- jck: IESG signed off on new URN document
- 16:09:26 [addison]
- ... shouldn't have any i18n issues of interest to this group
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- ... take it off our queue
- 16:10:05 [r12a]
- https://www.w3.org/International/layout
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- richard: working on the site a bit
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- ... one thing I did today-ish
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- ... was updated layout and typography page
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- ... maybe change title to "requirements"??
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- ... includes sections about LREQs, gap analysis docs, etc.
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- https://www.w3.org/International
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- ... improved I think
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- richard: get help panel split by types of folks
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- https://www.w3.org/International/help#contentauth
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- https://www.w3.org/International/about
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- richard: check the contact us part of that
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- ... points to home page for detail
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- ... no longer has long section on mailing lists
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- ... get from WG home pages
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- https://w3c.github.io/i18n-activity/i18n-wg/
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- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2017/03/09-i18n-minutes.html addison
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- richard: WG home page, has general links
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- https://w3c.github.io/i18n-activity/i18n-wg/
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- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2017/03/09-i18n-minutes.html addison
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- richard: type samples repo is now is ready for advertising to others
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- https://github.com/w3c/type-samples
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- https://w3c.github.io/type-samples/
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- richard: that's the github and the index
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- http://w3c.github.io/typography/
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- richard: did some work on it yesterday
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- ... beefed up significantly
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- ... added a few extra sections like numbers and text
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- ... and (something) style
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- ... links to customer information
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- ... type samples link
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- zakim, take up agendum 4
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- agendum 4. "Radar Review" taken up [from addison]
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- https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/projects/1
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- http://w3c.github.io/i18n-activity/projects/
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- richard: added some stuff to specdev
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- ... might want to check
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- ... vertical text and ruby and typographic stuff
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- ... threw in a few controversial things, added text to mention that
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- agenda?
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- https://github.com/w3c/i18n-drafts/projects/1
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- richard: put a link to article pipeline, may want to review from time to time
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- addison: will add to our agenda
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- zakim, take up agendum 12
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- agendum 12. "What Time Is This Meeting At, Spring Edition" taken up [from addison]
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- follow UK time
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- action: addison: adjust the agenda to reflect use of UK time for meeting and update links to dateandtime
- 16:29:42 [trackbot]
- Created ACTION-596 - Adjust the agenda to reflect use of uk time for meeting and update links to dateandtime [on Addison Phillips - due 2017-03-16].
- 16:29:51 [addison]
- agenda?
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- zakim, take up agendum 13
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- agendum 13. "publish the vertical text article" taken up [from r12a]
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- https://w3c.github.io/i18n-drafts/articles/vertical-text.en
- 16:31:03 [addison]
- richard: have one remaining comment on way arabic text runs
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- ... plan to punt to CSS
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- richard: resolve to publish?
- 16:31:25 [Steve_Atkin]
- +1
- 16:31:26 [addison]
- +1
- 16:31:27 [Klensin]
- +1
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- +1
- 16:31:45 [david]
- +1
- 16:31:49 [addison]
- so resolved
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- action: richard: publish vertical text article
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- agenda?
- 16:32:07 [trackbot]
- Created ACTION-597 - Publish vertical text article [on Richard Ishida - due 2017-03-16].
- 16:32:50 [addison]
- zakim, take up agendum 5
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- agendum 5. "Payment Request API request concerning lang/dir in non-markup contexts" taken up [from addison]
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- richard: he's asking if they should have dir properties in json
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- ... don't think we've taken a final decision on that
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- addison: definitely not, since we're working on that
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- richard: link to existing document
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- addison: "yes, you need direction, but don't have a finished cookbook yet"
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- richard: tend to think separate field is the simpler thing if acceptable
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- action: addison: respond to marcos with summary fo current state of bidi-in-json
- 16:35:21 [trackbot]
- Created ACTION-598 - Respond to marcos with summary fo current state of bidi-in-json [on Addison Phillips - due 2017-03-16].
- 16:35:50 [addison]
- zakim, take up agendum 10
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- agendum 10. "new justification-by-script article" taken up [from addison]
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- richard: take to wide review, fantasai is happy with that
- 16:36:25 [r12a]
- https://w3c.github.io/i18n-drafts/articles/typography/justification.en
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- any objections to wide review?
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- (chair hears none)
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- so resolved
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- action: richard: publish justification for wide review
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- Created ACTION-599 - Publish justification for wide review [on Richard Ishida - due 2017-03-16].
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- zakim, take up agendum 7
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- agendum 7. "TTML (and other) review" taken up [from addison]
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- http://w3c.github.io/i18n-activity/reviews/
- 16:38:06 [addison]
- https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/358
- 16:39:43 [addison]
- writing mode stuff based on old version of writing-modes
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- has sideways-lr and sideways-rl
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- rotates the box rather than changing the layout
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- make matching css the comment
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- https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/357
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- https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/359
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- https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/356
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- https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/355
- 16:49:16 [addison]
- (wrong link)
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- http://w3c.github.io/ttml2/spec/ttml2.html#style-attribute-textCombine
- 16:53:13 [addison]
- addison: could be used with upright to make tate-chu-yoko, but you need to rotate the text still?
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- richard: vertical text article has an example
- 16:54:29 [addison]
- ... in CSS knows that's what you're trying to do
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- needs clarification
- 16:54:53 [addison]
- https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/354
- 16:56:19 [addison]
- https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/issues/275
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- agenda?
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- zakim, take up agendum 11
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- agendum 11. "Encoding refresh needed" taken up [from addison]
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- action: addison: prepare and submit Encoding refresh
- 16:59:17 [trackbot]
- Created ACTION-600 - Prepare and submit encoding refresh [on Addison Phillips - due 2017-03-16].
- 17:00:01 [addison]
- richard: generate in bikeshed and submit through echidna
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- ... need to look at changes
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- rrsagent, draft minutes
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- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2017/03/09-i18n-minutes.html r12a
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- rrsagent, make minutes
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- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2017/03/09-i18n-minutes.html addison
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- zakim, bye
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- leaving. As of this point the attendees have been Addison, Richard, Steve, JcK
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- rrsagent, make minutes
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- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2017/03/09-i18n-minutes.html addison
- 17:02:09 [addison]
- rrsagent, bye
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- I see 5 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2017/03/09-i18n-actions.rdf :
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- ACTION: addison: adjust the agenda to reflect use of UK time for meeting and update links to dateandtime [1]
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- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2017/03/09-i18n-irc#T16-29-42
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- ACTION: richard: publish vertical text article [2]
- 17:02:09 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2017/03/09-i18n-irc#T16-32-00
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- ACTION: addison: respond to marcos with summary fo current state of bidi-in-json [3]
- 17:02:09 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2017/03/09-i18n-irc#T16-35-18
- 17:02:09 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: richard: publish justification for wide review [4]
- 17:02:09 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2017/03/09-i18n-irc#T16-37-10
- 17:02:09 [RRSAgent]
- ACTION: addison: prepare and submit Encoding refresh [5]
- 17:02:09 [RRSAgent]
- recorded in http://www.w3.org/2017/03/09-i18n-irc#T16-59-17