00:55:44 RRSAgent has joined #auto 00:55:44 logging to http://www.w3.org/2016/12/07-auto-irc 00:57:15 junichi has joined #auto 00:58:10 urata_access has joined #auto 00:58:50 present+ Kaz_Ashimura, Junichi_Hashimoto, Rudi_Streif 01:04:09 Present+ Ted 01:04:58 present+ Tatsuhiko_Hirabayashi, Powell_Kinney, Song_Li, Shinjiro_Urata 01:07:01 agenda: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-automotive/2016Dec/0003.html 01:07:14 scribenick: ted 01:07:31 Rudi reviews the emailed agenda 01:07:54 - Status of the WG Recharter, the specification draft and the next steps 01:07:54 - Status of the PoC/demo code and the next steps 01:07:54 - Meeting planning for CES 01:07:54 - Action Items 01:07:57 - Architecture Writeup/Blog 01:09:01 Rudi: VW has joined the WG recently, not sure they will make this Asia friendly time call but extend them a warm welcome nonetheless 01:09:36 ted: we had 27 responses 01:09:43 ... most of them supported the Charter 01:09:54 ... and one objection 01:10:20 ... Rudi made pull requests to improve the Charter 01:10:32 ... about security 01:10:50 ... W3C Management Team has approved the Charter 01:11:17 ... update on security and privacy to respond to the concern 01:11:39 ... liaison with GENIVI, etc. 01:12:36 ... people have to rejoin the group (due to the IP issues) 01:13:09 Kaz: correct people will need to rejoin to ensure IP commitments align with the scope of the new work 01:13:23 i/we had 27/scribenick: kaz/ 01:13:34 i/correct/scribenick: ted/ 01:13:38 Rudi: Good to know but unsure of the formality 01:13:53 … what are next steps and timeframe? Formal announcement? 01:14:28 Kaz: yes there will be automated email about needing to rejoin the group within 40 days, simple click through procedure 01:14:53 Ted: w3c-ac-members@w3.org mailing list will receive an announcement in the next couple days 01:15:54 Rudi: what happens with the next step on the FPWD? 01:16:09 Kaz: the FPWD has no specific review period 01:16:37 Rudi: what are the next steps? we have a timeline as part of the charter 01:16:40 q+ 01:17:16 Kaz: most important part is proceeding to the next major milestone Candidate Recommendation which requires a test suite 01:18:03 ted: and encourage people to implement the spec 01:18:12 PowellKinney has joined #auto 01:18:20 ... JLR, Vinli, ACCESS/KDDI, etc. 01:19:07 ... need discussion on testing framework as well 01:19:10 q? 01:19:12 ack t 01:20:34 hira: we're making implementation report plan and test suite with ACCESS 01:20:50 ... we can submit some proposal this month 01:20:56 rudi: great and really appreciated 01:21:01 ted: absolutely 01:21:24 urata: actually, I mentioned this during the f2f meeting 01:21:37 ... meaning ACCESS/KDDI are interested in testing 01:21:50 ... so implementing the server spec 01:21:53 ... also generating test suite 01:22:30 ... don't have a concrete plan about how to work with the W3C Web Platform Test environment yet 01:22:51 powell: can help test suite work 01:23:05 q? 01:23:06 scribenick: ted 01:23:17 urata: I have a question about client side of the specification 01:23:23 … are there any updates? 01:23:28 rrsagent, make log public 01:23:33 rrsagent, draft minutes 01:23:33 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/12/07-auto-minutes.html kaz 01:25:02 q+ 01:25:02 ted @@@ on higher level api 01:25:57 s/ted @@@ on higher level api/ted: i believe vin.lin had expresed interest in working on the higher level api and hope to have a tier 1 with similar interested get involved shortly/ 01:26:08 ack k 01:26:18 kaz: we can discuss more with plh (Philippe Le Hegaret) 01:26:42 s/Hegaret)/Hegaret) about the procedure/ 01:27:11 i/ted:/urata: wondering about the Vehicle Signal Client spec/ 01:27:41 s/vin.lin/vin.li/ 01:27:51 q+ 01:28:18 Meeting: Automotive WG 01:28:22 Chair: Rudi 01:28:26 rrsagent, draft minutes 01:28:26 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/12/07-auto-minutes.html kaz 01:28:32 powell: we're still interested in doing it, is there a proposed timeline we want this out by 01:28:53 -> https://www.w3.org/2014/automotive/charter-2016.html proposed Charter 01:29:14 [[ 01:29:15 November 2016: FPWD of Vehicle Signal Server Specification 01:29:15 December 2016: FPWD of Vehicle Signal Client Specification 01:29:15 April 2017: CR of Vehicle Signal Server Specification 01:29:15 April 2017: CR of Vehicle Signal Client Specification 01:29:15 July 2017: PR of Vehicle Signal Server Specification 01:29:17 July 2017: PR of Vehicle Signal Client Specification 01:29:19 November 2017: REC of Vehicle Signal Server Specification 01:29:21 December 2017: REC of Vehicle Signal Client Specification 01:29:23 ]] 01:30:54 powell: was there a decision on promise vs callback vs vanilla? 01:31:13 rudi: vanilla 01:31:22 ted: that might be a good question to pose to the mailing list? 01:32:33 Topic: Proof of concept demo code 01:33:04 i/Rudi reviews the/topic: Agenda/ 01:33:37 Rudi: we want some replayable signals data pulled from an ODB2 dongle or other 01:33:50 i/we had 27/topic: WG rechartering/ 01:33:51 rrsagent, draft minutes 01:33:51 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/12/07-auto-minutes.html kaz 01:34:05 Powell: we query different signals and translate into a stream of curated data, not arbitrary access 01:34:32 … we are looking to expose on top of our platform W3C's specification 01:34:34 i/encourage people/scribenick: kaz/ 01:34:36 rrsagent, draft minutes 01:34:36 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/12/07-auto-minutes.html kaz 01:35:00 Urata: actually I am trying to create a prototype and could use some data for testing 01:35:27 … there is no strong need to use real vehicle data and planning on creating an emulation instead 01:36:09 https://github.com/pkinney/w3cag-simple-server 01:36:49 Song: I started that for my demo and adding more simulated data 01:39:08 Ted: It would be good to take links from the long Genivi AMM demo thread and collect those on a wiki 01:39:21 … I will ask you (Song) and others if I can run their demo during Genivi showcase at CES 01:40:15 Rudi: regarding CES there will be a number of people from the W3C group present, please respond to the doodle if you will be there, and it is an opportunity to meet 01:41:23 Song: if there is a specific date and time for a meeting settled I can arrange the space 01:41:38 Hira: I would like to be able to attend remotely if possible 01:42:18 Rudi: that might be a challenge unless the meeting space has sufficient network access, we can try to find that out in advance 01:42:43 … looking at the Doodle it looks like Thursday the 5th might work best 01:43:16 Song: how about we settle on 2-5pm local time? 01:43:20 Rudi: sounds good 01:43:55 Topic: Architecture article 01:44:16 Rudi: I will be working on a security architecture article as mentioned in email 01:44:26 … Powell will start on a draft of higher level API 01:44:36 rrsagent, draft minutes 01:44:36 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/12/07-auto-minutes.html kaz 01:45:54 i/regarding CES/topic: Meeting planning for CES/ 01:45:55 rrsagent, draft minutes 01:45:55 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/12/07-auto-minutes.html kaz 01:45:57 [adjourned] 01:45:59 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/12/07-auto-minutes.html ted 01:47:19 I see no action items