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13:55:21 <trackbot> Meeting: Accessible Platform Architectures Working Group Teleconference
13:55:21 <trackbot> Date: 11 January 2017
13:56:03 <jasonjgw> agenda+ Teleconference logistics
13:56:42 <jasonjgw> agenda+ authentication and captcha
13:57:12 <jasonjgw> agenda+ accessibility implications of Web/Internet of Things
13:57:29 <jasonjgw> agenda+ Coordination with WCAG Silver Task Force
13:57:47 <jasonjgw> agenda+ Outreach at conferences/research fora
13:58:01 <jasonjgw> agenda+ date of next meeting
13:58:40 <MichaelC> present+
14:00:24 <janina> present+ Janina
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14:04:13 <jasonjgw> present+ jasonjgw
14:04:43 <scott_h> present+
14:05:42 <sloandr> present+
14:05:47 <sloandr> scribe: sloandr
14:07:13 <MichaelC> present+ Faezeh
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14:09:46 <janina> present+ Faezeh
14:09:53 <janina> zakim, next item
14:09:53 <Zakim> agendum 1. "Teleconference logistics" taken up [from jasonjgw]
14:11:58 <sloandr> Survey has been conducted to gather preferences for a regular time for RQTF teleconferences. Challenges due to geographical spread of participants, and impact of daylight saving time changes.
14:15:28 <sloandr> Agreed on 1400 UTC for time. Frequency of teleconferences to be revisited. Suggested weekly for now, while we ramp up work, and review when we can move to less frequent calls.
14:16:22 <janina> zakim, next item
14:16:22 <Zakim> agendum 2. "authentication and captcha" taken up [from jasonjgw]
14:17:29 <sloandr> We now have reference lists for Authentication: Authentication https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/task-forces/research-questions/wiki/Authentication_references and CAPTCHA https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/task-forces/research-questions/wiki/CAPTCHA_References
14:18:52 <janina> scribe: Janina
14:19:01 <janina> sloandr: Have more to add to the wiki
14:19:37 <janina> sloandr: Goal to point to most recent research findings
14:20:14 <janina> sloandr: To include general approaches on authentication, not just a11y
14:20:57 <janina> sloandr: Believe we'll then want to discuss--not just list publications
14:21:26 <janina> sloandr: We may want to look at how we aportion the review tasks
14:23:19 <sloandr> scribe: sloandr
14:24:07 <sloandr> scott_h: CAPTCHA search has uncovered wider set of references, and beyond accessibility. Agree we need to consider analysis
14:24:51 <jasonjgw> q+
14:25:04 <sloandr> janina: we need to consider dual-factor authentication more widely, and beyond CAPTCHA
14:25:12 <MichaelC> q+
14:25:33 <janina> ack ja
14:25:42 <MichaelC> q+ to differentiate individual identification from human detection
14:26:26 <sloandr> jasonjgq: read some of the references focused on accessibility. Some very good material we need to consider. Interesting work on CAPTCHA including imitations of audio CAPTCHA and possible alternatives.
14:27:32 <sloandr> jasonjgw: useful papers exploring alternative methods addressing needs of people with disabilities, which could contribute to guidance
14:28:16 <MichaelC> ack me
14:28:16 <Zakim> MichaelC, you wanted to differentiate individual identification from human detection
14:28:16 <janina> ack m
14:28:41 <sloandr> jasonjgw: next steps could be to identifying best practice/lessons learned; inviting expert(s) to a meeting to review our findings
14:29:56 <sloandr> MichaelC: important to distinguish authentication (process of individual proving they are who they say they are) from CAPTCHA (distinguishing human from non-human)
14:30:51 <scott_h> q+
14:30:58 <sloandr> jasonjgw: this could also feed in to the Silver TF process, establishing where authentication and CAPTCHA may influence future accessibility guidelines
14:31:05 <MichaelC> q+
14:31:18 <janina> ack sc
14:31:54 <janina> ack mi
14:32:08 <sloandr> scott_h: agree we should have an expert(s) to review findings; would be willing to refine CAPTCHA list to be more focused on accessibility
14:33:15 <sloandr> scott_h: would be willing to tackle the third topic this TF has been tasked with reviewing
14:33:20 <scott_h> q+
14:33:35 <sloandr> MichaelC: need a clear goal for review, suggest a survey or other mechanism where people can report what they're getting from the review of the literature. May be challenging finding suitable experts to review.
14:33:40 <janina> ack sc
14:34:28 <sloandr> scott_h: suggest all TF members review literature and summarise key points from each
14:35:28 <sloandr> jasonjgw: took this approach when reading papers, but we could frame review more specifically
14:35:51 <janina> sloandr: Like the idea of a framework to capture a distillation of what we read in these papers
14:38:36 <janina> sloandr: How do we divide up the work? Self-nominate? Someone assign?
14:45:26 <sloandr> jasonjgw: copyright issues with sharing, may be able to approach authors for versions
14:46:01 <sloandr> MichaelC: suggest adding access details with each reference listed on the TF wiki
14:48:54 <sloandr> MichaelC: encourage everyone to indicate what repositories they can access to aid with the review allocation process
14:51:05 <sloandr> ACTION: sloandr to extend Authentication reference list 2017/01/18
14:51:05 <trackbot> Created ACTION-2108 - Extend authentication reference list 2017/01/18 [on David Sloan - due 2017-01-18].
14:52:16 <janina> Agreed Actions: 1.) David to finalize the listing of papers to review; 2.) Michael and Jason to identify the libraries involved; 3.) People will identify which of these they can access
14:53:10 <janina> zakim, next item
14:53:10 <Zakim> agendum 3. "accessibility implications of Web/Internet of Things" taken up [from jasonjgw]
14:56:00 <sloandr> jasonjgw: Shadi has written a paper on accessibility implications of Web/Internet of Things. Propose continuing discussion with RQTF on extending this investigation into current knowledge/research activity when Shadi is available.
14:56:56 <sloandr> scott_h: notes emerging trend from devices shown at CES trade show recently for support for Alexa/voice control.
14:59:44 <janina> zakim, next item
14:59:44 <Zakim> agendum 4. "Coordination with WCAG Silver Task Force" taken up [from jasonjgw]
15:01:10 <scott_h> Janina: could you add me as action item to do lit review for Topic 2 if not alrady added
15:01:54 <jasonjgw> rrsagent, list participants
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15:02:34 <sloandr> thanks!
15:02:39 <jasonjgw> zakim, bye
15:02:39 <Zakim> leaving.  As of this point the attendees have been MichaelC, Janina, jasonjgw, scott_h, sloandr, Faezeh
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