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16:43:55 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be
16:43:55 <Zakim> I don't understand 'this will be', trackbot
16:43:56 <trackbot> Meeting: Accessible Rich Internet Applications Working Group Teleconference
16:43:56 <trackbot> Date: 15 September 2016
16:44:00 <Rich> meeting starts in 17 minutes
16:44:08 <jamesn> oh yeah..... we are all early!
16:44:22 <Rich> well, read the minutes from last week. We are starting on the hour
16:44:43 <Rich> I will call  in
16:46:03 <jamesn> :)
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16:51:13 <jongund> present+ jongund
16:51:31 <jaeun_ku> present+ JaEun Ku
16:52:37 <joanie> present+ Joanmarie_Diggs
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17:02:36 <jnurthen> agenda?
17:02:55 <jnurthen> TOPIC: ISSUE-1043
17:03:09 <jnurthen> RS: already fixed. should close as already fixed unless objections
17:03:19 <jnurthen> RS: closed
17:03:47 <jnurthen> TOPIC: Tools Migration to Github
17:03:54 <jnurthen> ACTION-2114?
17:03:54 <trackbot> ACTION-2114 -- Joanmarie Diggs to Add relation_popup_for for atk/at-spi2 for the element referenced by aria-haspopup. -- due 2016-09-13 -- CLOSED
17:03:54 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/ARIA/track/actions/2114
17:04:16 <jnurthen> not the correct action
17:04:30 <MichaelC> present+ MichaelC
17:04:34 <jnurthen> RS: do not know
17:04:41 <jnurthen> TOPIC: Blockers for entering CR?
17:04:47 <janina> present+ Janina
17:04:55 <jnurthen> RS: working through the blockers - one was errormessage and details
17:05:05 <jnurthen> RS: seem to be working through them
17:05:26 <jnurthen> JD: don't think any blockers - may be some things that become atrisk
17:05:37 <jnurthen> RS: have to get with apple for some
17:05:47 <joanie> q+ to ask a question re at-risk
17:06:09 <Rich> q?
17:06:46 <jnurthen> JD: during my rant i was saying would have to add relations to ATK. As long as it is implementable then is it ok if it is in latest build
17:11:11 <jnurthen> RS: can make it a core aam issue of you want MK (looking at 1043 again)
17:12:31 <Rich> Action: Joanie Update core-aam to not expose aria-details relationships that reference elements that are hidden.
17:12:32 <trackbot> Created ACTION-2117 - Update core-aam to not expose aria-details relationships that reference elements that are hidden. [on Joanmarie Diggs - due 2016-09-22].
17:12:38 <Rich> action-2117
17:12:38 <trackbot> action-2117 -- Joanmarie Diggs to Update core-aam to not expose aria-details relationships that reference elements that are hidden. -- due 2016-09-22 -- OPEN
17:12:38 <trackbot> http://www.w3.org/WAI/ARIA/track/actions/2117
17:15:24 <jnurthen> TOPIC: Testable Statements (Coordination), test case Authoring, and automation - Jon Gunderson
17:15:24 <jnurthen> 
17:15:36 <jnurthen> RS: are we generating the testcases from the test harness?
17:16:05 <jnurthen> JD: the harness itself is not turning tables into tests... what shane has done is added some tests he has put there
17:16:31 <jnurthen> JG: fred has writted a perl script to take the wiki and do something with it for shane
17:16:52 <jnurthen> RS: how is the Invited Expert status going
17:18:18 <jnurthen> JG: some problems with managed state.... has been suggested to write in python
17:20:14 <jnurthen> RS: some gaps in UIA on the mapping spec
17:21:15 <jnurthen> JD: do we expect to have everyone - or will some be using their own systems
17:21:39 <jnurthen> JG: if the WPT stuff works out then can have an adapter for MSFT
17:21:53 <jnurthen> JG: can be refactored for UIA - for WPT
17:22:12 <jnurthen> my understanding is that the WPT solution is preferred as OS etc...
17:23:01 <Rich> https://www.w3.org/WAI/ARIA/wiki/Meetings/TPAC_2016
17:23:05 <jnurthen> TOPIC:  TPAC Coordination (Review Agendas)
17:23:47 <jnurthen> RS: a few TBD things
17:23:58 <jnurthen> MC: need something before the TAG meetings
17:24:19 <jnurthen> RS: would do an ARIA 2 triage after the tag and web app components
17:24:23 <jnurthen> meetings
17:25:09 <jnurthen> all of those pieces come together into the aria 2.0 work... do we start triaging on friday
17:27:48 <jnurthen> RS: can adjust the whole end of day agenda
17:28:27 <jnurthen> RS: exit criteria - is MC done with that? updated?
17:28:31 <jnurthen> MC: not yet
17:28:38 <jnurthen> RS: needs updating shortly after TPAC
17:28:56 <jnurthen> zakim, please part
17:28:56 <Zakim> leaving.  As of this point the attendees have been jongund, JaEun, Ku, Joanmarie_Diggs, MichaelC, Janina
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17:29:03 <jnurthen> rrsagent, make minutes
17:29:03 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/09/15-aria-minutes.html jnurthen
17:32:15 <Rich> :-)
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