14:00:09 RRSAgent has joined #wcag-act 14:00:09 logging to http://www.w3.org/2016/10/19-wcag-act-irc 14:00:11 RRSAgent, make logs public 14:00:13 Zakim, this will be 14:00:13 I don't understand 'this will be', trackbot 14:00:14 Meeting: Accessibility Conformance Testing Teleconference 14:00:14 Date: 19 October 2016 14:00:38 present: Wilco, Shadi 14:01:47 present+ 14:03:22 https://www.w3.org/2002/09/wbs/93339/availability/ 14:04:32 maryjom has joined #wcag-act 14:05:55 present+ Mary Jo 14:09:05 zakim, next item 14:09:05 agendum 2. "OAA Ruleset model" taken up [from Wilco] 14:09:22 zakim, take up 1 14:09:22 I don't understand 'take up 1', Wilco 14:09:35 zakim, item 1 14:09:35 I don't understand 'item 1', Wilco 14:09:48 zakim, take up item 1 14:09:48 agendum 1. "ACT Framework Req reviews" taken up [from Wilco] 14:10:37 wilco: There were a couple of responses on the ACT Framework Requirements reviews. 14:10:53 Charu: Thinks it looks clear and crisp and everyone has captured the points. 14:11:47 cpandhi_ has joined #wcag-act 14:12:38 wilco: Mary Jo and Jemma made comments. Updates have been made and will check with Jemma to make sure the updates address her comments. 14:13:08 Shadi: Will work on some editorial changes, but nothing substantive. 14:13:52 Wilco: We are pretty well on schedule and will try to get approval to send it off to the WCAG working group in about a week once the editorial edits are complete. 14:14:32 Shadi: Today we should give the WCAG WG chairs a heads-up that we plan to send to them next week or give them a date when we want approval so they can plan. 14:14:48 Wilco: Next thing to work on is the first draft. 14:16:05 Wilco: First draft of the spec typically starts of with an empty draft or template with the chapters or an outline defined. 14:16:59 Shadi: In the skeleton document, also add editor notes for each section to show the thoughts of the editor on the contents of each section. 14:18:02 Shadi: We are trying to find additional people to get involved and help with our TF work. 14:18:39 scribe: maryjom 14:18:51 cpandhi has joined #wcag-act 14:20:48 https://github.com/auto-wcag/auto-wcag/blob/master/_rules/SC1-1-1-aria-describedby.md 14:21:27 shadi: ARIA 1.1 had an aria-describedby (one of the test ruled developed by auto-wcag) which had automatic steps and semi-automatic steps. Some tests are non-trivial and more sophisticated. We can use it as an example to start with so TF members know what kinds of things should be addressed. 14:22:08 https://www.w3.org/community/auto-wcag/wiki/Test_template 14:22:40 Shadi: The above link is a description of the format and template 14:23:50 https://github.com/WilcoFiers/auto-wcag/blob/934edd172b416367584008ff4ee5af09d058bed1/pages/rule-template.md 14:24:16 wilco: The above link is an updated version of the template. 14:25:29 shadi: This template could be an appendix in the spec or a side-document that goes with the spec. Every part of the template will need a description of the expected format, such as the format of the date and so forth. 14:26:32 shadi: In the description there should be some specific points included, such as the specific part of the WCAG specification. It should also include the functional requirements for clarity, etc. 14:27:34 wilco: Not sure how you would reference the criteria. There's more to it than simply the WCAG SC. It may be applicable to multiple standards. 14:28:25 shadi: Would have to check how EARL handles that. 14:29:25 charu: We have all of the programmatic rules, but we don't have an verbal description of all of the rules. 14:30:15 shadi: One requirement we have is to try to be as open as possible so people can easily port and not make a lot of changes to their own rules. 14:31:42 charu: Can provide a generic description for how our rules are written 14:32:21 wilco: Can also do that for AXE so we can compare notes. 14:33:06 action: Wilco to create a plain English description of axe rule structure 14:33:06 Created ACTION-8 - Create a plain english description of axe rule structure [on Wilco Fiers - due 2016-10-26]. 14:34:10 action: Charu to create a plain English description of DAP rule structure 14:34:11 Created ACTION-9 - Create a plain english description of dap rule structure [on Charu Pandhi - due 2016-10-26]. 14:34:32 shadi: There is typically a status of this document section at the beginning of a draft where we communicate with the reader that this is a first draft outline and we are looking for other formats as an editor note in the introduction. 14:36:10 wilco: EPUB rules work has not been started. 14:36:15 zakim, next item 14:36:15 agendum 2. "OAA Ruleset model" taken up [from Wilco] 14:36:25 https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wcag-act/2016Oct/0017.html 14:37:19 wilco: Gemma sent us the above note (see link) on the Open Ajax Alliance ruleset. It doesn't have information on the specific procedure. 14:37:58 wilco: It also has some things that we don't have listed in our auto-wcag rules. 14:39:04 wilco: Element or page level information doesn't exist in auto-wcag rules. 14:39:45 shadi: The results are also different. 14:40:54 wilco: The unique thing about auto-wcag descriptions is that it is only a procedural desription which was something that caused fairly complex test procedures which Alistair had commented on. 14:41:53 the tools are respec or bikeshed 14:42:12 zakim, next item 14:42:12 agendum 3. "action items" taken up [from Wilco] 14:42:12 exactly! thanks romain! 14:42:29 https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/task-forces/conformance-testing/track/actions/open 14:42:42 shadi: Above tools will help in the development of the draft spec. 14:42:53 https://www.w3.org/Guide/ 14:44:04 Charu: Action 4 on reviewing Alistair's input is still in progress. 14:45:19 rssagent, make minutes 14:46:46 rrsagent, make minutes 14:46:46 I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/10/19-wcag-act-minutes.html maryjom 14:47:45 https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/task-forces/conformance-testing/wiki/Scribing_Instructions 15:08:10 jemma_ has joined #wcag-act