20:08:42 <RRSAgent> RRSAgent has joined #sdwcov
20:08:42 <RRSAgent> logging to http://www.w3.org/2016/11/09-sdwcov-irc
20:08:44 <trackbot> RRSAgent, make logs world
20:08:44 <Zakim> Zakim has joined #sdwcov
20:08:46 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be SDW
20:08:46 <Zakim> ok, trackbot
20:08:47 <trackbot> Meeting: Spatial Data on the Web Working Group Teleconference
20:08:47 <trackbot> Date: 09 November 2016
20:09:50 <kerry> present+ kerry
20:10:12 <billroberts> present+ billroberts
20:10:35 <roba> present+
20:10:42 <billroberts> the sound started working after you took over the host role
20:11:09 <billroberts> i.e. it allowed me to connect to the audio from my computer
20:11:39 <billroberts> strange - 'turn it off and on again' ??
20:12:58 <kerry> acribe: kerry
20:13:04 <kerry> scribe: kerry
20:13:13 <kerry> scribenick: kerry
20:13:33 <billroberts> https://www.w3.org/2016/10/26-sdwcov-minutes
20:13:54 <billroberts> Proposed: approve the minutes of last meeting
20:13:57 <billroberts> +1
20:14:03 <kerry> +1
20:14:07 <kerry> resolved: approve minutes
20:14:21 <kerry> topic: patent call
20:14:24 <billroberts> https://www.w3.org/2015/spatial/wiki/Patent_Call
20:14:37 <roba> +1
20:14:42 <billroberts> https://www.w3.org/2015/spatial/wiki/Meetings:Coverage-Telecon201611109
20:15:15 <billroberts> Dmitry said by mail "Nothing to report on eo-qb. Still on track for a draft at the end of November."
20:15:28 <kerry> topic: update on eo:qb
20:15:41 <kerry> topic: update on covjson: jihn sends apologies
20:15:50 <kerry> s/jihn/john/
20:16:06 <kerry> bill: docs are looking ok
20:19:02 <billroberts> kerry: feedback on draft documents can happen by email to the public list - for simple comments. For more substantial things, create an issue on the W3C Issue Tracker
20:19:15 <billroberts> ...then links to the W3C issues can be put into the draft document
20:20:17 <billroberts> kerry: Summarising activity from the ANU team (it's exam period at the moment).
20:20:42 <billroberts> ...Phil has reviewed and very keen to get the documents out
20:21:04 <billroberts> ...To get the documents out by end of the year, we need to vote on it by 14 December (or perhaps at the F2F meeting)
20:21:49 <billroberts> kerry: will do some substantial work on the docs from 18 November onwards.  It would be good to have a lot more detail on the example implementation
20:23:00 <billroberts> ...an issue to note is that it refers to QB4ST, which is actively evolving, so EO-QB may lag changes in QB4ST, but will be brought up to date intermittently
20:23:52 <billroberts> ...EO-QB makes use of SSN, OWL-Time and refers to BP
20:24:04 <billroberts> ...so it could perhaps be used in the BP examples
20:24:22 <billroberts> roba: the BP would prefer stable production examples where possible
20:24:48 <billroberts> Topic: QB4ST
20:24:55 <kerry> btopic: update on qb4st
20:24:56 <roba> http://w3c.github.io/sdw/qb4st/
20:25:00 <billroberts> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-sdw-wg/2016Nov/0019.html
20:25:06 <kerry> topic: update on qb4st
20:25:20 <kerry> roba: presented to sdw plenary
20:25:44 <kerry> .... not yet ready to identify substantive issues but am working through this
20:25:55 <kerry> ...chrislittle offered to havea good look
20:26:34 <kerry> billroberts:  agrees review by chtis would be helpful
20:26:49 <kerry> roba: addded a couple of fixes in recent days
20:27:15 <kerry> ...tried to explain where reasoning is useful
20:27:48 <kerry> ....want someone to shhow me an example of nexted features e.g. a dataset affregated by states and inside that by local authorities
20:28:01 <kerry> ...could then have a go at describing this formally
20:28:13 <kerry> s.affregated/aggregated/
20:28:32 <kerry> s/affregated/aggregated/
20:28:45 <kerry> ...hope to have draft state for Xmas
20:29:00 <kerry> ....even some comment on doc structure would be welcome
20:29:29 <kerry> billroberts:  anything else?
20:30:22 <kerry> roba: e.g. issues on how to use a crs reference by BP does not yet have a BP
20:30:39 <kerry> ...so I don't know how to do this bit
20:31:02 <kerry> ...once you provide metadata as BP says, but the question is how to do that
20:31:21 <kerry> q+
20:31:32 <billroberts> ack k
20:31:54 <billroberts> kerry: there are differences in opinion in the BP group on what constitutes a BP
20:32:21 <billroberts> ...and a decision that it is ok to include a 'recommendation' that may not yet be widely established practice
20:32:40 <billroberts> ...so there is an opportunity here to make a proposal to the BP group on what we should do
20:33:45 <kerry> roba: e.g. qb4st uses a text string for a CRS
20:33:55 <kerry> ... I am attempting to cover those basic use cases
20:34:02 <kerry> ....but we need consensus
20:34:31 <kerry> e.g. what URIs are used for our CRSs
20:34:40 <kerry> ...but where do you stop?
20:35:28 <billroberts> CovJSON: https://covjson.org/spec/#geospatial-coordinate-reference-systems
20:35:37 <billroberts> http://www.opengis.net/def/crs/OGC/1.3/CRS84
20:36:25 <roba> qb4st:crs  crs-ogc:CRS84, crs-epsg:4326 ;
20:36:25 <kerry> roba: had an example where I included both..
20:37:01 <kerry> ...so am consistent in terms of examples but ei-qb should be updated
20:38:32 <kerry> topic: f2f in london
20:39:03 <kerry> bill:  do we plan to vote on drafts?
20:39:12 <kerry> ....John and I cannot be there at the same time
20:39:19 <kerry> skJohn/Jon/
20:39:29 <kerry> s/John/jon/
20:39:34 <kerry> .... rob?
20:39:58 <kerry> roba: I will bein Europe on holiday but will try to doal in for critical times
20:40:07 <kerry> s/doal/dial/
20:40:13 <kerry> billroberts: good
20:40:57 <kerry> billroberts:  so we can have fpwd  *3 ready for meeting?
20:41:08 <kerry> ...let's do tat
20:41:13 <kerry> s/tat/that/
20:41:28 <kerry> roba: big question is whther anyone can work with implementations
20:41:40 <kerry> ....e.g. danh  was suggesting he could do this
20:43:49 <kerry> billroberts: will send an email to ad and kerry for agenda
20:47:11 <kerry> s/ad/ed/
20:47:29 <kerry> billroberts: AOB?
20:47:39 <billroberts> RRSAgent, draft minutes
20:47:39 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/11/09-sdwcov-minutes.html billroberts
20:48:10 <billroberts> https://www.w3.org/2015/spatial/track/
20:49:17 <kerry> billroberts: close meeting
20:49:20 <billroberts> bye!
20:49:39 <roba> bye
20:49:53 <kerry> bye!
22:40:03 <Zakim> Zakim has left #sdwcov