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14:13:49 <janina> topic: Introductions
14:14:05 <janina> [people are introducing themselves]
14:15:18 <janina> present+ David_Sloan
14:17:39 <janina> zakim, who's here?
14:17:39 <Zakim> Present: Janina, sloandr, Scott, David_Sloan
14:17:41 <Zakim> On IRC I see Judy, sloandr, jasonjgw, RRSAgent, Zakim, janina, shadi, MichaelC
14:23:58 <janina> topic: Workplan Discussion
14:24:25 <janina> jw: Consists of ideas that arose from APA discussions
14:25:23 <janina> jw: Topics include authentication (also including captcha); personalization, ...
14:25:53 <janina> jw: Methodological advice for Silver (from WCAG); ...
14:26:29 <janina> https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/task-forces/research-questions/work-statement
14:26:59 <janina> Workplan URI is ...
14:28:11 <janina> sh: Interested about including apps, is that in scope?
14:28:48 <janina> jw: Notes WCAG has an active Mobile Accessibility TF
14:29:15 <janina> jw: They're developing requirements for WCAG 2.1 and beyond
14:29:58 <janina> sh: Example of interest is virtual reality and how that could help pwds
14:30:04 <Judy> q+
14:30:30 <janina> ack judy
14:30:52 <janina> jb: Notes we should look at the Work Statement for scoping questions ...
14:30:54 <janina> https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/task-forces/research-questions/work-statement
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14:31:37 <janina> jb: Notes that VR not currently up for WCAG 2.1, but hopes it is for Silver
14:35:05 <Judy> q+
14:35:38 <janina> janina: Noting her view that any tech using http is in scope -- browsers being a general user instance; and apps being specific task instances
14:36:11 <janina> Here's the Workplan:
14:36:13 <janina> https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/task-forces/research-questions/wiki/Work_Plan
14:36:48 <sloandr> q+
14:36:55 <janina> jb: Notes the Silver work and apps are OK, but TF is more directly tied to APA's concerns
14:37:24 <janina> q?
14:37:31 <janina> ack sl
14:38:31 <janina> ds: Recalling that rdwg was more driven by interests of participants, and likes that we're coordinating topics with other W3 work this time
14:38:54 <Judy> ack j
14:39:00 <Judy> ack s
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14:40:03 <janina> jw: Notes potential additions for the Workplan and we should discuss on list
14:40:28 <janina> present+ Gottfried
14:41:04 <janina> topic: Web Authentication
14:41:35 <janina> jw: There is interest around W3C, including around WAI to enhance how authentication is handled on the web
14:41:51 <janina> jw: APIs are being developed by a Web Authentication WG
14:42:13 <janina> jw: Would include biometrics, as well as multifactor
14:42:39 <janina> jw: We need to start thinking about the a11y implications of all these approaches
14:43:08 <janina> jw: We should look to inform W3 activity on this, and also related WCAG responses
14:43:58 <janina> jw: Suggest we need to identify prior research and pubs in this area
14:47:52 <janina> janina: Notes the joint meeting during TPAC and that we were pointed to a developer group that implements specs in devices
14:48:07 <janina> janina: We neglected to scribe, but I will post that group's contact info
14:49:02 <janina> jw: Anyone with experience in this area? Or interested in taking this on specifically?
14:50:07 <sloandr> q+
14:50:42 <jasonjgw> Janina: it was clear from the joint meeting that risk-based authentication was being promoted for use on the server. There are several ways of judging risk and different levels of confidence regarding the information provided by the client.
14:51:11 <janina> jw: So, they call it "risk based authentication"
14:51:41 <janina> jw: Server acquires data from client, and these are factored along with other data, e.g. ip of the client
14:52:26 <janina> topic: Coordination with WCAG
14:53:05 <janina> jw: Very interested in developing useful data gathering instruments to inform Silver
14:53:21 <janina> jw: So are keen on obtaining methodological guidance
14:53:45 <janina> jw: Also in developing comprehensive literature of relevance
14:53:58 <janina> jw: Want to coordinate with RQTF on these
14:54:30 <janina> ds: I've already joined the Silver TF and would be happy to liaison for RQTF
14:55:16 <janina> ds: Discussion of authentication got me thinking about our own methodology in this group
14:55:40 <Judy> q+
14:55:50 <janina> ds: Should we be looking to develop a listing of a11y experts in various important areas of concern?
14:56:10 <janina> ds: So we would know who's working in a particular area?
14:56:13 <sloandr> q-
14:56:21 <janina> ack judy
14:56:30 <janina> jb: Interesting suggestion.
14:56:57 <janina> jb: Hope we look in multiple communities, both in a11y and in the topic area itself
14:57:30 <janina> jb: Hope that we look at enough that this would become a fluid interaction and we would continue to reach out on each topic
14:58:56 <janina> ds: Agree we shouldn't digress on this, just as a quick and basic help to get us going
14:59:22 <janina> ds: Noting that this might be a way to draw in more participation for the RQTF
15:00:33 <janina> jw: Yes, if we know of contributors in general, or on a specific topic area, please contact and encourage their participation
15:00:45 <janina> sh: What's the best process? Can we forward them to Jason
15:00:59 <janina> jw: Notes the "participation" section in the Work Statement
15:01:48 <janina> js: Also goot to let Jason know, so we can track and help
15:02:02 <janina> s/goot/good/
15:03:20 <janina> ds: Will try to come up with a few names of persons we might benefit from
15:03:27 <janina> ds: Should I email? Is there a wiki?
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15:03:55 <janina> jw: Likes the notion of a wiki in order to tie in publications, etc
15:04:15 <janina> jw: I'll volunteer to continue looking at authentication ...
15:04:59 <janina> sh: Happy to get involved
15:05:08 <janina> ds: Also
15:05:38 <janina> topic: Next call
15:06:08 <janina> js: Suggesting 30 November
15:06:37 <janina> sh: Will be flying, but regular sounds fine
15:06:53 <janina> sh: One hour earlier would be easier
15:10:23 <janina> rrsagent, make log public
15:10:29 <janina> rrsagent, make minutes
15:10:29 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/11/16-rqtf-minutes.html janina
15:10:32 <sloandr> thanks, everyone!
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15:11:14 <janina> rrsagent, make minutes
15:11:14 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/11/16-rqtf-minutes.html janina
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16:10:37 <MichaelC> rrsagent, make log world
16:10:47 <MichaelC> meeting: Research Questions Task Force
16:10:52 <MichaelC> chair: Jason_White
16:11:00 <MichaelC> scribeOptions: -final
16:11:04 <MichaelC> rrsagent, make minutes
16:11:04 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/11/16-rqtf-minutes.html MichaelC
16:11:05 <MichaelC> rrsagent, bye
16:11:05 <RRSAgent> I see no action items