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14:21:48 <Lisa_Seeman> agenda: this
14:21:50 <Lisa_Seeman> agenda+ review actions, and timelines see https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/wiki/SC_todo_list
14:21:51 <Lisa_Seeman> and https://www.w3.org/wiki/WCAG/Coga_SC
14:21:53 <Lisa_Seeman> agenda+ updates on tpac and october
14:21:54 <Lisa_Seeman>  agenda+ authentication https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/extension/accessible-authentication.html
14:21:56 <Lisa_Seeman>  agenda+ If john and kurt are here, feedback on https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/extension/rapid-and-direct-feedback.html
14:21:57 <Lisa_Seeman> agenda+ timed events
14:21:59 <Lisa_Seeman> See https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/extension/timed-events.html
14:22:00 <Lisa_Seeman> agenda+ be done
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15:13:13 <steve> lisa: hi
15:13:39 <steve> I haven't used IRC for ages :)
15:13:54 <steve> Gitter seems to be the thinh these days
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15:53:56 <Lisa_Seeman_> hello
15:54:05 <Lisa_Seeman_> zakim, next item
15:54:05 <Zakim> agendum 1. "review actions, and timelines see https://www.w3.org/WAI/PF/cognitive-a11y-tf/wiki/SC_todo_list" taken up [from Lisa_Seeman]
15:54:14 <Lisa_Seeman_> good it is working:)
15:54:56 <Lisa_Seeman_> regrets: chaohai Ding ,,E.A. Draffan, All of the US
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15:57:46 <Thaddeus> + Thaddeus present
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16:01:22 <Lisa_Seeman_> scribe: Mike_Pluke
16:02:00 <Lisa_Seeman_> zakim, next item
16:02:00 <Zakim> agendum 2. "updates on tpac and october" taken up [from Lisa_Seeman]
16:03:47 <Mike_Pluke> NeitMike Can't make TPAC
16:04:37 <Mike_Pluke> Mike can't make TPAC Thaddeus will look into the possibility
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16:06:07 <steve> everything broke and NOW it want's me to download - sigh
16:07:00 <Lisa_Seeman_> zakim, next item
16:07:00 <Zakim> agendum 3. "authentication https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/extension/accessible-authentication.html" taken up [from Lisa_Seeman]
16:07:31 <Mike_Pluke> Starting with user authentication
16:07:51 <Mike_Pluke> Steve can't make TPAC
16:10:46 <steve> https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/extension/accessible-authentication.html is 404 for me
16:10:57 <steve> ah no its the IRC client add in the "
16:12:11 <Lisa_Seeman_> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-cognitive-a11y-tf/2016Sep/0008.html
16:12:33 <Mike_Pluke> The rest of the scope of the original SC proposal can, hopefully, be covered by an additional SC
16:14:15 <Mike_Pluke> Lisa wants this to be more generalised
16:14:59 <Lisa_Seeman_> -memorize information such as characters, words, numbers or gestures or;
16:15:01 <Lisa_Seeman_> -correctly identify information such as characters, words, numbers or gestures or;
16:15:02 <Lisa_Seeman_> -correctly  copy  information such as characters, words, numbers or gestures or;
16:15:04 <Lisa_Seeman_> -reliably produce information from memory
16:15:05 <Lisa_Seeman_> -perform calculations or complex cognitive function
16:15:07 <Lisa_Seeman_> -speak
16:18:46 <Lisa_Seeman_> -------------
16:18:49 <Lisa_Seeman_>     memorize character strings or;
16:18:50 <Lisa_Seeman_>     correctly identify and enter numbered characters from a character string or;
16:18:52 <Lisa_Seeman_>     perform calculations or;
16:18:53 <Lisa_Seeman_>     speak or;
16:18:55 <Lisa_Seeman_>     reliably produce gestures or;
16:18:56 <Lisa_Seeman_>     recognise characters presented on screen and then enter them into an input field.
16:21:43 <Lisa_Seeman_> perform calculations or complex reasoning
16:22:03 <Lisa_Seeman_> perform calculations or pazales
16:29:13 <Mike_Pluke> General consensus that Lisa's first bullet is an improved version of my first bullet - but add pictures
16:36:51 <Lisa_Seeman_> processing presented or memoried information
16:39:20 <Mike_Pluke> Possible second bullet could say "processing presented or memorized information and entering the result of the processing"
16:43:45 <Mike_Pluke> Suggest why we have speech (temporary inability) in relation to voice pattern authentication.
16:55:21 <Mike_Pluke> Lisa suggests that many of the original ideas can be specified in failure criteria
16:56:44 <Mike_Pluke> Add some success techniques
17:00:56 <Mike_Pluke> Suggest Mike should give some examples of where people with only slight decline if e.g. memory mean they can no longer use critical services.
17:04:53 <Lisa_Seeman_> do not require  processng of or memised or presented information or memorising information
17:05:27 <Mike_Pluke> .".. Do not require memorizing and processing of presented or memorized information" is almost the whole thing.
17:12:01 <Lisa_Seeman_> rrsagent, make logs public
17:12:07 <Lisa_Seeman_>  rrsagent, create minutes
17:12:07 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/09/05-coga-minutes.html Lisa_Seeman_
17:14:34 <Lisa_Seeman_> zakim, please part
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17:14:40 <Lisa_Seeman_> rrsagent, please part
17:14:40 <RRSAgent> I see no action items