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16:15:51 <Lisa_Seeman> zakim, next item
16:15:51 <Zakim> I see nothing on the agenda
16:16:20 <Lisa_Seeman> trackbot, start meeting
16:16:22 <Lisa_Seeman> rrsagent, make logs public
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16:16:26 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be 2642
16:16:26 <trackbot> Meeting: Cognitive Accessibility Task Force Teleconference
16:16:26 <trackbot> Date: 12 December 2016
16:16:26 <Zakim> ok, trackbot
16:17:51 <Lisa_Seeman> agenda: this
16:17:53 <Lisa_Seeman> agenda+ Action items  and review pf agenda
16:17:54 <Lisa_Seeman> agenda+ Meetings over the next few weeks
16:17:56 <Lisa_Seeman> agenda+ SC updates. WCAG and  do we want to add anything to  : https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/extension/status.html,  FAQ's
16:17:57 <Lisa_Seeman> Agenda+ Clean up of  issues page
16:17:59 <Lisa_Seeman> agenda+  Tables of user needs https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/gap-analysis/table.html
16:18:00 <Lisa_Seeman> agenda+ be done
16:18:19 <Lisa_Seeman> regrets: EA
16:44:01 <Lisa_Seeman> regrets: EA, Michael Pluke
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16:58:03 <Lisa_Seeman> zakim, next item
16:58:03 <Zakim> agendum 1. "Action items  and review pf agenda" taken up [from Lisa_Seeman]
17:02:31 <janina> present+ Janina
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17:05:29 <maryjom> present+MaryJo
17:05:43 <Lisa_Seeman> scribe JohnRochford
17:06:03 <Jim_S> present+
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17:06:08 <JohnRochford> Lisa: Let's review action items
17:06:11 <JohnRochford> present+
17:06:14 <Lisa_Seeman> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/track/actions/open
17:06:39 <JohnRochford> present+ maryjom
17:06:50 <Jan> Jan has joined #coga
17:07:07 <JohnRochford> present+ janina
17:07:17 <JohnRochford> present+ Jim_S
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17:07:25 <JohnRochford> present+ kirkwood
17:07:43 <JohnRochford> present+ Susann_Keohane
17:08:34 <Jan> My phone dropped - reconnecting
17:08:39 <JohnRochford> Lisa: John Kirkwood and Debbie Dahl are writing an issue paper on Box and web accessibility.
17:09:10 <JohnRochford> Box = bots
17:09:24 <maryjom> s/Box/bots
17:09:51 <JohnRochford> Thanks, MaryJo. I can never remember that syntax.
17:10:46 <JohnRochford> Susann: I volunteer to work on the bots issue paper.
17:12:14 <JohnRochford> Janina: Lots of bots development. In Japan, there is ongoing work for the aging population, for example.
17:12:30 <Lisa_Seeman> action: Susann to help John Kirkwood on issue paper on bot
17:12:30 <trackbot> Created ACTION-192 - Help john kirkwood on issue paper on bot [on Susann Keohane - due 2016-12-19].
17:13:20 <JohnRochford> Sussan: Lots of work in Japan on robots, such as those that emote and collect health data when hugged.
17:13:54 <JohnRochford> s/Sussan/Susann
17:17:28 <Susann_Keohane> q+
17:18:04 <JohnRochford> Janina: Work ongoing for IOT APIs. For example, autonomous-vehicle recognition by people who are blind.'
17:18:45 <Lisa_Seeman> ack su
17:19:31 <JohnRochford> Susann: We can draft an IOT issue paper, one that's broad in scope, then "see where we land".
17:20:26 <JohnRochford> janina: The brilliance of APIs is that they are not interface dependent.
17:21:15 <JohnRochford> Susann: I'm excited to work on the IOT and bots issue paper.
17:23:10 <JohnRochford> Lisa: Do we want to start recruiting people who are experts in emotional disabilities? Are there othe disabilities we should be looking at?
17:23:24 <JohnRochford> s/othe/other
17:23:56 <JohnRochford> present+ Thaddeus
17:24:03 <janina> APA's joint meeting with Web of Things during TPAC is minuted at:
17:24:04 <janina> http://www.w3.org/2016/09/19-apa-minutes.html#item06
17:24:07 <JohnRochford> present+ Jan
17:24:40 <Lisa_Seeman> 	present+ Lisa
17:25:05 <JohnRochford> Jan: Our Director of Research is joining the COGA TF, and has expertise in this area.
17:25:54 <Lisa_Seeman> action: speek to michael if we can recurte emotional disabilities experts
17:25:54 <trackbot> Error finding 'speek'. You can review and register nicknames at <http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/track/users>.
