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13:55:34 <trackbot> Meeting: XForms Users Community Group Teleconference
13:55:34 <trackbot> Date: 22 February 2017
13:55:52 <Steven> Agenda: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2017Feb/0027
13:56:03 <Steven> Steven has changed the topic to: Agenda: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2017Feb/0027
13:56:09 <Steven> \Chair: Steve
13:56:13 <Steven> Regrets: Alain
13:56:18 <Steven> Chair: Steven
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14:01:58 <Steven> Present: Erik, Philip, Steven
14:02:11 <Steven> Topic: References and dependencies/Dynamic dependencies
14:02:11 <Steven> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2017Feb/0023.html
14:03:08 <Steven> Steven: I've done some rewriting, that I would be pleased if you would review this week, and give me any feedback you might have.
14:03:33 <Steven> Topic: Serialization as multipart/related
14:03:33 <Steven> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2017Feb/0022.html
14:06:53 <Steven> Steven: I'm still not crystallised on this, but it seems to me that at the moment you click on "upload" to populate the instance, it is then that the system knows about the mediatype, and we should give the oportunity to supply a reference to a place where the mediiatype could be stored.
14:07:44 <Steven> Erik: It shouldn't be compulsory
14:08:02 <Steven> Steven: Indeed, but it needn't be
14:08:49 <Steven> Erik: There are two levels of problems
14:09:03 <Steven> ... 1 it doesn't say how it works - magic
14:09:57 <Steven> ... 2 If you say "be aware that this information is needed and should be stoerd" it is not magic anymore, but out of band
14:10:08 <Steven> s/stoerd/stored/
14:10:31 <Steven> Erik: MIPs for instance, where don't say where they are to be stored.
14:10:35 <Steven> ... same issue
14:11:06 <Steven> ... so I don't see it as a big problem, as long as we do say *something*.
14:12:15 <Steven> Steven: I would like it to be explicit if at all possible, sored somewhere where you can get to it, since that gives you more control.
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14:12:36 <Steven> s/sored/stored/
14:13:09 <Steven> Erik: Allowing "parts" of submission would allow something like this, which was an earlier suggestion
14:13:31 <Steven> ... a fully explicit way
14:15:56 <Steven> Erik: In our implementation we hae some events related to upload
14:16:02 <Steven> s/hae/have/
14:16:05 <ebruchez> https://doc.orbeon.com/xforms/events-extensions-events.html#upload-control-events
14:16:27 <Steven> Steven: I'll need to study those
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14:18:44 <Steven> Topic: output to the user
14:18:44 <Steven> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-xformsusers/2017Feb/0026.html
14:18:58 <Steven> Steven: I sent this out too late today, but let's talk about it next week.
14:19:13 <Steven> ... about unifying communications with the form user.
14:19:23 <Steven> Topic: AOB
14:19:32 <Steven> [None]
14:19:37 <Steven> [ADJOURN]
14:20:11 <Steven> rssagent, make minutes
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14:20:24 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2017/02/22-forms-minutes.html Steven
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