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13:51:06 <Ian> agenda: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-payments-wg/2016Nov/0028.html
13:51:12 <Ian> Meeting: Payment Apps Task Force
13:51:14 <Ian> Chair: Ian
13:51:23 <Ian> Ian has changed the topic to: 16 Nov agenda https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-payments-wg/2016Nov/0028.html
13:51:36 <Ian> agenda+ upcoming meeting schedule
13:51:43 <Ian> agenda+ recent spec update
13:51:49 <Ian> agenda+ payment app pilots
13:51:52 <Ian> agenda+ filtering
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13:59:14 <Ian> present+ Ian
13:59:17 <Ian> present+ Tommy
13:59:22 <Ian> present+ Frank
13:59:26 <Ian> present+ Alan
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13:59:39 <Ian> present+ Michelle
13:59:47 <Ian> present+ Jenan
14:00:13 <Ian> agenda+ Meeting time
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14:00:51 <Ian> scribe: Ian
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14:02:01 <Ian> present+ Andre
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14:02:27 <jnormore> regrets+ jnormore
14:03:06 <Ian> present+ Rouslan
14:03:09 <Ian> zakim, who's here?
14:03:09 <Zakim> Present: Ian, Tommy, Frank, Alan, Michelle, Jenan, Andre, Rouslan
14:03:11 <Zakim> On IRC I see conorhwp, alyver, jenan, frank, mbu, TommyT, adamR, RRSAgent, Zakim, Ian, AdrianHB, Dongwoo
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14:03:27 <Ian> present+ Conor
14:03:49 <Ian> zakim, take up item 1
14:03:49 <Zakim> agendum 1. "upcoming meeting schedule" taken up [from Ian]
14:03:57 <Ian> Next call: 23 Nov
14:04:10 <Ian> IJ: regrets?
14:04:14 <Ian> zakim, close item 1
14:04:14 <Zakim> agendum 1, upcoming meeting schedule, closed
14:04:15 <Zakim> I see 4 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
14:04:15 <Zakim> 2. recent spec update [from Ian]
14:04:18 <Ian> zakim, take up item 2
14:04:18 <Zakim> agendum 2. "recent spec update" taken up [from Ian]
14:04:39 <Ian> Ian incorporated changes based on 2 November discussion:
14:04:39 <Ian>  https://github.com/w3c/webpayments-payment-apps-api/pull/68/commits/4081dde30422c6e519234ea8c0c6fa24ef03ad4a
14:04:39 <Ian> Updated text:
14:04:39 <Ian>  https://w3c.github.io/webpayments-payment-apps-api/#selectable-app-information-display
14:04:54 <Ian> IJ: Anybody look at those?
14:05:16 <Ian> zakim, close item 2
14:05:16 <Zakim> agendum 2, recent spec update, closed
14:05:17 <Zakim> I see 3 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
14:05:17 <Zakim> 3. payment app pilots [from Ian]
14:05:25 <Ian> zakim, take up item 3
14:05:25 <Zakim> agendum 3. "payment app pilots" taken up [from Ian]
14:05:38 <Ian> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-payments-wg/2016Nov/0031.html
14:05:49 <Ian> Conor: We met Monday - Conor Hackett, Rouslan Solomakhin, Tommy Thorsen, Dongwoo Im
14:05:58 <Ian> ...chatted about what's available in browsers to integrate to
14:06:26 <rouslan> q+
14:07:55 <Ian> ack rous
14:08:32 <Ian> Rouslan: We are developing support for payment apps; not done yet
14:08:39 <Ian> IJ: Android only?
14:08:42 <Ian> Rouslan: Both
14:09:06 <Ian> Conor: Basically next steps will be to develop a payment app using Chrome experimental build + web apps using service workers
14:09:17 <Ian> ...we discussed how we would work as a subgroup
14:09:24 <Ian> ...we'll work on the WG's public list
14:09:27 <Ian> [Ian: +1]
14:09:51 <Ian> Conor: Also, for Chrome to release info in a public build, they want to link to public information
14:10:07 <Ian> IJ: any other thoughts from people on the call?
14:10:42 <conorhwp> +q
14:10:43 <rouslan> q+
14:10:45 <Ian> ack con
14:11:03 <Ian> IJ: What spec issues are coming up from implementation attempts?
14:11:25 <Ian> Conor: I think Rouslan covered a lot in the integration of android apps.
