15:00:42 RRSAgent has joined #coga 15:00:42 logging to http://www.w3.org/2016/12/05-coga-irc 15:10:18 MichaelC has joined #coga 16:11:52 agenda: this 16:11:54 Agenda+ actions 16:11:55 agenda+ faqs and updates on media and user stories 16:11:57 agenda+ what other pieces do we need 16:11:58 agenda+ addressing feedback 16:12:00 agenda+ Tables https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/gap-analysis/table.html 16:12:01 agenda+ What have we missed for issues page 16:14:23 regrets: kurt mattes, John Kirkwood, ayelet seeman 16:44:02 regrets: kurt mattes, John Kirkwood, ayelet seeman, Thadd 16:44:35 zakim, next item 16:44:35 agendum 1. "actions" taken up [from Lisa_Seeman] 16:47:12 regrets: kurt mattes, John Kirkwood, ayelet seeman, Thadd, Chaohai Ding 16:47:37 regrets: kurt mattes, John Kirkwood, ayelet seeman, Thaddeus, Chaohai Ding 16:56:43 JohnRochford has joined #coga 16:59:55 Mike_Pluke has joined #coga 17:01:25 maryjom has joined #coga 17:02:01 Jim_S has joined #coga 17:02:01 present+ Janina 17:02:01 scribe: Mike_Pluke 17:03:19 https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/track/actions/open 17:03:35 present+ 17:03:55 present+ Mike_Pluke 17:04:10 Jan has joined #coga 17:04:13 present+ Lisa_Seeman 17:04:37 present+ JohnRochford 17:04:37 present+ jan mcsorley 17:04:40 present+ 17:04:48 present+ 17:04:55 present+ Jan 17:05:05 Action for Mike tp review coverage of the ISO document to look for gaps. Mike will do for next Monday. 17:05:07 q? 17:05:09 Error finding 'for'. You can review and register nicknames at . 17:05:11 present+ janina 17:05:40 Janina action point - maybe just a formatting exercise 17:06:51 present+ maryjom 17:07:17 Review FCC White Paper - Mike has not, but Mary Jo has and says it is just an overview and not as detailed as our work. - Closed 17:08:04 zakim, next item 17:08:04 agendum 2. "faqs and updates on media and user stories" taken up [from Lisa_Seeman] 17:08:15 q? 17:08:58 Copy editing - a big thank you to everyone for drafting, reviewing of SCs and the copywriting team - Jan, Jim, John Rochford and Thadeus were super busy and effective. 17:09:41 Identifying new user needs (table) is still something that should be done. 17:10:32 Needs: Support for personalization etc. need to be identified and fits in with our roadmap. 17:11:01 Phase 2 - user needs - should we be looking at emotional disabilities. 17:11:13 action: Thadd and bernard user reserch module on emotional dibilities 17:11:13 Error finding 'Thadd'. You can review and register nicknames at . 17:11:41 q? 17:12:04 action: Thaddeus Cambron and Jan and bernard user reserch module on emotional dibilities 17:12:06 Created ACTION-189 - Cambron and jan and bernard user reserch module on emotional dibilities [on Thaddeus Cambron - due 2016-12-12]. 17:12:26 User research related to things such as Help may need to be persued. 17:13:05 Research Module for emotional disabilities (2 part) 17:13:28 Phase 2 issue papers on Ethics, testing and bots 17:14:00 John Rochford working on indoor navigation and other John working on outdoor navigation. 17:14:04 action: John_R and John_K issue paper on navigation 17:14:04 Error finding 'John_R'. You can review and register nicknames at . 17:14:49 action Lisa to draft phase to proposal 17:14:49 Created ACTION-190 - Draft phase to proposal [on Lisa Seeman - due 2016-12-12]. 17:16:22 Probably will need to review things that are not fully accepted in Phase 1 - for potential inclusion in Phase 2 17:17:49 q? 17:18:14 1) SUpportive material (e.g. FAQ) - 2) making semantics easier - ned to be worked on. 17:18:24 https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/wiki/COGA-FAQ 17:23:55 q? 17:26:37 Mike suggests that when we have similar success criteria that differ in their scope we could amend the titles to put the key scope differences in brackets at the end of the title 17:28:04 +1 to mention something about situational cognitive disabilities under stressful situations, etc. 17:30:20 Kirkwood has joined #Coga 17:30:59 EA has joined #coga 17:31:27 Agree to sending the FAQ to WCAG now, and clarify that it is a work in progress. 