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16:37:48 <Lisa_Seeman> trackbot, start meeting
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16:37:52 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be 2642
16:37:52 <Zakim> ok, trackbot
16:37:53 <trackbot> Meeting: Cognitive Accessibility Task Force Teleconference
16:37:53 <trackbot> Date: 20 October 2016
16:40:14 <Lisa_Seeman> agenda: this
16:40:16 <Lisa_Seeman> agenda+  review SC, and timelines and status table. Reassigning any SC without a committed date
16:40:17 <Lisa_Seeman> Links: sc todo list: https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/wiki/SC_todo_list,
16:40:19 <Lisa_Seeman> sc stasus: https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/extension/status.html,
16:40:20 <Lisa_Seeman> rewording https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/extension/rewroded%20sc%203.html
16:40:22 <Lisa_Seeman> agenda+ review sc wording to get to pending   https://docs.google.com/document/d/1DHoA9fQRsNtfrhxpf-HGVzbNpe6KUxv-cgxY6NM4mGI/edit#heading=h.t016unhn4rgp
16:40:23 <Lisa_Seeman> agenda+ the google doc, on difficulties in our process https://docs.google.com/document/d/1bxhXLpsqIy5p6zZHxlsSvjmhUjFqSFGCgE4eelRJxH8/edit#heading=h.yp16qowqoxpn
16:40:25 <Lisa_Seeman> agenda+ be done
16:41:26 <Lisa_Seeman> regrets Janina , kurt
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16:51:44 <Lisa_Seeman> regrets Janina , kurt, EA (late, Ayelet
16:51:52 <Lisa_Seeman> regrets Janina , kurt, EA (late), Ayelet
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17:00:56 <Lisa_Seeman> zakim, next item
17:00:56 <Zakim> agendum 1. "review SC, and timelines and status table. Reassigning any SC without a committed date" taken up [from Lisa_Seeman]
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17:01:23 <Lisa_Seeman> https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/extension/status.html,
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17:03:03 <maryjom> present+ MaryJo
17:03:20 <Lisa_Seeman> scribe: Mike_Pluke
17:03:32 <Lisa_Seeman> https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/extension/status.html
17:04:13 <Lisa_Seeman> https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/extension/visually-clear-controls.html
17:04:54 <Mike_Pluke> Received a visually clear controls submission (from Mary Jo)
17:06:03 <Lisa_Seeman> action: lisa to follow up wit anyone who has not submitted at least a draft
17:06:03 <trackbot> Created ACTION-182 - Follow up wit anyone who has not submitted at least a draft [on Lisa Seeman - due 2016-10-27].
17:06:10 <kirkwood> present+ kirkwood
17:07:41 <Mike_Pluke> present+ Mike Pluke
17:07:43 <Lisa_Seeman> zakim, next item
17:07:43 <Zakim> agendum 2. "review sc wording to get to pending   https://docs.google.com/document/d/1DHoA9fQRsNtfrhxpf-HGVzbNpe6KUxv-cgxY6NM4mGI/edit#heading=h.t016unhn4rgp" taken up [from
17:07:47 <Zakim> ... Lisa_Seeman]
17:08:13 <Lisa_Seeman> https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/extension/visually-clear-controls.html
17:08:59 <Mike_Pluke> Mary Jo and Lisa to discuss changes to visually clear controls
17:11:25 <Lisa_Seeman> https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/extension/safety2.html
17:12:58 <Mike_Pluke> Mike has not added comments to all of the SCs - but will complete very soon
17:13:17 <Lisa_Seeman> https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/extension/safety2.html
17:19:19 <Mike_Pluke> Discussion of "safety" SC triggered by Mike's comments
17:19:40 <Mike_Pluke> Mary Jo querying what we mean by harm.
17:22:14 <Mike_Pluke> Lisa suggests it can include, physical, financial, legal or mental harm.