14:11:36 <Ian> ack rouslan
14:12:02 <Ian> Rouslan: In the beginning of the development of web-based payment apps, the Samsung devs were contributing to Chromium; I am doing code reviews.
14:12:12 <Ian> ...I noticed that "icon" is a string. What is it meant to represent?
14:12:28 <Ian> ...we will coming back to the spec on what "icon" is and how that string should be intepreted?
14:13:46 <Ian> https://github.com/w3c/webpayments-payment-apps-api/issues/69
14:15:14 <rouslan> q+
14:15:36 <Ian> IJ: For new issues, use GitHub or send them to public-webpayments-wg@w3.org
14:15:40 <Ian> ack rouslan
14:16:19 <Ian> Rouslan: I think some of the issues that Samsung raised were about native apps; ok to use W3C GitHub?
14:16:20 <Ian> IJ: +1
14:17:48 <Ian> https://w3c.github.io/webpayments-payment-apps-api/
14:20:29 <rouslan> q+
14:20:38 <Ian> ack rouslan
14:20:53 <Ian> IJ: Any updates on UX issues for web-based payment apps?
14:21:09 <Ian> Rouslan: We still have questions and will do research; we will contribute ideas back to the payment apps api
14:21:36 <TommyT> q+
14:21:39 <Ian> ack tom
14:21:49 <Ian> TommyT: One small issue came up on Monday
14:21:53 <Ian> ...I'll add to GitHub
14:21:59 <Ian> ...it's about payment app identifiers
14:22:13 <Ian> ...if we want to do merchant-recommended payment apps, we need for merchants to recommend apps
14:22:19 <Ian> ...the spec says 'use payment app identifiers'
14:23:08 <Ian> ..but issue 35 says "scope" url should be payment app identifier
14:23:08 <Ian> https://w3c.github.io/webpayments-payment-apps-api/#set-manifest
14:24:47 <Ian> IJ: What are the big challenges ahead that people see, so that we can prioritize issues for this call?
14:25:14 <Ian> Rouslan: The whole project is challenging. :)
14:26:56 <Ian> Topic: Filtering
14:27:54 <Ian> https://w3c.github.io/webpayments-methods-card/#request
14:30:03 <Ian> [Ian does a quick summary]
14:32:09 <Ian> Alan: Are we looking at single functions or multiple?
14:32:16 <Ian> Ian: Have not discussed yet at that level of detail
14:32:42 <Ian> Alan: A use case that came to mind is recurring payments
14:32:54 <Ian> ...e.g., you might not want to take a card that has an expiration next month
14:34:59 <Ian> q?
14:35:14 <Ian> topic: Issues
14:35:15 <Ian> https://github.com/w3c/webpayments-payment-apps-api/issues
14:35:59 <Ian> IJ: Please put thoughts in GitHub
14:36:11 <Ian> Topic: next meeting
14:36:18 <Ian> zakim, close item 4
14:36:18 <Zakim> agendum 4, filtering, closed
14:36:19 <Zakim> I see 2 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
14:36:19 <Zakim> 3. payment app pilots [from Ian]
14:36:22 <Ian> zakim, close item 4
14:36:22 <Zakim> agendum 4, filtering, closed
14:36:23 <Zakim> I see 2 items remaining on the agenda; the next one is
14:36:23 <Zakim> 3. payment app pilots [from Ian]
14:36:23 <Ian> zakim, close item 3
14:36:24 <Zakim> agendum 3, payment app pilots, closed
14:36:24 <Zakim> I see 1 item remaining on the agenda:
14:36:24 <Zakim> 5. Meeting time [from Ian]
14:36:26 <Ian> zakim, take up item 5
14:36:26 <Zakim> agendum 5. "Meeting time" taken up [from Ian]
14:36:42 <Ian> https://github.com/w3c/webpayments/wiki/PaymentApp_Notes
14:37:56 <rouslan> +1
14:38:01 <jenan> +1
14:38:04 <conorhwp> +1
14:38:07 <alyver> 0
14:38:07 <Ian> Should we move the call later if we are not having colleagues dial in from Korea and China?
14:38:11 <TommyT> I can probably not make it if the call is later
14:38:29 <Ian> ACTION: Ian to look into modified call time
14:39:02 <Ian> rrsagent, make minutes
14:39:02 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/11/16-apps-minutes.html Ian
14:39:09 <Ian> rrsagent, set logs public
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