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15:46:42 <keiji> Meeting: PING 2016 Nov 3rd (Monthly Meeting for October)
15:47:16 <keiji> RRSagent, make minutes
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15:55:07 <keiji> agenda:https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-privacy/2016OctDec/0025.html
15:55:43 <keiji> agenda: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-privacy/2016OctDec/0025.html
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16:00:49 <tara> Giving people a few minutes to join...
16:01:17 <npdoty> present+ npdoty
16:02:03 <tara> May be true, yes!
16:02:04 <christine> Hi. I can't seem to get on to webex. Let me try again.
16:02:14 <tara> Fingers crossed...
16:02:53 <npdoty> agenda: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-privacy/2016OctDec/0025.html
16:03:23 <keiji> https://mit.webex.com/mit/j.php?MTID=m3d677d065fb1de94abe7949fe027b5a4
16:03:35 <christine> Made it
16:06:13 <wseltzer> present+ wseltzer
16:07:49 <tara> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-privacy/2016OctDec/0003.html
16:08:01 <tara> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-privacy/2016OctDec/0015.html
16:09:27 <tara> Audio Output Device deadline - Nov 11.
16:09:39 <npdoty> and has received some substantial responses on the mailing list already
16:09:53 <npdoty> no specific deadline expressed yet re: Web Payments and user consent
16:10:10 <adrianba> I don't think we have a specific deadline
16:10:16 <npdoty> tara will follow up with Web Payments
16:10:18 <adrianba> other than we're trying to lock down the spec for CR
16:10:30 <npdoty> adrianba, just general guidance about a timeline then would be useful
16:10:40 <npdoty> as in, this month? next quarter?
16:10:49 <adrianba> we were aiming to review getting to CR around now-ish
16:11:12 <adrianba> but we still have some technical things to look at
16:11:48 <npdoty> next call December 1?
16:13:46 <christine> great
16:14:54 <adrianba> npdoty, I think it would be helpful to cross of the user consent issue this quarter
16:15:24 <adrianba> having been involved in a group where user consent caused a few issues, my preference is that we don't try going to far down the road of defining it :)
16:16:04 <keiji> RRSagent, make minutes
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16:16:19 <npdoty> adrianba, have you gotten useful feedback in the thread on the public-privacy list?
16:17:13 <keiji> chair: tara
16:17:21 <keiji> RRSagent, make minutes
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16:17:29 <christine> ?quit
16:17:57 <adrianba> not really, it was pretty generic and seemingly without a real appreciation for the way the API works
16:18:09 <keiji> RRSAgent, make logs public
16:19:35 <adrianba> in the spec, we say that user consent is required before sharing user's information with a site
16:19:56 <adrianba> then we're proposing text to say that we don't define precisely what user consent needs to look like from a UX perspective
16:20:03 <adrianba> this is the text we were looking for feedback on
16:21:45 <npdoty> I think sometimes reviewers don't like looking only at a single section if they think issues are more holistic
16:22:24 <adrianba> sure, but if you do that then you need to review the interactions in the spec and provide concrete feedback with the appropriate context
16:22:28 <adrianba> I don't object to that
16:22:41 <adrianba> but high level generic feedback doesn't help us make progress unfortunately
16:22:55 <keiji> npdoty yes
16:23:05 <npdoty> RRSAgent, bye
16:23:05 <RRSAgent> I see no action items