13:56:27 RRSAgent has joined #multimodal 13:56:27 logging to http://www.w3.org/2016/11/28-multimodal-irc 13:59:11 ddahl has joined #multimodal 14:06:15 dirk has joined #multimodal 14:08:04 Meeting: MMI WG 14:08:07 Chair: Debbie 14:08:14 present: Debbie, Dirk, Kaz 14:08:20 regrets: Helena 14:08:29 agenda: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-mmi-wg/2016Nov/0014.html 14:08:46 topic: Actions 14:08:46 -> https://www.w3.org/2002/mmi/Group/track/actions/open actions 14:08:50 action-454? 14:08:50 action-454 -- Deborah Dahl to Turn bullet list into text -- due 2016-09-05 -- OPEN 14:08:50 https://www.w3.org/2002/mmi/Group/track/actions/454 14:08:58 ddahl: not yet 14:09:05 action-457? 14:09:05 action-457 -- Kazuyuki Ashimura to Make a strawman/template diagram for relationships between entities in a use case -- due 2016-10-10 -- OPEN 14:09:05 https://www.w3.org/2002/mmi/Group/track/actions/457 14:09:10 kaz: not yet 14:09:21 action-458? 14:09:21 action-458 -- B Helena RODRIGUEZ to Send wot person our vocabulary to get his comments and then we can reconcile our work with their work -- due 2016-10-24 -- OPEN 14:09:21 https://www.w3.org/2002/mmi/Group/track/actions/458 14:09:30 ddahl: helena's action 14:09:53 kaz: not sure 14:09:59 ... but can talk with Sebastian if needed 14:10:06 ddahl: let's wait for Helena 14:10:11 action-461? 14:10:11 action-461 -- Kazuyuki Ashimura to Talk with plh about the change of the title for the discovery wd -- due 2016-11-21 -- OPEN 14:10:11 https://www.w3.org/2002/mmi/Group/track/actions/461 14:10:17 kaz: talked with PLH 14:10:47 ... we can publish an updated draft with some updated title 14:10:47 ddahl: good 14:10:55 action-461 close 14:10:58 action-461 closed 14:10:58 Closed action-461. 14:11:03 s/action-461 close// 14:11:08 action-462? 14:11:08 action-462 -- B Helena RODRIGUEZ to Put software in github -- due 2016-11-28 -- OPEN 14:11:08 https://www.w3.org/2002/mmi/Group/track/actions/462 14:11:13 ddahl: Helena's action 14:12:04 -> https://github.com/w3c/mmi-discovery MMI Discovery 14:12:23 (skimming the repo) 14:12:29 kaz: maybe not yet done 14:13:14 ddahl: will talk with her 14:13:23 s/her/her next time/ 14:13:26 action-463? 14:13:27 action-463 -- Kazuyuki Ashimura to Talk with johannes about a good time for an mmi/wot call, possibly during scripting time slot -- due 2016-11-28 -- OPEN 14:13:27 https://www.w3.org/2002/mmi/Group/track/actions/463 14:14:08 kaz: got response from Johannes, and suggested we talk about MMI next Monday 14:14:13 ddahl: same time? 14:14:29 dirk: won't be around next Monday 14:14:48 kaz: Dec. 12 would be better 14:14:48 ddahl: ok 14:14:56 kaz: will talk with Johannes again 14:15:15 ... let's keep this action item 463 open 14:16:00 ddahl: what to prepare? 14:18:09 kaz: given the current discussion, we should explain the event handling mechanism (=lifecycle events) 14:18:33 ... also data format and IM's SCXML capability 14:18:41 ddahl: we should explain your diagram as well 14:18:46 kaz: yes 14:19:28 ... fyi, I'm suggesting they should think about updated new use cases and compile a use case document rather than talking about various possible use cases one by one 14:19:48 ddahl: do you the link to the use case document? 14:20:41 -> http://w3c.github.io/wot/wot-ucr.html WoT use case document 14:21:23 kaz: think the WoT group should update this 14:22:07 -> https://www.w3.org/2016/11/28-wot-minutes.html WoT Scripting minutes today 14:24:00 ddahl: might be interesting to read the WoT use case document 14:24:05 ... maybe next week 14:24:24 ... joint discussion on Dec. 12 would be good 14:24:34 action-464? 