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18:03:17 <MichaelC> rrsagent, make log world
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18:03:17 <MichaelC> meeting: ARIA Editors
18:03:18 <MichaelC> agenda: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-aria-editors/2016Nov/0012.html
18:03:18 <MichaelC> chair: MichaelC
18:03:18 <MichaelC> scribe: MichaelC
18:03:20 <MichaelC> agenda+ Timeline check http://www.w3.org/WAI/ARIA/project
18:03:22 <MichaelC> agenda+ Difficulties using Respec
18:03:24 <MichaelC> agenda+ Travis-CI build failures
18:03:26 <MichaelC> agenda+ Update on common files repository
18:03:28 <MichaelC> agenda+ AOB
18:03:30 <MichaelC> agenda+ Next Meeting
18:03:32 <MichaelC> regrets: Rich
18:04:39 <MichaelC> present+ MichaelC, JamesN, Tzviya, Matt
18:04:45 <clown> present+ Joseph
18:05:46 <MichaelC> zakim, next item
18:05:46 <Zakim> agendum 1. "Timeline check http://www.w3.org/WAI/ARIA/project" taken up [from MichaelC]
18:06:45 <MichaelC> agenda+ Cleanup stuff migrated from repo
18:07:02 <MichaelC> agenda order 1, 2, 3, 4, 7
18:07:26 <MichaelC> DPub Roles CfC in DPub IG closes today
18:07:29 <MichaelC> still have to do ARIA one
18:08:11 <MichaelC> send Transition Request next week
18:08:20 <MichaelC> and publish week of 28 Nov
18:08:46 <MichaelC> Practices WD in Dec
18:09:53 <joanie> present+ Joanmarie_Diggs
18:12:30 <MichaelC> need to check links, well formedness, respec errors, etc.
18:12:52 <MichaelC> and write status section
18:13:02 <MichaelC> aim for 14 Dec publication (ready by 9th)
18:13:33 <MichaelC> AAMs have some pull requests from MS but not merging
18:13:52 <MichaelC> pending edits from Apple but not sure how much
18:14:11 <MichaelC> so Jan publication still planned but getting tricky[
18:14:17 <clown> action-1732
18:14:17 <trackbot> action-1732 -- Michael Cooper to Work on conformance section for mappings (note there is a section, but change id=conformance so respec picks up) -- due 2015-10-14 -- OPEN
18:14:17 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/ARIA/track/actions/1732
18:14:18 <MichaelC> catching up on actions
18:15:50 <MichaelC> DPub AAM still targeting well but also lots of pending mappings from Microsoft
18:16:14 <MichaelC> s/well/Jan as well/
18:16:46 <MichaelC> zakim, next item
18:16:46 <Zakim> agendum 2. "Difficulties using Respec" taken up [from MichaelC]
18:17:33 <MichaelC> Respec has been breaking, not running the structure code
18:17:38 <MichaelC> for a while was most of the time
18:17:48 <MichaelC> since Monday is less often but still happens
18:18:23 <MichaelC> also seen that sometimes content is in wrong place
18:18:46 <MichaelC> if refresh, tends to load
18:18:55 <MichielBijl> present+
18:19:20 <MichaelC> in Firefox can take multiple refreshes
18:19:26 <MichaelC> in other browsers is just one
18:19:50 <MichaelC> still happening but less often
18:20:21 <MichaelC> zakim, next item
18:20:21 <Zakim> agendum 3. "Travis-CI build failures" taken up [from MichaelC]
18:20:32 <MichaelC> Travis builds have been failing
18:20:42 <MichaelC> could be related to the respec load problem
18:20:55 <MichaelC> restarting build seems to help
18:20:58 <MichaelC> but just since Friday
18:21:48 <MichaelC> so the push build tends to fail, restart may work, sometimes a second restart needed
18:22:26 <MichaelC> we´ll try to get it fixed
18:22:58 <MichaelC> topic: Respec a11y
18:23:11 <MichaelC> when respec is building, should work on a node that isn´t displayed
18:23:24 <MichaelC> or just show ¨processing¨ rather than the content
18:23:46 <MichaelC> maybe Shane knows how to do this
18:24:09 <MichaelC> could file an issue with Respec https://github.com/w3c/respec/issues
18:25:14 <MichaelC> Matt to file cc Joanie who could help with duplicating issue for non-a11y people
18:25:46 <MichaelC> zakim, next item
18:25:46 <Zakim> agendum 4. "Update on common files repository" taken up [from MichaelC]
18:26:11 <MichaelC> https://github.com/w3c/aria-common
18:26:33 <MichaelC> testing submodule in CSS-AAM repo https://github.com/w3c/css-aam
18:27:08 <MichaelC> works on local machine
18:27:09 <MichaelC> but not rawgit
18:28:09 <MichaelC> we could abandon rawgit
18:28:27 <MichaelC> or try something else like subtree merge, which is messy
18:28:33 <MichaelC> this is holding up HTML-AAM
18:28:47 <MichaelC> and rest of repo split
18:29:05 <MichaelC> losing rawgit would be a problem
18:29:09 <joanie> +1 to keeping rawgit
18:30:45 <MichaelC> might work in gh-pages but we´d lose our static snapshots
18:31:10 <MichaelC> https://rawgit.com/w3c/css-aam/master/index.html
18:32:10 <MichaelC> example of trying to use the submodule
18:32:43 <MichaelC> zakim, next item
18:32:43 <Zakim> agendum 7. "Cleanup stuff migrated from repo" taken up [from MichaelC]
18:33:50 <MichaelC> for HTML-AAM, replaced the doc with a page that says ¨look elsewhere¨
18:33:51 <MichaelC> https://github.com/w3c/aria/blob/master/html-aam/html-aam.html
18:34:02 <MichaelC> did this in master and gh-pages
18:35:17 <MichaelC> for Practices follow this example
18:35:29 <MichaelC> but for the subfiles (examples), remove so they 404
18:35:31 <MichaelC> in both branches
18:36:35 <MichaelC> this approach seems ok
18:37:27 <MichaelC> there´s a meta refresh to the new location as well
18:37:47 <MichaelC> Matt to do for Practices
18:37:49 <MichaelC> zakim, next item
18:37:49 <Zakim> agendum 5. "AOB" taken up [from MichaelC]
18:37:57 <MichaelC> none
18:38:00 <MichaelC> zakim, close this item
18:38:00 <Zakim> agendum 5 closed
18:38:01 <Zakim> I see 1 item remaining on the agenda:
18:38:01 <Zakim> 6. Next Meeting [from MichaelC]
18:38:03 <MichaelC> zakm, next item
18:38:21 <MichaelC> Next meeting is in 3 weeks
18:38:26 <MichaelC> 7 December 2016
18:38:47 <MichaelC> rrsagent, make minutes
18:38:47 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/11/16-aria-editors-minutes.html MichaelC
19:21:37 <MichaelC> rrsagent, bye
19:21:37 <RRSAgent> I see no action items