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13:09:32 <mkovatsc> https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/IG_WebConf#Agenda_of_next_WoT_IG_WebConf:_25_January_2017
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13:10:14 <kaz> scribenick: mjkoster
13:10:14 <mkovatsc> https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/IG_WebConf#Agenda_of_next_WoT_IG_WebConf:_25_January_2017
13:10:24 <mkovatsc> present +Matthias_Kovatsch
13:10:41 <kaz> Agenda: https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/IG_WebConf#Agenda_of_next_WoT_IG_WebConf:_25_January_2017
13:10:44 <sebastian> present+ Sebastian_Kaebisch
13:11:02 <mkovatsc> http://doodle.com/poll/m3pxukezic7itd7e
13:11:03 <kaz> present+ Takeshi_Yamada
13:11:22 <mjkoster> mkovatsc: Dusseldorf F2F link for doodle poll
13:11:23 <kaz> s|http:|-> http:|
13:11:42 <dsr> Draft charter https://github.com/w3c/wot/blob/master/TF-LD_charter.md
13:11:47 <mjkoster> Dave: Semantic TF
13:12:01 <mjkoster> Linked Data and Semantic Interoperability
13:12:06 <kaz> s|7e|7e Doodle for the F2F in Germany|
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13:12:47 <kaz> rrsagent, make log public
13:12:52 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
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13:12:58 <mkovatsc> q?
13:13:10 <mjkoster> dave: explains the charter
13:13:23 <kaz> Chair: Matthias, Yongjing
13:13:25 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
13:13:25 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2017/01/25-wot-minutes.html kaz
13:14:04 <mjkoster> dave: where should the documents go?
13:14:20 <mkovatsc> q?
13:14:26 <mjkoster> mkovatsc: create a new area in github
13:15:07 <kaz> i|Doodle|topic: Dusseldolf F2F date|
13:15:31 <kaz> i|Draft charter|topic: Semantic TF proposal|
13:15:42 <mjkoster> mkovatsc: F2F: please register and make invitations to colleagues
13:15:46 <kaz> -> https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/1/WoTF2F201602/results
13:16:04 <mjkoster> mkovatsc: approximately 30 registered
13:16:13 <kaz> i|mkovatsc:|topic: Santa Clara F2F|
13:16:18 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
13:16:18 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2017/01/25-wot-minutes.html kaz
13:16:35 <kaz> s|results|results Santa Clara F2F registration results|
13:16:36 <mjkoster> mkovatsc: looking for more participants from the area
13:16:37 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
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13:16:39 <yongjing> q+
13:16:50 <mjkoster> mkovatsc: WG-IG split questions came up
13:17:04 <kaz> Meeting: WoT IG/WG
13:17:07 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
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13:17:32 <mjkoster> mkovatsc: IG will be the main thread, last day will be for planning the transfer and operational split
13:18:07 <mkovatsc> q?
13:18:21 <kaz> -> https://www.w3.org/2016/12/wot-wg-2016.html#deliverables WG deliverables
13:18:24 <mjkoster> mkovatsc: please volunteer also
13:18:47 <kaz> s/volunteer/volunteer for Editors/
13:19:55 <kaz> present+ Katsuyoshi_Naka, Ryuichi_Matsukura
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13:22:13 <mjkoster> mkovatsc: items for breakouts - REST API vs. program API
13:23:03 <kaz> -> https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/F2F_meeting,_February_2017,_USA,_Santa_Clara#Agenda Santa Clara F2F agenda proposal
13:23:34 <mjkoster> dave:  metadata requirements for different platforms to decouple applications from platforms
13:23:48 <mjkoster> dave: relates to bindings and templates
13:23:59 <mkovatsc> q?
13:24:09 <kaz> ack y
13:24:25 <mjkoster> mkovatsc: linking, for example a collection linking a room to its devices
13:24:47 <mkovatsc> ack yongjing
13:25:01 <mjkoster> mkoster: will take that subject of links and collections
13:25:35 <mkovatsc> https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/F2F_meeting,_February_2017,_USA,_Santa_Clara#Input_Breakout_Topics
13:25:45 <mjkoster> mkovatsc: moderators for topics above look at the link
13:26:02 <kaz> s|https|-> https|
13:26:22 <kaz> s|Topics|Topics Breakout Topic proposals|
13:26:24 <mkovatsc> q?