17:31:31 +1 to submitting FAQs to WCAG because it's going to be a work in progress 17:32:54 FAQs useful to point people to if they ask a typical question that we have already addressed. 17:34:37 A series of videos about user needs as a possibility to introduce in January (via Neil and the education outreach group0. Maybe also BBC videos and ask the team if they want to make more. 17:34:50 https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2016/nov/11/autism-in-the-workplace-an-opportunity-not-a-drawback 17:36:12 Anna forest 17:37:31 John Kirkwood "People in NYC who might be interested" - will reach out to them 17:38:46 Test criteria - APIs and personalization semantics that should make things easier 17:39:19 https://w3c.github.io/personalization-semantics/ 17:39:29 https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/gap-analysis/table.html 17:39:49 need: prersonlization settings 17:40:14 User need tables have specified all the things we need from the user needs perspective but need personalization settings standardised 17:40:37 Also need implementation - important for W3C process 17:41:58 specifcations at a working draft 17:42:10 implations 17:42:15 An interesting VR experience of sensory overload for an autistic chid at: http://www.autism.org.uk/get-involved/tmi/virtual.aspx (not ICT specific - put powerful) 17:42:41 https://github.com/ayelet-seeman/coga.personalisation 17:43:23 Browser extension - script project already made - but not in line with what we have now - might be a candidate for an extension 17:43:30 implention as an extention, or websites using 17:44:08 So sorry keep losing connection will use minutes to keep up. 17:44:59 Getting something like this actually used would greatly increase the traction in getting things accepted. Does this need a separate sub-group. 17:46:10 John Rochford - A demonstration of an online course related to people with intellectual disabilities - could incorporate the personalization stuff into the course activity. 17:47:58 Q? 17:49:48 John Rochford and John Kirkwood interested in trying to get things developed. 17:50:16 Q? 17:50:44 zakim, next item 17:50:44 agendum 3. "what other pieces do we need" taken up [from Lisa_Seeman] 17:51:07 https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/gap-analysis/table.html 17:52:58 Could do with implementation on the Interruptions Matrix and the Log into breadcrumbs 17:54:25 Jan needs to look at the COGA personalisation work to see how it fits in with what she is doing - looking towards possible implementation. 17:54:53 Browser and operating system guidance could be something that is needed. 17:55:14 Conformance testing - what should it look like is something else that might be needed. 17:57:16 Although W3C doesn't implement - we need to be describe things that are implementable. 17:57:26 https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/wiki/Open_Issues 17:58:09 Action: Lisa to tiedy up issue page 17:58:10 Created ACTION-191 - Tiedy up issue page [on Lisa Seeman - due 2016-12-12]. 17:59:05 Nobody is working on meta data - would turn into techniques - need an Issue Paper? 17:59:22 Q? 17:59:35 Need to improve existing metadata issue paper 18:01:19 resolutions: changes to sc that do not reduce the extent to which the user need is adressed cna be done without taskfource cocnent 18:01:24 +1 18:01:33 +1 18:01:34 +1 18:01:34 +1 18:01:43 +1 18:01:48 +1 18:01:48 John kirkoud +1 18:02:06 s/kirkoud/Kirkwood/ 18:02:49 rrsagent, make logs public 18:02:59 rrsagent, create minutes 18:02:59 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/12/05-coga-minutes.html Lisa_Seeman 18:22:34 https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/wiki/COGA-FAQ 21:20:53 MichaelC has joined #coga