14:04:51 RRSAgent has joined #multimodal 14:04:51 logging to http://www.w3.org/2016/11/14-multimodal-irc 14:07:01 topic: actions 14:07:07 action-443 14:07:08 action-443 -- B Helena RODRIGUEZ to Write up the use case of millions of images from tpac and send to the group list -- due 2016-06-27 -- OPEN 14:07:08 https://www.w3.org/2002/mmi/Group/track/actions/443 14:07:16 ddahl: kind of old action 14:07:33 agenda: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/w3c-mmi-wg/2016Nov/0004.html 14:07:44 ... do you still want to finish that? 14:08:01 helena: working with github 14:08:21 ... not sure if the CMS works 14:08:38 ... taking the action items in order 14:08:59 ddahl: checking in something? 14:09:01 helena: yes 14:09:26 ... another question about the table for use case description 14:10:42 ddahl: we had another action item about the use case template, action-457 14:10:50 ... that would address the question 14:11:03 ... regarding action-443 itself, you're working on that? 14:11:07 helena: yes 14:11:08 action-454? 14:11:08 action-454 -- Deborah Dahl to Turn bullet list into text -- due 2016-09-05 -- OPEN 14:11:08 https://www.w3.org/2002/mmi/Group/track/actions/454 14:11:21 ddahl: had the above action item 14:11:24 ... working on that 14:11:32 ... one question about GitHub 14:11:51 ... can I commit my changes? 14:11:52 kaz:yes 14:11:58 s/yes/ yes/ 14:12:15 action-457? 14:12:15 action-457 -- Kazuyuki Ashimura to Make a strawman/template diagram for relationships between entities in a use case -- due 2016-10-10 -- OPEN 14:12:15 https://www.w3.org/2002/mmi/Group/track/actions/457 14:12:24 kaz: not yet done 14:13:11 ddahl: do you think we still need the table itself? 14:13:17 kaz: no, don't think so 14:13:46 ddahl: would be easier to handle the use case description 14:14:52 ... do you think you still need ACTION-457? 14:14:54 kaz: yes 14:15:09 action-458 14:15:09 action-458 -- B Helena RODRIGUEZ to Send wot person our vocabulary to get his comments and then we can reconcile our work with their work -- due 2016-10-24 -- OPEN 14:15:09 https://www.w3.org/2002/mmi/Group/track/actions/458 14:15:14 ... some simple diagram would make the description easier to under stand 14:15:43 helena: not yet done 14:15:54 ... need to send a message to Sebastian 14:18:36 kaz: fyi, the WoT IG is restarting use case discussion to clarify the requirements for the WoT scripting 14:19:16 ... so at some point, we should talk with Johannes as well 14:19:32 helena: ok 14:19:50 action-459 14:19:50 action-459 -- Kazuyuki Ashimura to Coordinate with helena about her library software for the github -- due 2016-10-31 -- OPEN 14:19:50 https://www.w3.org/2002/mmi/Group/track/actions/459 14:20:31 kaz: Helena is checking the W3C Software License 14:20:45 helena: looking at it 14:21:00 ... don't think would be problematic 14:21:09 ... the library is produced by me 14:22:15 dahl: if Helena is OK with the W3C Software License, need to put the license notation on the scri 14:22:20 s/scri/codes?/ 14:22:37 helena: yes, can put it within the codes and web pages 14:22:44 ... JS, PHP scripts 14:22:50 ... would be useful for people 14:22:58 s/dahl/ddahl/ 14:23:09 ddahl: would be great 14:23:46 helena: will check the code/header, etc. 14:23:55 action-460 14:23:55 action-460 -- Kazuyuki Ashimura to Update the wot/mmi relationship diagram -- due 2016-11-14 -- OPEN 14:23:55 https://www.w3.org/2002/mmi/Group/track/actions/460 14:24:16 -> https://www.w3.org/2002/mmi/kaz/images/MMI-as-UI-for-WoT.png updated diagram 14:25:17 kaz: added 3 updates 14:25:27 ... resource manager/resource description 14:26:34 ... rice cooker/air conditioner as examples of Things 14:27:30 ... two arrows: from MMI to WoT (WoT as a MC from MMI's viewpoint) and fromWoT to MMI (MMI as a Servient from WoT viewpoint) 14:27:43 ddahl: question about the protocol between MMI and WoT 14:28:25 debbie: can we annotate the diagram in Webex? 