IRC log of tt on 2017-01-19

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Meeting: Timed Text Working Group Teleconference
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Date: 19 January 2017
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Present: Nigel, Glenn
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scribe: Nigel
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Chair: Nigel
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https://www.w3.org/TR/CSS22/visudet.html#inline-non-replaced
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Present+ Thierry
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Topic: This Meeting
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nigel: Apologies, after our discussion on Friday last week I moved the meeting an hour later
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.. as discussed, however I clearly did not make this obvious enough in the agenda, and
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.. some folk joined at the (old) time. I understand there was some useful discussion.
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Thierry: I explained that we have discovered that we can publish a new FPWD using the same short name,
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.. then we would go for a Wide Review, then CR, then have an implementation suite for the
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.. two new features, along the regular Rec track process.
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s/I ex/Regarding IMSC1.1, I ex
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Thierry: So the good news is that we can publish a FPWD with the same short name.
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.. Pierre has provided a draft with the additional insertion of those two features, so I asked
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.. him to make it clear in the SOTD or in the Introduction that the difference between that spec
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.. and the former Rec are those two optional new features.
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.. And then Pierre would like to publish this as soon as possible, so he was thinking about
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.. next week or the week following. If we want to do that we need to have WG agreement
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.. for publication.
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Nigel: Let's short-cut that slightly - I'll record the Proposal in the minutes here now:
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PROPOSAL: Publish a FPWD of the updated IMSC 1 version under the short name ttml-imsc1
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Nigel: The group should review the latest ED so that we can come to a resolution on this as soon as possible.
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Nigel: The nature of this is that the FPWD already could be claimed to meet CR requirements
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.. since the changes are directly imposed from liaison input. However I would suggest a short Wide Review period.
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Thierry: I would make the FPWD separate from the CR so that there is time to arrange the
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.. transition call. The real concern is to publish something soon.
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Nigel: Yes, I support that.
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.. I see from recent emails that Pierre has already been working on issues and a pull request.
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-> https://github.com/w3c/imsc/pull/202
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Nigel: I also put a note on the agenda that we should focus on those semantics that affect
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.. backgrounds on span.
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Glenn: I plan to propose some spec text immediately after completing the pull request I
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.. am working on now, which is to address https://github.com/w3c/ttml2/issues/232
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.. which concerns applying border and padding to images, including background images.
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Nigel: While we're on TTML2, I'd like to call up my action:
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action-492?
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action-492 -- Thierry Michel to Publish the updated ttml profile registry at https://w3c.github.io/tt-profile-registry/ by 2017-01-19 -- due 2017-01-19 -- PENDINGREVIEW
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http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/492
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Nigel: I went through all the TTML1 issues we agreed last week and marked up the equivalent
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.. TTML2 issues as discussed and agreed. There weren't very many, since some do not seem
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.. to have equivalent issues. I'm not sure if they should, or if the same problems no longer
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.. exist in TTML2.
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Glenn: I plan to go through all of the TTML1 issues and double check against TTML2, so I will catch those.
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close action-492
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Closed action-492.
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Nigel: Thank you!
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Topic: Profiles Registry
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action-494?
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action-494 -- Nigel Megitt to Mark the ttml2 issues as discussed and agreed where we've discussed and agreed their equivalent ttml1 issues. -- due 2017-01-20 -- PENDINGREVIEW
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http://www.w3.org/AudioVideo/TT/tracker/actions/494
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close action-494
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Closed action-494.
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Nigel: Thank you Thierry for publishing the updated profiles registry.
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Thierry: Yes, I did publish it yesterday, which the auto-publisher permitted despite a broken link,
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.. and today Mike told me that DECE has fixed the link with a redirect so now the link is not broken.
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Nigel: Great, thanks both!
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Nigel: Thanks both, and everyone who joined early, apologies again. I'll adjourn now - next week I'll keep it at 1100 Boston time (primary), 1600 UK time, 1700 Europe time, and whatever time that is in all the other time zones...
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.. [adjourns meeting]
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s|Thierry Michel to Publish the updated ttml profile registry at https://w3c.github.io/tt-profile-registry/ by 2017-01-19 -- due 2017-01-19 -- PENDINGREVIEW|Nigel Megitt to Mark the ttml2 issues as discussed and agreed where we've discussed and agreed their equivalent ttml1 issues. -- due 2017-01-20 -- PENDINGREVIEW
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s|Nigel Megitt to Mark the ttml2 issues as discussed and agreed where we've discussed and agreed their equivalent ttml1 issues. -- due 2017-01-20 -- PENDINGREVIEW|Thierry Michel to Publish the updated ttml profile registry at https://w3c.github.io/tt-profile-registry/ by 2017-01-19 -- due 2017-01-19 -- PENDINGREVIEW
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