IRC log of aria-apg on 2017-02-06
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- 17:59:45 [RRSAgent]
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- logging to http://www.w3.org/2017/02/06-aria-apg-irc
- 17:59:56 [jamesn]
- agenda?
- 18:00:03 [jamesn]
- zakim, clear agenda
- 18:00:03 [Zakim]
- agenda cleared
- 18:00:22 [jamesn]
- Agenda+ Around the table - quick updates on current milestone work:
- 18:00:23 [annabbott]
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- 18:00:32 [jamesn]
- Agenda+ Issue 248: Template pages use a div where they should use `pre` https://github.com/w3c/aria-practices/issues/248
- 18:00:42 [jamesn]
- Agenda+ Issue 268: Editorial consistency question:
- 18:00:48 [jamesn]
- Agenda+ Final review of issue 144: Review editor menubar example (menubar-2.html)
- 18:00:54 [jamesn]
- Agenda+ Issue 210: Review accordion example https://github.com/w3c/aria-practices/issues/210
- 18:00:59 [jamesn]
- Agenda+ Issue 264: Review long description disclosure example
- 18:01:07 [jamesn]
- Agenda+ Issue 265: Review FAQ disclosure example
- 18:03:35 [annabbott]
- present+ AnnAbbott
- 18:03:54 [jamesn]
- present+ JamesNurthen
- 18:03:59 [jamesn]
- agenda?
- 18:04:04 [jamesn]
- Meeting: ARIA APG TF
- 18:04:18 [annabbott]
- present+ MattKing
- 18:04:26 [sirib]
- present+ Shirisha Balusani
- 18:04:45 [jemma]
- jemma has joined #aria-apg
- 18:05:08 [jamesn]
- rrsagent, make log world
- 18:05:35 [jemma]
- present+ JaeunJemmaKu
- 18:05:49 [jemma]
- scribe:JaEunJemmaKu
- 18:06:09 [jemma]
- agenda?
- 18:06:52 [annabbott]
- present+ Bryan Garaventa
- 18:07:19 [jemma]
- next item
- 18:07:38 [MichielBijl]
- present+
- 18:08:10 [mck]
- https://github.com/w3c/aria-practices/issues/228
- 18:08:48 [jemma]
- jon worked on this.
- 18:09:15 [jemma]
- mck: one comment about context menu
- 18:10:11 [jemma]
- mck: I would like to solicite context menu from the group
- 18:11:19 [jemma]
- mb: I think context menu only works on ff
- 18:12:06 [jemma]
- s/context menu/ context menu feedback
- 18:12:44 [jemma]
- Ann: we need to make that, context menu, optional.
- 18:13:43 [jemma]
- brian: context menu through javascript window?
- 18:14:16 [jemma]
- mck: we may want to open a separate issue for this.
- 18:14:44 [jemma]
- mck: I will take care of this after the meeting.
- 18:16:57 [jemma]
- mck: issue 183 is done?
- 18:17:07 [jongund]
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- 18:17:23 [jemma]
- mb: I am done
- 18:18:02 [jemma]
- ann: can we assign the reviewer?
- 18:18:09 [jemma]
- mck: I will do that after the meeting
- 18:19:21 [MichielBijl]
- https://github.com/w3c/aria-practices/issues/187
- 18:19:28 [MichielBijl]
- https://github.com/w3c/aria-practices/pull/266
- 18:19:51 [jongund]
- present+ jongund
- 18:20:52 [MichielBijl]
- I have updated issue 187 to have a checkbox for the separators.
- 18:21:32 [jemma]
- mck: do we need further discussion on content info?
- 18:21:38 [annabbott]
- https://github.com/w3c/aria-practices/issues/249
- 18:22:05 [jemma]
- mck: anything decorative should be silent
- 18:22:56 [jemma]
- jongund: developers may not think about aria property like we do.
- 18:24:18 [jemma]
- brian: developers use bg image or css content but it is not a deal breaker.
- 18:25:30 [jemma]
- jongund: I would like to suggest that we may want to add info for these different techniques to show different states.
