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16:48:42 <trackbot> Meeting: Cognitive Accessibility Task Force Teleconference
16:48:42 <trackbot> Date: 06 October 2016
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16:50:00 <Lisa_Seeman> agenda+ update scedules : todo list: https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/wiki/SC_todo_list, sc stasus: https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/extension/status.html, rewording https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/extension/rewroded%20sc%203.html
16:50:02 <Lisa_Seeman> agenda+ review sc wording to get to pending See sc stasus: https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/extension/status.html
16:50:03 <Lisa_Seeman> agenda+ the google doc, on difficulties in our process
16:50:05 <Lisa_Seeman> agenda+ be done
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17:01:41 <KurtM> Present KurtM
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17:04:49 <Lisa_Seeman> scribe: kirkwood
17:05:02 <Lisa_Seeman> zakim, next item
17:05:02 <Zakim> agendum 1. "update scedules : todo list: https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/wiki/SC_todo_list, sc stasus: https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/extension/status.html,
17:05:05 <Zakim> ... rewording https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/extension/rewroded%20sc%203.html" taken up [from Lisa_Seeman]
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17:05:56 <kirkwood> LS: to have a draft of all success criteria for today, some have done, some haven't managed
17:06:22 <kirkwood> LS: either need to reassign or delivery dates
17:06:33 <kirkwood> Janina: I will work with you but haven't done one
17:06:43 <kirkwood> LS: I will work with you
17:07:11 <kirkwood> LS: Maybe on monday have a call go over together
17:07:11 <janina> scribe:
17:07:15 <janina> scribe: janina
17:07:19 <janina> present+ janina
17:07:19 <kirkwood> thanks.
17:07:30 <kirkwood> Present+ kirkwood
17:07:35 <JohnRochford> present+ JohnRochford
17:07:41 <janina> lisa: Offering to work with Janina on assigned SC
17:08:05 <JohnRochford> present+ KurtM
17:08:10 <JohnRochford> present+ maryjom
17:08:11 <janina> lisa: Notes WCAG has set deadline of 1 September for any candidate SC
17:08:27 <JohnRochford> present+ Mike_Pluke
17:08:49 <janina> s/September/December/
17:10:26 <janina> lisa: This present+ Thaddeus
17:10:26 <JohnRochford> present+ Thaddeus
17:11:23 <janina> lisa: Inviting anyone to an informal SC writing session Monday the 11th at the usual COGA hour
17:12:08 <JohnRochford> s/11/10
17:13:28 <EA> Can I record thanks to Thad and John for checking my SCs and Thad and I will catch up soon.
17:14:22 <JohnRochford> present+ EA
17:15:25 <janina> lisa: Notes Thaddeus has several, but expect to finish drafts over the weekend
17:17:35 <janina> lisa: Checking status with EA -- One ready, one needing additional review from Lisa, Thaddeus
17:18:39 <janina> lisa: Asks EA whether she can take one more
17:19:49 <janina> ea: Issue was testing, couldn't figure that it was testable
17:19:56 <janina> ea: Happy to say what the issues are ...
17:21:19 <EA> It is cutting out sadly
17:22:30 <janina> lisa: Looking at testability and benefits section ....
17:22:50 <janina> lisa: Trying to redo the section
17:23:17 <janina> lisa: Propose to do a basic draft for review -- Asking John R?
17:23:42 <janina> john: Fine
17:24:29 <janina> ea: Still having trouble with audio ...
17:24:44 <janina> ea: Happy to review a draft
17:25:03 <janina> ea: Better a direct email over a github uri
17:25:53 <janina> lisa: Mike's are both finished ...
17:26:20 <janina> lisa: I'll ping everyone I can before Monday on remaining open items
17:26:56 <janina> lisa: Looking for volunteers able to do an extra one ...
17:27:04 <janina> lisa: Thanks, Curt and Mike!
17:28:04 <janina> zakim, next item
17:28:04 <Zakim> agendum 2. "review sc wording to get to pending See sc stasus: https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/extension/status.html" taken up [from Lisa_Seeman]
17:28:04 <Lisa_Seeman> zakim, next item
17:28:07 <Zakim> agendum 2 was just opened, Lisa_Seeman
17:28:31 <janina> lisa: There a couple needing approval ...
17:31:47 <janina> lisa: Asking about how to get approvals
17:31:58 <janina> janina; Recommending a formal "Call for Consensus" email process
17:32:18 <Lisa_Seeman> conesesus on  	https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/extension/minimize-errors.html
17:33:17 <janina> lisa: The more people look at it the better -- because they do find issues to address
17:34:00 <janina> lisa: Still wondering whether the benefit section is sufficient
17:34:59 <janina> Mike: Like the second, but wording could be better
17:36:26 <janina> Mike: Key word is "reliable"
17:37:14 <janina> [wordsmithing in progress]
17:38:47 <janina> ea: Notes other wording errors ...
17:41:01 <janina> lisa: Asking whether Mike can take on editing the wording ...
17:41:15 <janina> [crickets]
17:41:39 <janina> ea: Confused by "need to minimize errors" -- Do we mean "error notifications?"
17:41:55 <janina> ea: The former is a given
17:42:44 <janina> Mike: Believe so. Intent would be to auto correct what can reliably be corrected, but then not to overburden with notifications
17:43:39 <EA> Disabilities that effects executive function and decision making should be Disabilities that affect executive function and decision making
17:45:06 <EA> This Success Criterion helps users who need help preventing errors  could be This Success Criterion supports users who need help with error prevention
17:47:19 <janina> ea: Suggests assertions of giving up over too many errors should be documented with citations
17:47:43 <janina> ea: We should claim evidence only when we have it
17:47:47 <janina> Mike: Agree
17:48:52 <kirkwood> agree
17:51:11 <janina> lisa: First set of bullets are really techniques, so I'll move them
17:52:53 <janina> EA: Can do
17:52:56 <janina> Mike: Likewise
17:53:11 <janina> lisa: Let's look at one more ...
17:53:24 <Lisa_Seeman> lhttps://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/extension/timed-events.html
17:53:28 <janina> Lisa: "Time Events"
17:59:25 <Lisa_Seeman> q?
17:59:38 <janina> Mike: Believe 30 minutes is reasonable, but we may need to defend
18:00:19 <janina> John: Suggesting some reordering
18:00:35 <janina> john: Should be informed of time out limites up top, before the clock kicks in
18:00:40 <janina> Mike: Agree
18:01:44 <janina> John: Especially if filling out a form!
18:03:37 <janina> Curt: Also should note to be aware that anything filled in will be preserved and not lost over a time out
18:03:45 <janina> lisa: Will add to the beginning
18:04:53 <janina> Curt: Good with this one -- other than perhaps a time frame definition
18:05:38 <janina> zakim, bye
18:05:38 <Zakim> leaving.  As of this point the attendees have been janina, kirkwood, JohnRochford, KurtM, maryjom, Mike_Pluke, Thaddeus, EA
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18:05:45 <janina> rrsagent, make minutes
18:05:45 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/10/06-coga-minutes.html janina