17:25:57 <JohnRochford> Lisa: Confirms, for Thaddeus, that Bipolar is on our list.
17:26:08 <Lisa_Seeman> action: lisa to speek to michael if we can recurte emotional disabilities experts
17:26:08 <trackbot> Created ACTION-193 - Speek to michael if we can recurte emotional disabilities experts [on Lisa Seeman - due 2016-12-19].
17:27:17 <JohnRochford> Lisa: Are there other disability focus areas we should address?
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17:28:00 <Thaddeus> + Thaddeus present
17:28:04 <Lisa_Seeman> resoltion to identify next to reserch modules on coga user groups
17:28:28 <Thaddeus> +1
17:28:29 <Jim_S> +1
17:28:31 <Lisa_Seeman> +1
17:28:32 <JohnRochford> +1
17:28:35 <kirkwood> +1
17:29:04 <Lisa_Seeman> action: lisa to sugest to new disbilty groups for reaserch
17:29:04 <trackbot> Created ACTION-194 - Sugest to new disbilty groups for reaserch [on Lisa Seeman - due 2016-12-19].
17:29:15 <Jan> +1
17:29:28 <Lisa_Seeman> zakim, next item
17:29:29 <Zakim> agendum 2. "Meetings over the next few weeks" taken up [from Lisa_Seeman]
17:30:24 <Jan> I am not available on the 19th
17:30:25 <Lisa_Seeman> can we make a meeting on 19th?
17:30:28 <JohnRochford> Lisa: Can people make a meeting on 12/19?
17:30:43 <maryjom> I am on vacation the week of 12/19
17:30:50 <janina> Janina is OK for the 19th
17:30:54 <Jim_S> I'm on vacation
17:31:01 <JohnRochford> Thaddeus, Janina, Kirkwood are available.
17:31:33 <JohnRochford> I am not available on 12/19. On vacation.
17:31:49 <JohnRochford> Lisa: I will ask the list.
17:32:22 <JohnRochford> Lisa: 12/26 and 1/2 are not good (no meetings)
17:32:44 <JohnRochford> Lisa: Will start again on 1/9.
17:32:50 <Lisa_Seeman> zakim, next item
17:32:50 <Zakim> agendum 3. "SC updates. WCAG and  do we want to add anything to  : https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/extension/status.html,  FAQ's" taken up [from Lisa_Seeman]
17:35:24 <JohnRochford> Lisa: It's important that we pay attention to when WCAG reviews our criteria, and review, for overlap, the SC of other TFs.
17:36:14 <JohnRochford> Lisa: Managers are being recruited for SC.
17:36:16 <Lisa_Seeman> https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/wiki/SC_Managers_Phase1
17:36:45 <JohnRochford> Lisa: So far, nobody has volunteered to manage COGA SC.
17:37:04 <JohnRochford> q+
17:37:55 <JohnRochford> JohnRochford: What does a SC manager do?
17:38:56 <Lisa_Seeman> Help evolve/iterate their SCs.
17:38:57 <Lisa_Seeman> Incorporate feedback from other Working group members into new versions of a success criterion.
17:38:59 <Lisa_Seeman> Look for synergies with SCs from other TFs.
17:39:00 <Lisa_Seeman> See if an SC can be merged/deleted as needed, if already addressed substantially within the existing WCAG canon or by another SC.
17:39:02 <Lisa_Seeman> Bring issues to the wider group that arise from discussion/feedback where broader consensus is needed.
17:39:39 <Lisa_Seeman> zakim, next item
17:39:39 <Zakim> I see a speaker queue remaining and respectfully decline to close this agendum, Lisa_Seeman
17:39:44 <Lisa_Seeman> q?
17:39:49 <Lisa_Seeman> Ack j
17:39:50 <JohnRochford> q-
17:39:57 <Lisa_Seeman> zakim, next item
17:39:57 <Zakim> agendum 4. "Clean up of  issues page" taken up [from Lisa_Seeman]
17:40:30 <Lisa_Seeman> https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/wiki/Open_Issues
17:40:58 <JohnRochford> Lisa: We have an issues page in which we were dumping info while we were developing the SC. (See preceeding URL.)
17:42:47 <JohnRochford> Lisa: I think that info, about CAPTCHA, in the Security and Privacy issue paper, made it to the Authentication issue paper.
17:44:54 <JohnRochford> Lisa: The Meta Data issue paper, but it's very brief.
17:45:02 <JohnRochford> s/The/There is
17:45:22 <JohnRochford> Lisa: Anyone here into meta data?
17:45:55 <JohnRochford> Lisa: We also need to create an issue paper on personalization user settings.
17:47:16 <JohnRochford> Lisa: We need to coordinate between personalization user settings and meta data.