17:22:50 <Mike_Pluke> Mike proposes that we should attempt to define "harm"
17:25:02 <Lisa_Seeman> resolution? 48 hours is enough to aprove second round changes
17:25:04 <Lisa_Seeman> +1
17:25:05 <Mike_Pluke> Lisa added, in the Google doc, actions she will take prior to a 48 hour approval.
17:25:08 <Mike_Pluke> +1
17:27:16 <kirkwood> +1
17:28:01 <Lisa_Seeman> resolution 48 hours is enough to approve second round changes
17:28:24 <Lisa_Seeman> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1DHoA9fQRsNtfrhxpf-HGVzbNpe6KUxv-cgxY6NM4mGI/edit#
17:29:21 <janina> present+ Janina
17:29:39 <Lisa_Seeman> https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/extension/consistent-navigation.html
17:30:23 <Lisa_Seeman> jaina will get Sc out first week november
17:30:36 <Mike_Pluke> Janina's work will be available first week in November.
17:30:50 <janina> https://www.fcc.gov/cgb-releases-white-paper-access-issues-information-and-communication-technologies-people-cognitive
17:31:12 <Lisa_Seeman> https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/extension/consistent-navigation.html
17:32:48 <Lisa_Seeman> action: lisa mike and mary jo review https://www.fcc.gov/cgb-releases-white-paper-access-issues-information-and-communication-technologies-people-cognitive
17:32:48 <trackbot> Created ACTION-183 - Mike and mary jo review https://www.fcc.gov/cgb-releases-white-paper-access-issues-information-and-communication-technologies-people-cognitive [on Lisa Seeman - due 2016-10-27].
17:34:18 <Mike_Pluke> Several people have looked at an earlier version of the FCC white paper on cognitive accessibility - the general conclusion is that it has less content than our work.
17:34:33 <Lisa_Seeman> https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/extension/consistent-navigation.html
17:34:56 <Mike_Pluke> Janina has informed them of our work - they were glad that it is happening.
17:37:07 <Mike_Pluke> Thaddeus suggested adding "unless initiated by the user" to conformance - Lisa proposed that we do that - no objections.
17:37:40 <Lisa_Seeman> https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/extension/user-information.html
17:41:04 <Mike_Pluke> Mike's comment on "User-information" in the Google Doc was discussed
17:41:09 <Lisa_Seeman> Don’t store user personal information that could be used to harm a user, without being very careful to minimise any risk to the user.
17:41:41 <Lisa_Seeman> mike is now comfortable
17:41:47 <Mike_Pluke> Lisa's text above is a response to that comment - and Mike is OK with that.
17:41:56 <Lisa_Seeman> does anyone mind adding this to the discription
17:42:01 <kirkwood> +1
17:42:30 <maryjom> +1
17:45:01 <Mike_Pluke> Lisa will review (and probably add) the links that Thaddeus included in his comment on "User information"
17:45:57 <Mike_Pluke> Everyone should continue to look through the SC that are up for review (in the Google Doc)
17:46:14 <kirkwood> will do
17:46:25 <Lisa_Seeman> zakim, next item
17:46:25 <Zakim> agendum 3. "the google doc, on difficulties in our process https://docs.google.com/document/d/1bxhXLpsqIy5p6zZHxlsSvjmhUjFqSFGCgE4eelRJxH8/edit#heading=h.yp16qowqoxpn" taken up
17:46:28 <Zakim> ... [from Lisa_Seeman]
17:49:21 <Lisa_Seeman> zakim, next item
17:49:21 <Zakim> agendum 4. "be done" taken up [from Lisa_Seeman]
17:49:22 <Mike_Pluke> If people agree with Lisa's comments in the process difficulties document then just say that you agree - don't reiterate the details.
17:51:06 <Mike_Pluke> Agenda finished - EARLY!!!
17:51:27 <Lisa_Seeman> rrsagent, make logs public
17:51:36 <Lisa_Seeman> rrsagent, create minutes
17:51:36 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/10/20-coga-minutes.html Lisa_Seeman
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