14:56:37 RRSAgent has joined #wcag-act 14:56:37 logging to http://www.w3.org/2017/03/08-wcag-act-irc 14:56:39 RRSAgent, make logs public 14:56:39 Zakim has joined #wcag-act 14:56:41 Zakim, this will be 14:56:41 I don't understand 'this will be', trackbot 14:56:42 Meeting: Accessibility Conformance Testing Teleconference 14:56:42 Date: 08 March 2017 14:57:46 maryjom has joined #wcag-act 14:58:19 agenda+ Review prior 2 meetings' minutes https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/task-forces/conformance-testing/wiki/Meeting_Minutes 14:58:28 agenda+ Review pull request 60 - group edits from CSUN meeting https://github.com/w3c/wcag-act/pull/60/files?diff=split 14:58:49 agenda+ Review pull request 61 https://github.com/w3c/wcag-act/pull/61/files?diff=split 14:58:55 agenda+ Review pull request 62 https://github.com/w3c/wcag-act/pull/62/files?diff=split 14:59:10 agenda+ Open Issues in Github https://github.com/w3c/wcag-act/issues 14:59:22 agenda+ Develop questions for feedback we want on the ACT Framework review 14:59:29 agenda+ Length of time for review (typically 4 weeks) 14:59:44 agenda+ Plan for draft review & mailing list to advertise (be ready for discussion next week) 14:59:49 agenda? 15:05:19 MoeKraft has joined #wcag-act 15:07:19 https://github.com/tabatkins/bikeshed/tree/master/bikeshed/boilerplate 15:08:45 https://github.com/tabatkins/bikeshed/tree/master/bikeshed/boilerplate/webauthn 15:15:07 Charu has joined #wcag-act 15:19:36 Typically something like background, border, color, font, or text-decoration. 15:20:32 Scribe: 15:20:51 scribe: charu 15:21:29 present+ MaryJoMueller 15:21:42 present+ MoeKraft 15:21:43 present+ Wilco 15:21:53 zakim, next item 15:21:53 agendum 1. "Review prior 2 meetings' minutes https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/task-forces/conformance-testing/wiki/Meeting_Minutes" taken up [from Wilco] 15:22:40 Wilco: no comments on previous meeting, can close 15:22:56 https://github.com/w3c/wcag-act/pull/60/files?diff=split 15:23:38 next agenda 15:24:24 Zakim, next item 15:24:24 agendum 2. "Review pull request 60 - group edits from CSUN meeting https://github.com/w3c/wcag-act/pull/60/files?diff=split" taken up [from Wilco] 15:24:47 https://github.com/w3c/wcag-act/pull/61 15:24:48 Wilco: no omments on 60 15:24:57 Zakim, next item 15:24:57 agendum 2 was just opened, Charu 15:25:29 Wilco: SHadi you want to speak to it? 15:25:43 https://www.w3.org/TR/WCAG21/ 15:26:10 Shadi: That is the first working public draft, we want ours to look like it 15:26:54 Shadi: Ideally change the paragraph to talk to the audiance 15:27:59 Shadi: Encourage feedback through Github, we have a more technocal audiance 15:28:31 Moe: How in detail should be the introduction 15:30:07 Shadi: We don't need much details, WCAG is high level and has more details, we can have the inline comments 15:31:00 Moe: to summarize we need to talk about the status of the document 15:31:42 Shadi: yes about the status, and editor notes 15:32:26 Wilco: What does the document provide and what kind of feedback we want 15:33:43 Shadi: This documents provide first full draft of framework with links to some examples and rules in the auto-wcag 15:34:06 Shadi: what are the particular highlights of this draft 15:34:21 Wilco: Cover all the sections 15:34:50 ACT Framework 1.0 is a complete draft, addressing all of the topics the ACT Taskforce believes is important to cover when writing rules. 15:35:02 Shadi: ask if there are any aspect that are left out, you are describing the status and not the oontent 15:35:16 Should we say is the first complete draft? 15:35:38 https://auto-wcag.github.io/auto-wcag/ 15:35:50 Wilco: you suggesting a link to the auto-wcag 15:36:53 Shadi: this framework is based on the rules developed by auto-wcag community group, which can be a link 15:36:54 ACT Framework 1.0 is a complete draft, addressing all of the topics the ACT Taskforce believes are important to cover when writing rules. The ACT Framework is based on rules developed by the [Auto-WCAG Community Group](https://auto-wcag.github.io/auto-wcag/). 