17:47:40 <JohnRochford> Lisa: Gives herself an action, following...
17:47:49 <Lisa_Seeman> action: lisa reach out to madline rothberg about metadata and make sure it gets adressed soon
17:47:50 <trackbot> Created ACTION-195 - Reach out to madline rothberg about metadata and make sure it gets adressed soon [on Lisa Seeman - due 2016-12-19].
17:49:06 <JohnRochford> Lisa: Graded Help, IOT, Distractions - Are they sufficiently addressed?
17:49:15 <Lisa_Seeman> graded help, IoT, distractions are they well enough addressed
17:49:44 <JohnRochford> (Lisa is not as fast a typer as John.)
17:50:15 <Lisa_Seeman> zakim, next item
17:50:15 <Zakim> agendum 5. "Tables of user needs https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/gap-analysis/table.html" taken up [from Lisa_Seeman]
17:51:45 <Lisa_Seeman> https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/gap-analysis/table.html
17:51:57 <JohnRochford> 404 error
17:52:18 <JohnRochford> works now
17:52:32 <JohnRochford> Lisa: TF members have reviewed the gap analyses.
17:52:53 <JohnRochford> Lisa: Gap analyses not ready for publication.
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17:53:14 <Lisa_Seeman> https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/gap-analysis/
17:54:23 <Lisa_Seeman> http://w3c.github.io/coga/gap-analysis/#roadmap---tables-of-user-needs
17:54:24 <JohnRochford> Lisa: Do we want to put in the new tables?
17:54:46 <JohnRochford> Lisa: The tables of user needs are not well filled in.
17:55:14 <Lisa_Seeman> Q?
17:56:28 <JohnRochford> Lisa: Anyone not think it's important to update the tables?
17:57:35 <Lisa_Seeman> resolation, other then copyeditng and small changes, we publish in the gap anlisis new tables
17:57:44 <JohnRochford> +1
17:58:21 <janina> +1
17:58:22 <kirkwood> +1
17:58:24 <JohnRochford> RESOLUTION: Publish new tables, not old ones.
17:58:27 <Jim_S> +1
17:59:09 <JohnRochford> Lisa, I have to go.
17:59:18 <Lisa_Seeman> Thanks John, I will rap up
18:00:28 <Jan> Bye everyone - I  have to drop.
18:25:37 <Lisa_Seeman> action John_Rochford to copy edit the new tables at https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/gap-analysis/table.html including adding acronym tags
18:25:37 <trackbot> Error finding 'John_Rochford'. You can review and register nicknames at <http://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/track/users>.
18:25:47 <Lisa_Seeman> action John Rochford to copy edit the new tables at https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/gap-analysis/table.html including adding acronym tags
18:25:47 <trackbot> 'John' is an ambiguous username. Please try a different identifier, such as family name or username (e.g., jfoliot, jkirkwoo, JohnRochford).
18:26:00 <Lisa_Seeman> action JohnRochford to copy edit the new tables at https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/gap-analysis/table.html including adding acronym tags
18:26:01 <trackbot> Created ACTION-196 - Copy edit the new tables at https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/gap-analysis/table.html including adding acronym tags [on John Rochford - due 2016-12-19].
18:26:12 <Lisa_Seeman>  rrsagent, create minutes
18:26:12 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/12/12-coga-minutes.html Lisa_Seeman
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19:50:09 <Lisa_Seeman> zakim, please part
19:50:09 <Zakim> leaving.  As of this point the attendees have been Janina, MaryJo, Jim_S, JohnRochford, maryjom, kirkwood, Susann_Keohane, Thaddeus, Lisa
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19:50:24 <Lisa_Seeman> rrsagent, please part
19:50:24 <RRSAgent> I see 5 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2016/12/12-coga-actions.rdf :
19:50:24 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Susann to help John Kirkwood on issue paper on bot [1]
19:50:24 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2016/12/12-coga-irc#T17-12-30
19:50:24 <RRSAgent> ACTION: speek to michael if we can recurte emotional disabilities experts [2]
19:50:24 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2016/12/12-coga-irc#T17-25-54
19:50:24 <RRSAgent> ACTION: lisa to speek to michael if we can recurte emotional disabilities experts [3]
19:50:24 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2016/12/12-coga-irc#T17-26-08
19:50:24 <RRSAgent> ACTION: lisa to sugest to new disbilty groups for reaserch [4]
19:50:24 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2016/12/12-coga-irc#T17-29-04
19:50:24 <RRSAgent> ACTION: lisa reach out to madline rothberg about metadata and make sure it gets adressed soon [5]
19:50:24 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2016/12/12-coga-irc#T17-47-49