14:24:34 action-464 -- Kazuyuki Ashimura to Write more about uc-7 -- due 2016-11-28 -- OPEN 14:24:34 https://www.w3.org/2002/mmi/Group/track/actions/464 14:24:48 kaz: not yet done 14:25:38 ddahl: smart appliance use case 14:25:40 kaz: yes 14:35:41 dirk has joined #multimodal 14:36:16 topic: New Charter 14:36:22 kaz: sorry but not yet done 14:37:10 ... will copy the update template to our GitHub repo 14:37:24 ... can copy the current content as the starting point 14:37:41 ddahl: the target scope of the next period should be much simpler 14:38:46 kaz: wondering about the possible maintenance work from the VBWG 14:39:00 ... maybe we could use the new CG for that purpose, though 14:39:11 ddahl: possible topics include SCXML, PLS, etc. 14:39:48 ... could we say something needs normative changes for VB specs? 14:40:28 ... maybe good to leave it in the CG due to the IP viewpoint? 14:40:31 kaz: yeah 14:41:30 ... we don't need a WG for maintenance unless we really need to republish VB specs 14:41:45 ddahl: we can continue to update the errata 14:44:42 kaz: if there is enough interest by the Members, we could create an WG for SCXML for example 14:45:32 ddahl: might be good to leave it for the CG for a while 14:45:40 topic: Use Cases 14:46:01 ddahl: discussion for today? 14:46:18 ... interested in taking some more use cases? 14:46:27 dirk: smart home might be interesting 14:46:49 ddahl: you mean smart appliance? 14:47:12 ... maybe we could extend that as a smart home 14:47:51 ... we should put some concrete text based on Dirk's paper 14:49:20 kaz: was planning to merge uc-7 and uc-18 14:49:57 ... if it's OK by you, I can merge them shortly and you can add your update to that merged uc 14:49:59 dirk: ok 14:50:22 -> https://w3c.github.io/mmi/usecases/Overview.html use case document 14:50:26 -> https://w3c.github.io/mmi/usecases/Overview.html#UC-7:_Multimodal_Appliances UC-7 14:50:36 -> https://w3c.github.io/mmi/usecases/Overview.html#UC-18_smart_remote_for_appliances UC-18 14:51:02 action: kaz to merge uc-7 and uc-18 14:51:03 Created ACTION-465 - Merge uc-7 and uc-18 [on Kazuyuki Ashimura - due 2016-12-05]. 14:51:45 kaz: also I think I was expected to restructure the sections 14:51:55 ... to make a priority use cases and others 14:52:01 ... will do that as well 14:52:20 action: kaz to restructure the uc document with priority ones vs others 14:52:20 Created ACTION-466 - Restructure the uc document with priority ones vs others [on Kazuyuki Ashimura - due 2016-12-05]. 14:53:01 ddahl: also we need to add uc-23 to the content 14:53:03 kaz: right 14:53:12 action: kaz to add uc-23 to the toc 14:53:12 Created ACTION-467 - Add uc-23 to the toc [on Kazuyuki Ashimura - due 2016-12-05]. 14:53:31 s/the content/the Table of Contents/ 14:54:02 ddahl: anything else for toay? 14:54:10 s/toay/today/ 14:55:20 dirk: have just sent my initial review of the discovery draft 14:55:31 -> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/www-multimodal/2016Nov/0003.html Dirk's review 14:55:36 ddahl: great 14:55:42 ... we should discuss next time 14:55:51 dirk: not next week but the week after 14:56:20 ... including some terminology as well 14:57:05 [ adjourned ] 14:57:12 rrsagent, make log public 14:57:18 rrsagent, draft minutes 14:57:18 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/11/28-multimodal-minutes.html kaz 15:36:17 ddahl has left #multimodal 16:20:58 Zakim has left #multimodal