16:55:23 RRSAgent has joined #audio 16:55:23 logging to http://www.w3.org/2016/12/01-audio-irc 16:55:25 RRSAgent, make logs world 16:55:25 Zakim has joined #audio 16:55:27 Zakim, this will be 28346 16:55:27 ok, trackbot 16:55:28 Meeting: Audio Working Group Teleconference 16:55:28 Date: 01 December 2016 16:55:45 agenda+ Discuss the timing and process of transitioning the spec to CR 16:56:02 agenda+ Review remaining work preceding CR that MUST occur prior to that transition. 16:56:20 agenda+ AudioWorklet review status - specifically, the changes for maplike AudioParams 16:56:28 agenda+ Issues for which WG Review has been requested (at a minimum, #1081) 16:56:39 agenda+ Review issues with no milestone attached https://github.com/WebAudio/web-audio-api/issues?q=is%3Aopen+is%3Aissue+no%3Amilestone 16:56:44 joe has joined #audio 16:56:53 trackbot, start telcon 16:56:54 padenot has joined #audio 16:56:56 RRSAgent, make logs world 16:56:59 Zakim, this will be 28346 16:56:59 Meeting: Audio Working Group Teleconference 16:56:59 Date: 01 December 2016 16:56:59 ok, trackbot 16:57:37 padenot_ has joined #audio 16:57:51 agenda+ Discuss the timing and process of transitioning the spec to CR 16:58:03 zakim, clear agenda 16:58:03 agenda cleared 16:58:06 agenda+ Discuss the timing and process of transitioning the spec to CR 16:58:32 agenda+ AudioWorklet review status - specifically, the changes for maplike AudioParams 16:58:45 agenda+ Review remaining work preceding CR that MUST occur prior to that transition. 16:58:56 agenda+ Issues for which WG Review has been requested (at a minimum, #1081) 16:59:10 agenda+ Review issues with no milestone attached 16:59:14 present+ joe 16:59:41 jdsmith has joined #audio 16:59:47 kawai has joined #audio 16:59:52 present+ jdsmith 17:00:38 agenda? 17:00:46 present+ mdjp 17:02:37 hongchan has joined #audio 17:03:32 plh has joined #audio 17:04:00 plh, are you able to join the audio channel yet? 17:04:40 plh, sorry see your earlier message - the CR discussion will wait for you 17:05:14 zakim, next agendum 17:05:14 agendum 1. "Discuss the timing and process of transitioning the spec to CR" taken up [from joe] 17:05:21 zakim, next agendum 17:05:22 agendum 1 was just opened, joe 17:05:57 rtoyg_m has joined #audio 17:05:58 zakim,take up agendum 2 17:05:58 agendum 2. "AudioWorklet review status - specifically, the changes for maplike AudioParams" taken up [from joe] 17:06:19 present rtoyg_m 17:06:25 present+ hongchan 17:06:40 present+ rtoyg_m 17:06:55 hongchan working on maplike issue today 17:07:13 joe anything else related to AW that need attention prior to CR? 17:07:39 https://github.com/WebAudio/web-audio-api/issues/1084 17:07:47 hongchan new issue to be discussed ^ 17:08:42 https://github.com/WebAudio/web-audio-api/issues/1079 17:09:00 hongchan editorial issue ^ 17:10:09 hongchan (1084) paint api - if paint method throws - it is marked as invalidated and method will not get called anymore. Not sure if that is the right mechanism for us - would be easy but not ideal 17:11:00 joe has same concerns - its too easy to throw because an input is not connected yet - is it possible to prevern error messages from clogging the UA without killing off the AWP? 17:11:24 joe if answer is no - then adopt the same proposal as css paint 17:13:34 hongchan will have conversation with ian to take this forward 17:13:53 zakim,take up agendum 3 17:13:53 agendum 3. "Review remaining work preceding CR that MUST occur prior to that transition." taken up [from joe] 17:13:55 zakim, next agendum 17:13:55 agendum 3 was just opened, joe 17:16:41 https://github.com/WebAudio/web-audio-api/issues/95 17:17:24 joe how close are we to solving this problem with new language 17:18:18 padenot_ we are close, its not usual to have this in code, but we have this in other sections. rtoyg_m can rewrite the spec as text rather than code 17:19:32 padenot_ we need to spec subsample start and loop points and we are mostly done. We should remove resampling from the equation and say that playback rate can be defined by taking resampled block of audio as source. 17:20:40 joe this is a key point, its confusing because both original write up and new write up from rtoyg_m assume some resampling at the beginning to the context rate. 17:25:21 joe buffer sample function, takes an index and interpolates, converts index into a sample - index can be fractional. description doesnt need to define difference between interpolation and resampling this can be left to the UA 17:26:15 joe rtoyg_m description, refine description of buffer sample may get there. 17:26:26 rtoyg to think about this 17:26:36 joe dynamics compressor node 17:27:00 rtoyg_m has joined #audio 17:27:33 padenot_ re-reverse engineered the node - some mention of removing pre/post deemphasis filter. Energy estimation to be moved from the main loop 17:28:46 rtoyg also happy to help with this 17:29:34 https://github.com/WebAudio/web-audio-api/issues/10 17:30:23 https://github.com/WebAudio/web-audio-api/issues?q=is%3Aopen+is%3Aissue+milestone%3A%22Web+Audio+V1%22+label%3A%22Ready+for+Editing%22 17:31:33 padenot_ https://github.com/WebAudio/web-audio-api/issues/324 awaiting conversation with karl 17:34:13 zakim, next agendum 17:34:13 agendum 1. "Discuss the timing and process of transitioning the spec to CR" taken up [from joe] 17:34:28 zakim, take up agendum 4 17:34:28 agendum 4. "Issues for which WG Review has been requested (at a minimum, #1081)" taken up [from joe] 17:34:49 present+ 17:34:52 https://github.com/WebAudio/web-audio-api/issues?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=is%3Aopen%20is%3Aissue%20label%3A%22Needs%20WG%20review%22%20 17:38:53 plh CR requires director approval - transition request needs to be sent - need to show issues as being addressed (positive or negative, refer to V2) 17:39:37 https://github.com/WebAudio/web-audio-api 17:45:11 CR exit criteria need to be listed in CR - eg 2 implementations of all features and test suite to prove 17:46:16 other means than test suites can be listed eg usage and uptake on the web 17:46:42 joe we have great implementation for most of the api but there are some new features which dont exist yet 17:47:29 https://services.w3.org/xslt?xmlfile=https://www.w3.org/2005/08/01-transitions2015.html&xslfile=https://www.w3.org/2005/08/transitions2015.xsl&docstatus=cr-tr 17:55:40 both google and mozilla are submitting tests to web platform, all spec features have 2 implementations apart from audio worklet 17:56:02 joe we can begin to draft the content for CR in the next few weeks. 17:56:26 plh focus on clearing out issues and agreement of duration and exit criteria of CR 17:57:25 rtoyg_m has joined #audio 17:58:23 next meeting? 17:58:56 15th December 17:59:26 rrsagent, make minutes 17:59:26 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/12/01-audio-minutes.html joe 18:01:21 hongchan has joined #audio 18:05:44 hongchan has left #audio 19:53:55 shepazu has joined #audio