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16:56:21 <clapierre1> ScribeNick: clapierre1
16:56:33 <clapierre1> Chair: clapierre
16:56:42 <clapierre1> Meeting: Accessibility DPUB Task Force Weekly Meeting
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17:01:01 <clapierre1> present+ Charles LaPierre
17:02:01 <clapierre1> regrets+ Tzviya
17:06:32 <clapierre1> present+ George_Kerscher
17:07:05 <clapierre1> Topic #1 struggling blind artist
17:07:14 <clapierre1> https://github.com/w3c/dpub-pwp-ucr/issues/102
17:08:14 <clapierre1> Matt had a suggestion:
17:08:53 <clapierre1> From Github… "James, a musician, requires that the musical score within a publication come preformatted in braille music notation in order to read it, as he uses freely available assistive technology which does not have braille music translations built in."
17:09:46 <clapierre1> George: this is a perfect example of an extended description.
17:11:07 <clapierre1> … its not multi-media
17:18:57 <clapierre1> … complex content eg: music notation, or mathematics and there is on-the-fly braille translations would not handle this content therefor an extended description with pre formatted  braille would be needed.
17:21:20 <clapierre1> Charles: adding matt's music text to the use-case.
17:21:26 <clapierre1> George: fine the way it is.
17:22:36 <clapierre1> Charles: Matt wrote the following… You might generalize the focus on audio/video/graphics so it's less at odds with the braille cases. I'm not sure what to say about "must be treated with the same attention as all other content", except that it would probably help to tighten to a more actionable statement.
17:35:41 <clapierre1> Charles: This is our new suggestion "All concepts and structures related to a PWP should
17:35:41 <clapierre1>             enable the creation and/or production of alternative
17:35:41 <clapierre1>             renderings for visual and auditory content."
17:37:17 <clapierre1> Topic #4 Building a Custom PWP
17:37:29 <clapierre1> https://github.com/w3c/dpub-pwp-ucr/issues/134
17:43:49 <clapierre1> Charles: this is to create a custom pwp , without video or audio or images which a user can't consume.
17:44:39 <clapierre1> George: someone wants a custom reading experience without images.  so  a custom PWP is created without those image files, but include the alt text or extended descriptions would be include in its place.
17:45:25 <clapierre1> Charles: new title "Building a Custom Reading Experience"
17:49:15 <clapierre1> George: this seems like a candidate for removal "Smitha has limited hand mobility, and controls her e-reader by voice.
17:49:15 <clapierre1>                She subscribes to her monthly comics online. The comics contain
17:49:15 <clapierre1>                interactive dialogue sections where, instead of advancing pages the a
17:49:15 <clapierre1>                more conventional method, readers click-and-drag the panels around the
17:49:17 <clapierre1>                page. The fallback method to make this accessible is the more
17:49:17 <clapierre1>                conventional page-turning method. Smitha wants to download her monthly
17:49:17 <clapierre1>                comics in the smaller fallback format, rather than download the to-her
17:49:18 <clapierre1>                unusable packages which she is then required to individually
17:49:18 <clapierre1>                reconfigure."
17:51:44 <clapierre1> Topic: #3 Accessibility
17:52:00 <clapierre1> https://github.com/w3c/dpub-pwp-ucr/issues/133
17:55:55 <clapierre1> Charles: Avneesh said "Avneesh:
17:55:55 <clapierre1> I will recommend to generalize the screen reader instead of placing it in parenthesis.
17:55:55 <clapierre1> "Ferdous wants to buy a book about a museum exhibit, but before he does that, he wants to guarantee that the images are associated with detailed text descriptions, to ensure that he will be able to understand it with a screen reader or refreshable Braille display.""
17:56:02 <clapierre1> George: this looks good.
17:56:28 <clapierre1> Charles: Romain Said "Alejandra cannot use a mouse and needs to ensure that the equation editors in her textbook is operable with a keyboard before she purchases the textbook.
17:58:16 <clapierre1> George: So this is a WCAG 1.0 req. alternative mouse to keyboard is a WCAG-A.  this could be needs to be able to discover that this publication conforms to Single A.
17:59:57 <clapierre1> … pwp needs to include metadata on the WCAG 2.0 A compliance.
18:00:37 <clapierre1> Charles: we will come back to this one.
18:02:03 <clapierre1> GitHub Romain:
18:02:03 <clapierre1> A university professor is developing a course and the professor knows that he is required by the university's policy to use digital materials that conform to WCAG 2.0 level AA. The professor uses the search capabilities of available publications to determine which titles are conformant and therefore suitable for his use.
18:02:03 <clapierre1> Avneesh:
18:02:03 <clapierre1> Your logic looks good. I am confused about the following line, it looks that there is a missing piece here.
18:02:05 <clapierre1> "The professor uses the search capabilities of available publications to determine which titles are conformant and therefore suitable for his use.
18:02:40 <clapierre1> George: this is a great use-case. since no professor can find an accessible publication  currently.
18:03:57 <clapierre1> Charles: maybe the issue is the searching from the web or a Library?
18:10:03 <clapierre1> George: Ferdous wants to buy a book, we won't talk about a screen reader that the images of the exhibit are accessible.
18:12:05 <clapierre1> Charles, right we may have the issue with LD person who wants the alternative text as well.
18:12:38 <clapierre1> George: right Avneesh is on the right track.  That the images and the videos about the exhibit meet WCAG accessibility requirements.
18:18:42 <clapierre1> … "Ferdous wants to buy a book about a museum exhibit, but before he does that, he wants to guarantee that the images and videos about the exhibits, have detailed descriptions, to ensure that he will be able to read it with a screen reader or refreshable Braille display."
18:27:49 <clapierre1> Charles: I think I am done for today, we are already 20+ minutes over, I will gather our suggestions and update the various issues.
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