14:30:23 kaz: shares the image 14:32:44 ddahl: where Helena's vocabulary should go? 14:32:49 ... similar to the TD? 14:33:25 helena: Resource Manager just has index 14:34:37 ddahl: it would be interesting to put the data component 14:35:03 ... thought we had discussion the data component is part of the IM 14:35:14 helena: need its own box 14:36:37 kaz: what would we need to handle within the MMI world? 14:36:43 helena: high-level information 14:36:49 ... name, address, etc. 14:37:23 s/address/address, port 14:37:34 ... you can request detailed information 14:38:10 ddahl: MMI side could inquiry the TD about the detail 14:38:24 ... max/min temperature 14:38:44 helena: information of unit is important 14:39:31 ddahl: right. 70F is nice temperature (though 70C is terrible) 14:40:18 ... btw, regarding EMMA 14:40:28 ... wonder what that means 14:40:47 ... do we need EMMA there in this diagram? 14:41:09 ... EMMA is transfered between IM and MC 14:41:12 kaz: right 14:41:29 ddahl: so EMMA is too low level for this diagram 14:43:37 kaz: right 14:43:50 ... we should remove EMMA from this diagram itself 14:44:27 ... on the other hand, I've started to think that everything should be rather described as a service regardless of if it's a concrete device or software 14:44:33 ddahl: like that idea 14:44:59 helena: a service is a modality here 14:45:41 kaz: will update this diagram based on today's discussion 14:45:50 ddahl: ok 14:46:02 topic: Use Case GitHub 14:46:17 ddahl: need to accept Dirk's pull request 14:46:36 kaz: will skim his proposal and merge it 14:46:41 ddahl: ok 14:46:47 ... there is no conflict 14:46:57 topic: Charter 14:47:23 ddahl: the current Charter ends at the end of this year 14:48:19 ... can we publish documents now? 14:48:21 kaz: yes 14:48:43 ... there will be pub moratorium in December, though 14:49:20 ddahl: we have automatic publication system as well 14:49:22 kaz: yes 14:50:28 ... pub moratorium will be Dec 19-Jan 1 14:51:38 ddahl: we can publish an ordinary draft/note using the auto pub system 14:51:40 kaz: right 14:52:05 ddahl: other than the library, we need to update the draft as well 14:52:17 ... need to get the WG approval 14:53:11 kaz: do we still want to change the title/shortname for the note? 14:54:16 ... if we don't change title or shortname, we can simply add content, e.g., the vocabulary 14:55:52 -> https://www.w3.org/TR/mmi-discovery/ Discovery note 14:57:09 kaz: we want to change the title and make it "Discovery & Registration" instead of "Registration & Discovery". right? 14:57:56 s/mmi-discovery/mmi-mc-discovery/ 14:58:42 ddahl: the shortname should be ok if we add vocabulary section 14:58:44 kaz: yes 15:00:03 debbie: how about Discovery and Registration of Modality Components? 15:00:11 kaz: +1 15:00:26 +1 15:00:39 i/the shortname/ddahl: the updated WD's title is "Discovery&Registration" 15:00:51 ddahl: talk with PLH about the title change 15:00:55 kaz: will do 15:01:17 action: kaz to talk with plh about the change of the title for the discovery WD 15:01:17 Created ACTION-461 - Talk with plh about the change of the title for the discovery wd [on Kazuyuki Ashimura - due 2016-11-21]. 15:05:14 rrsagent, make log public 15:05:20 rrsagent draft minutes 15:05:25 Chair: Debbie 15:05:31 present: Debbie, Helena, Kaz 15:05:40 [ adjourned ] 15:06:09 rrsagent draft minutes 15:07:19 rrsagent, draft minutes 15:07:19 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/11/14-multimodal-minutes.html kaz 15:07:55 Meeting: MMI WG 15:07:58 rrsagent, draft minutes 15:07:58 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/11/14-multimodal-minutes.html kaz 15:17:17 rrsagent, stop