15:37:29 +1 15:37:37 +1 15:37:40 +1 15:37:41 +1 15:37:50 And then we need: For this publication, the Accessibility Conformance Testing Task Force particularly seeks feedback on the following questions: 15:39:21 https://w3c.github.io/wcag-act/act-fr-reqs.html 15:40:13 Wilco: Moe can add the requirements document back in? 15:40:22 Moe: yes i can 15:40:33 Wilco: on the Questions 15:40:49 - Does the ACT Framework address all the topics reviewers feel are critical to rule design? 15:42:00 - The ACT Framework is proposing dealing with accessibility support as an optional component, using metadata. Do reviewers feel this approach is sufficient or overcomplicated in addressing their accessibility support needs? 15:42:33 Wilco: what do folks feel about the questions? 15:43:21 suggestion: Does the ACT Framework address all the topics that are critical to rule design? 15:43:45 +1 to Shadi's suggestion 15:44:46 +1 to Shadi's suggestion 15:44:55 suggestion: Does the _section on accessibility support_ adequately address the topic? 15:45:28 https://w3c.github.io/wcag-act/act-framework.html#structure-acc-supp 15:46:11 Shadi: my suggestion is to be more specific in the topic and link to it 15:46:19 - Does the ACT Framework address all the topics that are critical to rule design? - Does the [section on accessibility support](#structure-acc-supp) adequately address the topic? 15:46:24 Wilco: thats fine 15:47:35 q+ to ask about transposition of own rules to the framework format 15:48:28 Charu: mention benchmarking, is it sufficient 15:48:40 Shadi: yes that is important 15:49:22 Wilco: yes lets add that 15:51:13 Shadi: ask it differently, 15:51:44 suggestion: Are there improvements to better support developers of test rules to adopt this framework? 15:52:21 suggestion: Are there improvements to better support developers of test rules to transpose their rules and adopt this framework? 15:53:24 Wilco: anything else? do we want to ask a general question if this would benefit their approach to testing? 15:54:02 Shadi: what if someone says no 15:54:19 Wilco: we will not make it yes or no 15:55:14 Shadi: i think we have enough questions 15:55:28 Wilco: yes lets go with this 4 15:56:01 Moe: how are we asking for feedback, email or comments on Github 15:56:41 Moe: There was a discussion on using Github and chanllenges in using the tools 15:57:49 Shadi: we will go with WCAG, encourage to use Github and if someone wants in email then we will provide that 15:58:38 Wilco: We have lot to do, can folks stick around for another 30 minutes? 15:58:52 Moe, Charu and Shadi cannot 16:00:39 Shadi: here is a suggestion, are you able to generate an editor's draft with the edits you have, rforget my pull request, and send out the survey 16:01:13 Mary Jo: do we have the questions for the Ag Wag survey? 16:01:32 Wilco: no, let you and me stick around 16:02:43 Shadi: my concern we do not have enough people on the call and not everyone has responded to the survey 16:03:06 got to drop. I'm fine with call for consensus 16:03:10 Mary Jo: Do we need the call for consus through email 16:03:26 Wilco: yes lets do that 16:05:28 https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/93339/ACTTF6March2017/results 16:07:06 https://github.com/w3c/wcag-act/pull/63/files 16:24:15 Determining if a web page is accessible depends partly on the assistive technologies and user agents that are used by the visitors to access it. 16:53:04 qhttps://github.com/w3c/wcag-act/blob/fpwd-update/act-framework.bs 16:54:07 https://github.com/w3c/wcag-act/pull/63/files 17:04:30 trackbot, end meeting 17:04:30 Zakim, list attendees 17:04:30 As of this point the attendees have been MaryJoMueller, MoeKraft, Wilco 17:04:38 RRSAgent, please draft minutes 17:04:38 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2017/03/08-wcag-act-minutes.html trackbot 17:04:39 RRSAgent, bye 17:04:39 I see no action items