IRC log of i18n on 2017-01-19

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trackbot, prepare teleconference
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Zakim, this will be 4186
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Meeting: Internationalization Working Group Teleconference
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Date: 19 January 2017
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ok, trackbot
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Agenda: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2017Jan/0007.html
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Chair: Addison Phillips
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ScribeNick: addison
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Scribe: Addison Phillips
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agenda+ Agenda
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agenda+ Action Items
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agenda+ Info Share
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agenda+ Radar and Active Work Review
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agenda+ For internal review: Styling vertical Chinese, Japanese, Korean and Mongolian text
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agenda+ Typography Document ready for wide review?
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agenda+ Charmod-Norm ready for wide review?
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Regrets+ David
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present+ felix
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15:59:17 [JohnO]
present+ JohnO
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Present+ Addison
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Present+ Felix
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Present Steve
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Present+ Steve
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Present+ Richard
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agenda?
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zakim, take up agendum 1
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agendum 1. "Agenda" taken up [from addison]
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zakim, take up agendum 2
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agendum 2. "Action Items" taken up [from addison]
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https://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/open
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action-358?
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action-358 -- Felix Sasaki to Retire requirements for its 2.0 -- due 2014-11-06 -- OPEN
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http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/358
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action-412?
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action-412 -- Felix Sasaki to Publish multilingual web usage scenarios -- due 2015-03-12 -- OPEN
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http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/412
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felix: converted these to respec
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... wondering about next step to publish
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... one thing is that we should add something say "published as notes"
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... won't be worked on further
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... published by WG or by ITS-IG?
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... currently say IG
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... docs in my private github repo
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... where do I put them?
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http://fsasaki.github.io/stuff/its2req/index-as-respec.html
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http://fsasaki.github.io/stuff/mlw-metadata-us-impl/index-as-respec.html
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richard: are they pub ready?
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felix: need to check
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richard: normal pub req
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... check valid, checklinks, pubrules
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... will set up a separate repo for each
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... can set up
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action: richard: set up two repos for felix's documents from ITS for final publication as Note
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Created ACTION-580 - Set up two repos for felix's documents from its for final publication as note [on Richard Ishida - due 2017-01-26].
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felix: which group? WG or IG?
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richard: you'll see some text like this in LReq
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richard: check ready for pub; I'll create repos; transfer them; then check pubrules; decide who to raise pub req
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action-541?
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action-541 -- Richard Ishida to Revise issue 159 about modifier keys and make appropriate revisions -- due 2016-07-28 -- OPEN
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http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/541
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close action-451
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Closed action-451.
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close action-541
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Closed action-541.
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action-451?
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action-451 -- Addison Phillips to Respond on csvw issue 617 officially explaining that the wg believes that cldr's values and data structures are needed -- due 2015-07-09 -- CLOSED
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http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/451
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close action-573
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Closed action-573.
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agenda?
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zakim, take up agendum 3
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agendum 3. "Info Share" taken up [from addison]
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zakim, take up agendum 4
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agendum 4. "Radar and Active Work Review" taken up [from addison]
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https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/projects/1
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http://w3c.github.io/i18n-activity/projects/
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https://github.com/whatwg/url/pull/199
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richard: meeting of ad hoc scripts cmte
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... discussion of nnbsp in mongolian
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... change mongolian so it doesn't use narrow non break space
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... new char they'd use instead
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... in part because nnbsp is used to separate suffixes
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... mongolian is agglutinative
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... not always but often separated by a very small space
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... when you do selection/line break, should not be treated as space
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... don't do these thing properly
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... if fallback font is Arial, then fonts don't produce right behavior
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... so asking for a new character, Unicode pushing back
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... proposal doc to be written
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richard: don't know if nnbsp is considered whitespace
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agenda?
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zakim, take up agendum 5
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agendum 5. "For internal review: Styling vertical Chinese, Japanese, Korean and Mongolian text" taken up [from addison]
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http://w3c.github.io/i18n-drafts/articles/vertical-text.en
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richard: is this ready for wide review?
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steve: looked through it; greatly impressed; ready for wide review
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add an issue styling so that it's clear we're looking for feedback
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action: richard: send vertical article for wide review after getting final feedback and fixing the issue styling
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Created ACTION-581 - Send vertical article for wide review after getting final feedback and fixing the issue styling [on Richard Ishida - due 2017-01-26].
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agenda?
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zakim, take up agendum 6
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agendum 6. "Typography Document ready for wide review?" taken up [from addison]
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http://w3c.github.io/typography/
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http://w3c.github.io/typography/checklist
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richard: stuff that fantasai wrote about how justification works has a few issues that I need to address
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... so probably not ready
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action: richard: sort out justification text on typography document
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Created ACTION-582 - Sort out justification text on typography document [on Richard Ishida - due 2017-01-26].
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agenda?
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any ideas for how to publicize issues we have? send to the group
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zakim, take up agendum 7
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agendum 7. "Charmod-Norm ready for wide review?" taken up [from addison]
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http://w3c.github.io/charmod-norm/
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action: addison: review charmod-norm issues list and propose closure
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Created ACTION-583 - Review charmod-norm issues list and propose closure [on Addison Phillips - due 2017-01-26].
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Topic: AOB?
16:44:22 [Steve_Atkin]
https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/issues/310
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steve: get a list of remote devices for playback?
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... can't specifically think of a case
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https://github.com/whatwg/infra/issues/1#issuecomment-273485493
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rrsagent, make minutes
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rrsagent, make minutes
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2017/01/19-i18n-minutes.html addison
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I'm logging. Sorry, nothing found for 'help'
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zakim, bye
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leaving. As of this point the attendees have been felix, JohnO, Addison, Steve, Richard
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2017/01/19-i18n-minutes.html addison
16:58:53 [JohnO]
lol
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rrsagent, draft minutes
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2017/01/19-i18n-minutes.html r12a
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hmm, i'll ask for help
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Maybe the rrsagent is a teenager?
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oh !
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