IRC log of multimodal on 2016-09-20

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RRSAgent, make logs member
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Zakim, this will be MMI
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Meeting: Multimodal Interaction Working Group Teleconference
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Date: 20 September 2016
10:41:07 [Zakim]
ok, trackbot
11:01:55 [helena]
question to kaz: in the table "functions of object" in the template, what are Fuctions of Objects Track and Accountability for?
11:02:33 [kaz]
(sorry but taking notes at auto; will respond later)
11:02:54 [helena]
ok great
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11:11:05 [ddahl]
(updating use case document)
11:12:17 [kaz]
action: kaz to clarify in the table "functions of object" what Fuctions of Objects Track and Accountability are for
11:12:17 [trackbot]
Created ACTION-455 - Clarify in the table "functions of object" what fuctions of objects track and accountability are for [on Kazuyuki Ashimura - due 2016-09-27].
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14:03:46 [kaz]
helena?
14:04:03 [helena]
Hi kaz
14:04:28 [helena]
we were in the cognitive TF meeting
14:04:35 [helena]
now we are in our room
14:04:41 [kaz]
ok
14:04:43 [helena]
with the WoT people
14:04:47 [kaz]
ok
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will be there in a few min
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mins
14:05:06 [helena]
great
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topic: joint meeting with WoT
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ddahl: explains what the MMI Architecture is like
14:12:07 [kaz]
... the Interaction Manager works with various Modality Components like speech, emotion recognition, ink capture
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... communicate with user for WoT
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... there is another component named Resource Manager
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... responsible to maintain the state of the resources
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... manage their capabilities
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... shows another diagram
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... with a rice cooker
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(green picture)
14:17:36 [kaz]
helena: UPnP itself doesn't provide device capability information
14:18:58 [kaz]
... we were thinking the WoT framework should provide that kind of information
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rrsagent, draft minutes
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/09/20-multimodal-minutes.html kaz
14:42:01 [kaz]
rrsagent, make log public
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rrsagent, draft minutes
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/09/20-multimodal-minutes.html kaz
14:42:29 [kaz]
seb: explains Thing Description
14:42:58 [kaz]
... data types coming from RDF and schema
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... but how to handle the range, etc.
14:43:36 [kaz]
... maybe there are some ways to rely on
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... but not fixed yet
14:44:05 [kaz]
... if the type relies on XML, we can use its schema
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... JSON Schema is not yet standardized, though
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... we'll have discussion on Schema.org too
14:45:35 [kaz]
ddahl: how can a developer get the value like temperature?
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seba: can access the entry point specified by the "uris" property
14:46:25 [kaz]
... and get the value by the "hrefs"
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... index.html is the entry point
14:47:06 [kaz]
s/point/point at the uris URL
14:47:35 [kaz]
ddahl: besides temp, we can use more than one properties?
14:47:58 [kaz]
helena: each property is atomic?
14:48:11 [kaz]
seba: we could allow multiple protocols
14:48:21 [kaz]
... and multiple hrefs
14:49:12 [kaz]
helena: question about the end point for multiple protocols
14:49:30 [kaz]
seba: properties are handled by GET
14:49:37 [kaz]
... actions are handled by POST
14:50:17 [kaz]
... there is already complains on the usage of "uris"
14:51:23 [kaz]
... maybe better to explicitly specify the method in addition to protocols within "uris"
14:52:49 [kaz]
kaz: also it would be even clearer to use different endpoint file names for different protocols instead of reuse "index.html" for all possible protocols
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seba: right
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... discussion still ongoing
14:54:26 [kaz]
... this is JSON-LD notation based on RDF
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... can show a bigger example
14:55:37 [kaz]
helena: do you have any taxonomy to describe things?
14:56:11 [kaz]
... about how "things" could be described in addition to "devices"
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... e.g., flower
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chair: Debbie
14:58:17 [kaz]
present: Kaz_Ashimura(W3C), Sebastian_Kaebisch(Siemens), Dan_Burnett(Invited_Expert), Debbie_Dahl(Invited_Expert), Helena_Rodriguez(Invited_Expert), Ningxin_Hu(Intel), Uday_Davuluru(RWE), Andrei_Ciortea(Universite_de_Lyon)
14:59:02 [kaz]
(discussion on ontology)
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seba: we're not working on ontology
14:59:41 [kaz]
... different kinds of ontologies could be used with the WoT framework
15:00:30 [kaz]
helena: if I want to use some ontology with TD, where I can specify that within TD?
15:00:47 [kaz]
seba: within the @context part
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... and can use the prefix within the below @context
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ddahl: unit change?
15:03:09 [kaz]
... how the manufacture could specify units?
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rrsagent, draft minutes
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/09/20-multimodal-minutes.html kaz
15:14:47 [kaz]
helena, if you could ping me when the MMI meeting is adjourned, I'll visit 1.12 again and take our group photo
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