13:26:25 <mjkoster> mkovatsc: moderators contact the people involved to get questions and discussion ahead of time
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13:29:19 <mjkoster> mkovatsc: topic: plugfest
13:29:35 <mjkoster> mkovatsc: table is rough and missing some entries
13:29:38 <mkovatsc> https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/F2F_meeting,_February_2017,_USA,_Santa_Clara#Participation
13:29:51 <kaz> q+
13:30:07 <mjkoster> mkovatsc: please complete the table
13:30:30 <kaz> s|https|-> https|
13:30:31 <mjkoster> mkovatsc: plugfest will go Monday through Tuesday morning
13:30:48 <kaz> s|Participation|Participation PlugFest Participation|
13:31:18 <mkovatsc> q?
13:31:23 <mjkoster> mkovatsc: keep the testing methodology to evaluate and record items found
13:31:43 <kaz> ack k
13:31:48 <mjkoster> kaz: asked Zoltan to clarify Intel entry
13:32:06 <mjkoster> mkovatsc: any more questions?
13:32:55 <mjkoster> kaz: where is the link to the table
13:33:03 <mkovatsc> https://github.com/w3c/wot/tree/master/plugfest/2016-beijing
13:33:09 <mjkoster> sebastian: the Beijing folder has test cases
13:33:56 <mjkoster> mkovatsc: should read and write properties and invoke actions for coverage
13:34:03 <katsu> q+
13:34:15 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot/blob/master/plugfest/2016-beijing/TestCaseCoverage.xlsx Test Case Coverage table
13:35:05 <mjkoster> sebastial: implementers should discover and interact with things using these test cases, record pass/fail results and note problems
13:35:33 <mjkoster> s/sebastial/sebastian/
13:36:13 <mjkoster> mkovatsc: will need to determine if results may be publicly shared based on participants needs
13:36:41 <kaz> [ PlugFest template link was broken. so I've just fixed it. ]
13:36:54 <mjkoster> katsu: how can we sunchronize time zones with Osaka?
13:37:27 <kaz> 7 hours
13:37:57 <kaz> 9am US Pacific is 2am+1d in Japan
13:37:59 <mjkoster> mkovatsc: 7 hours difference (17 hours agead) will need to choose morning or afternoon, which is better?
13:38:07 <kaz> s/agead/ahead/
13:38:53 <mjkoster> mkovatsc: tentatively plan for afternoon
13:39:13 <mjkoster> topic: TD update
13:39:14 <mkovatsc> q?
13:39:21 <mkovatsc> ack katsu
13:39:32 <kaz> -> https://www.w3.org/2017/01/25-wot-td-minutes.html TD minutes (draft)
13:39:42 <mjkoster> sebastian: Dave gave overview of the work described in the email from last week
13:39:58 <mjkoster> sebastian: would be interesting to see the use cases
13:40:21 <mjkoster> sebastian: overview of open issues with TD
13:40:39 <mjkoster> sebastian: need to get consensus on issues to close
13:40:53 <mkovatsc> q?
13:42:12 <mjkoster> mkovatsc: some question about TD deliverables, there should be one deliverable from TD
13:42:30 <kaz> i|katsu:|[ also added the GitHub resources from Beijing f2f including the Test Coverage Table as well to the f2f wiki ]
13:42:43 <mjkoster> mkovatsc: scripting TF
13:42:59 <kaz> -> https://www.w3.org/2017/01/23-wot-minutes.html Scripting minutes
13:43:11 <mjkoster> johannes: sent email with conclusions from the last call
13:44:00 <kaz> -> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wot-ig/2017Jan/0014.html Scripting call summary
13:44:02 <mjkoster> johanned: would like to have a workshop and take a larger chunk of time to go through the current scripting API
13:44:13 <mjkoster> s/johanned/johannes
13:44:37 <mjkoster> johannes: discussing split of work between IG and WG
13:45:15 <mkovatsc> q?
13:45:24 <mjkoster> johannes: discussion of markdown document to collect all of the open questions and consolidate
13:46:13 <mjkoster> johannes: current API doesn't allow working with the semantic type, a new parameter was added to handle this
13:46:33 <mjkoster> johannes: there is an open PR
13:46:49 <mjkoster> mkovatsc: is there consensus to adopt this?
13:47:30 <mjkoster> johannes: would like to wait for feedback  before adopting
13:47:45 <mjkoster> mkovatsc: will merge and add a note
13:48:01 <mjkoster> (no objections)
13:48:21 <mkovatsc> q?
13:48:38 <mjkoster> mkovatsc: topic communications TF
13:48:49 <mjkoster> kaz: no update
13:49:02 <mjkoster> mkovatsc: AOB?
13:49:04 <mkovatsc> q?
13:49:58 <mjkoster> sebastian: visa still in progress, may need to participate remotely
13:50:10 <mjkoster> mkovatsc: adjourned
13:50:23 <kaz> [ adjourned ]
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13:50:44 <mkovatsc> thanks for scribing, Michael!
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