- 18:26:14 [jemma]
- jongund: there is separate issue for bg image - color contrast issue.
- 18:27:24 [jamesn]
- does this work - https://www.w3.org/TR/css-content-3/#alt
- 18:27:31 [jemma]
- mck: the best practices are 1) content css property and 2) inline style image
- 18:28:01 [jemma]
- james: text alternative for content image is working?
- 18:28:18 [jemma]
- michiel: it is not implemented any where yet
- 18:29:29 [jemma]
- brian: one way it can be done is using span tag with aria- hidden true and add css style
- 18:29:37 [jemma]
- mck: we dont
- 18:29:50 [MichielBijl]
- https://rawgit.com/MichielBijl/font-awesome/master/tests/index.html
- 18:30:07 [jemma]
- mck: we don't know yet about that technique.
- 18:30:20 [jemma]
- jongund: then what should be done to finish the example?
- 18:31:38 [jemma]
- bijl: here is aria-hidden example with font awesome
- 18:32:18 [jemma]
- https://rawgit.com/MichielBijl/font-awesome/master/tests/index.html
- 18:33:02 [jemma]
- mck: our discussion regarding this landed on 1) content css property 2) aria -hidden
- 18:36:52 [jemma]
- mck: I will create the issue for this.
- 18:37:40 [mck]
- https://github.com/w3c/aria-practices/issues/274
- 18:39:08 [jemma]
- jongundL it seems all the example with bg image to indicate state should be changed with css content property
- 18:39:15 [jemma]
- james: yes
- 18:39:21 [jemma]
- mck: yes
- 18:43:34 [jemma]
- jongund: I would like to put all different techniques into a table with advantage vs disadvantages
- 18:44:07 [jemma]
- +1 for Jon's suggestion
- 18:45:27 [jemma]
- brian: there is another technique using pseudo Classes to update states.
- 18:45:50 [jemma]
- next item
- 18:47:17 [jemma]
- mck: michiel suggested use <pre> in html source code for APG example page
- 18:47:51 [jemma]
- michiel: browser issues
- 18:48:22 [jemma]
- mck: can you fix example.js, Michiel?
- 18:48:28 [jemma]
- mb: yes
- 18:49:06 [jemma]
- next item
- 18:50:16 [jemma]
- mck: in the menu pattern, see the potential confusion 'pop up' vs 'submenu'
- 18:50:49 [jongund]
- JG: I think we should be consistent
- 18:51:02 [jemma]
- brian: we should use the word 'submenu' if it is used for menu
- 18:51:33 [jemma]
- mck: good point, brian - I did not think about pop up widget.
- 18:51:57 [jemma]
- mck: so I will make it consistent to use "submenu"
- 18:51:59 [jemma]
- next item
- 18:52:21 [mck]
- http://w3c.github.io/aria-practices/examples/menubar/menubar-2/menubar-2.html
- 18:54:03 [jongund]
- https://github.com/w3c/aria-practices/issues/144
- 18:54:23 [jemma]
- agenda 4
- 18:54:25 [mck]
- https://github.com/w3c/aria-practices/issues/144
- 18:54:47 [jemma]
- zakim, take up agenda 4
- 18:54:47 [Zakim]
- agendum 4. "Final review of issue 144: Review editor menubar example (menubar-2.html)" taken up [from jamesn]
- 18:54:56 [mck]
- https://github.com/w3c/aria-practices/issues/144
- 19:00:34 [sirib]
- http://w3c.github.io/aria-practices/#menu
- 19:01:15 [jemma]
- next item
- 19:02:13 [jemma]
- rrsagent, make minutes
- 19:02:13 [RRSAgent]
- I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2017/02/06-aria-apg-minutes.html jemma
- 19:02:32 [jemma]
- make log public
- 19:02:41 [mck]
- https://github.com/orgs/w3c/teams/aria-contributors
- 19:20:32 [mck]
- Ann, webex cutt me off
- 19:20:39 [annabbott]
- me too
- 19:21:12 [annabbott]
- I didn't have much else to say - just wanted to share that with you...