IRC log of auto on 2016-11-08
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- agenda: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-autowebplatform/2016Nov/0000.html
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- present+ Kaz_Ashimura, Paul_Boyes, Philippe_Robin, Rudi_Streif
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- present+ Ryan_Davis, Stacy_Janes
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- present+ Adam_Crofts
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- topic: tuner update
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- ryan: gives update
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- ... lot of use cases are similar
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- topic: VW proposal
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- paul: VW attended the f2f meeting in Burlingame and explained their proposal
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- ... Kevin sent a note
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- -> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-autowebplatform/2016Nov/0001.html Kevin's note
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- paul: any comments?
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- i/gives update/gives update on the TV Control WG's work/
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- topic: LBS
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- present+ Wonsuk_Lee
- 16:44:57 [kaz]
- philippe: Philippe Colliot is busy now
- 16:45:15 [kaz]
- ... btw, there is news on Toyota's announcement on vehicle connectivity
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- -> http://newsroom.toyota.co.jp/en/detail/14129306
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- pr: KDDI is mentioned here
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- paul: good to know
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- topic: Genivi security
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- rudi: mentions Genivi's security work
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- paul: opportunity to learn about security more?
- 16:48:33 [kaz]
- rudi: not completely open but there is a mailinglist
- 16:48:40 [kaz]
- ... and you can join it
- 16:49:40 [kaz]
- ... corporation address should be used instead of free mail address
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- topic: Geolocation API
- 16:50:37 [kaz]
- kaz: Edited REC has just been published
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- -> https://www.w3.org/TR/2016/REC-geolocation-API-20161108/ Geolocation API Edited REC
- 16:51:16 [kaz]
- topic: Redefining BG role
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- wonsuk: looking at the existing BG Charter, think we should update it
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- paul: should add LBS
- 16:52:28 [kaz]
- -> https://www.w3.org/community/autowebplatform/automotive-and-web-platform-business-group-charter/ BG Charter
- 16:52:32 [kaz]
- wonsuk: agree
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- paul: what else?
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- kaz: wondering about the media work
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- ... Ryan, is it OK to continue to work with the TV Control WG?
- 16:54:16 [kaz]
- ... they're removing "TV" from the API definition
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- ryan: OK with working with them
- 16:54:40 [kaz]
- ... automotive input
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- ... there is a lot of energy in that group
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- kaz: good
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- ... on the other hand, maybe at some point (not now) we should think about low-level websocket interface for media tuner and LBS as well
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- paul: btw, are rechartering the BG?
- 16:57:01 [kaz]
- wonsuk: we need to update the Charter
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- ... adding LBS, media tuner
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- ... input from VW as well
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- they have media portion as well
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- s/they/... they/
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- kaz: from the W3C process viewpoint, BGs don't have actual charter period
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- ... but the Charter wiki should be updated based on our work
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- wonsuk: right
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- ... new use cases as well
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- ... Paul, do you want to say something?
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- paul: agree
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- ... Ryan working on media tuner
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- ... Philippe Colliot and Qing An working on LBS
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- ... new proposal from VW
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- ... security is another big one
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- ... Genivi security by Stacy is good one
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- ... helpful for this group
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- ... device interaction as well
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- kaz: including bluetooth?
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- paul: will put the note from the previous meeting
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- kaz: the list from the Anaba meeting?
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- paul: yes
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- wonsuk: not sure if "device interaction" includes voice interaction
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- ... but there was interest in that
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- s/that/that as well/
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- ... voice interaction for driving
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- ... like Amazon echo
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- kaz: we had joint discussion with Glen shires from Google in Santa Clara
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- pr: if you want to get update on speech from Genivi, you should talk with Philippe Colliot
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- paul: ok
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- pr: Philippe is completing PoC by the end of year
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- paul: will send a list of collected topics
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- ... we should start media at next meeting
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- ... sounds good?
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- wonsuk: yes
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- ... one of the ideas I have is
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- ... how about making a TF for use cases?
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- ... keep discussion on use cases
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- ... what the industry situation is like
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- paul: good idea
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- ... e.g., for payments
- 17:10:22 [kaz]
- ... anything about IoT would be related to automotive
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- ... communication with traffic company should be also important
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- ... should discuss what kind of capability is required
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- ... based on use cases
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- ... VSS is a good example, media tuner is another good example
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- kaz: during the Paris meeting, Urata-san and Hira-san mentioned they organized a hackathon using the vehicle api
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- ... that event included several interesting use cases
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- wonsuk: can dig the resource about that?
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- kaz: will do
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- wonsuk: can we put all the information together?
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- paul: we should do that
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- kaz: we can start with wiki?
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- paul: think so
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- ... mailing list as well
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- ... will take an action item to send the topic list
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- ... everybody wants VSS and the BG should be complementary to the WG
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- wonsuk: we have previous use cases and we can revisit them as well
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- ... also can get new use cases
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- ... should think about what actual industry use cases are
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- wonsuk: in case of the media stuff, there are existing Web services like podcast
- 17:22:03 [kaz]
- ... would be beneficial for the media tuner capability
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- paul: sounds good
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- ... we should start larger group discussion
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- ... you and I should coordinate with each other
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- ... Genivi guys as well
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- ... should I send an email to the BG?
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- wonsuk: yes, please
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- paul: ok
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- ... please respond, everybody
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