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14:51:46  Meeting: HTML Media Task Force Teleconference
14:51:46  Date: 30 August 2016
14:51:56  present+ paulc
14:52:38  Agenda: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-media/2016Aug/0105.html
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15:00:34  present+ MattWolenetz
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15:00:50  zakim, who is on the call?
15:00:50  Present: paulc, MattWolenetz, markw, jdsmith
15:00:51  present+ johnsim
15:01:45  present+ ddorwin
15:02:28  rrsagent, generate the minutes
15:02:28  I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/08/30-html-media-minutes.html paulc
15:03:52  \mw I have a hard stop at 9am
15:06:12  Chair: paulc
15:06:19  Scribenick: paulc
15:07:19  Topic: EME Editorial issues
15:07:53  ISSUE-211 and ISSUE-293 are still outstanding.
15:08:12  293 is block on respec fixes.  The text is fine.
15:08:20  Mark is working on 211 this week.
15:08:38  David will change 211 to not be editorial since it does not impact the current doc.
15:08:55  Topic: EME nonblocking issues
15:09:13  ISSUE-242 and ISSUE-237 are still outstanding.
15:09:35  David has done a PR for 237.  Mark will review -237 PR more.
15:09:45  David will then tackle a PR for -242.
15:10:07  It looks like the above editorial and nonblocking issues will be done this week.
15:10:21  Topic: EME registry issues
15:11:50  Philippe is not present to give an update.  This was scheduled to be done by last Friday.
15:12:07  Topic: Other EME issues
15:12:31  Outstanding issues includ ISSUE-288 from Wendy.  Paul to take action here.
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15:13:18  Formal objections in ISSUE-304 and ISSUE-305 will be added to the Formal Objections page since neither will be resolved in V1.
15:13:57  Topic: EME registry issues (again)
15:14:39  EME issues 104, 183 and 213 will be done this afternoon.
15:15:06  MSE ISSUE-74 will also be done today for MSE registry.
15:15:36  Updates to EME registry will be done today.
15:15:47  MSE registry will be published for the first time on Thu.
15:16:08  Topic: EME at risk features
15:16:59  David: one feature got removed
15:17:08  >Support for insecure contexts, including the Are insecure contexts allowed?   has already been removed
15:17:20  The other two at risk features are awaiting testing results.
15:17:35  Topic: EME test suite
15:18:13  See Jerry's updates on tesing:
15:18:14  https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-media/2016Aug/0106.html
15:18:21  https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-media/2016Aug/0107.html
15:18:45  Paul: questions were asked but not many answers
15:19:25  Jerry: we have timeouts
15:20:08  ... and they're not counted as failures
15:20:14  ... and we have a large number of those
15:20:25  ... don't know why yet
15:21:13  Mark: wasn't aware we had those timeouts... will need to look into this
15:21:35  ... if the playback doesn't start, you get a timeout
15:22:51    
15:23:05  https://github.com/w3c/testharness.js/blob/master/docs/api.md#harness-timeout
15:23:51  Paul: what about the naming?
15:23:53  Mark: will fix it
15:25:18  MArk will replace the key system name in the test name with either 'drm' or 'clearKey'.  See https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-media/2016Aug/0108.html
15:26:20  Mark will do the above two changes, Jerry will review any PRs and then re-run the tests.
15:26:58  plh: better to let testharness.js to time out and report those as failures in wptreport
15:27:46  Jerry: some tests migration need to be done
15:28:24  outstanding PR for EME test suite: https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/pulls?utf8=%E2%9C%93&q=is%3Apr%20is%3Aopen%20label%3Aencrypted-media
15:29:30  ISSUE https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/issues/3583 outlines Google tests to be migrated.  Netflix is working on some of these.
15:30:18  Netflix is working on the 7 tests identified in https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/issues/3583#issuecomment-243203368
15:30:39  There are 14 others to be migrated.
15:30:53  David cannot do this work item this week.
15:31:24  Jerry will look into doing some of the remaining Google test migrations.
15:33:12  Mark: which implementation can we use to test?
15:33:27  ... for persistent license
15:33:30  ... ChromeOS?
15:33:45  Jerry: I think Edge doesn't support the session type
15:33:53  Paul: Firefox?
15:34:02  Mark: didn't seem to work when I tried it
15:34:23  Paul: if you ask on the list, you might get an answer
15:35:32  Mark: we ran some of the tests on a castTV device, using polyfill
15:35:57  Paul: as long as we make it clear in the implementation report...
15:36:12  David: cast implementation is a private one, not intended to be used.
15:36:27  ... was created for Netflix
15:37:16  Topic: MSE draft Proposed Recommendation
15:37:38  Paul: I proposed that it was time to do this
15:38:15  ACTION: plh to generate the new MSE draft PR, pointing to the testing results
15:38:15  Created ACTION-108 - Generate the new mse draft pr, pointing to the testing results [on Philippe Le Hégaret - due 2016-09-06].
15:38:46  Topic: MSE test suite results
15:39:17  Paul: still some outstanding pull requests
15:39:20  https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-html-media/2016Aug/0102.html is Matt's most recent update
15:39:43  Matt: going through them...
15:39:54  Outstanding PRs: https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/pulls?q=is%3Apr+is%3Aopen+label%3Amedia-source
15:40:14  ... resolving the merge conflict
15:40:25  ... I'll send out an update later today
15:40:33  ... rerunning the report
15:41:01  plh: I can rerun the tests
15:41:12  Matt: we have some idl failures
15:42:14  https://github.com/w3c/web-platform-tests/blob/master/media-source/interfaces.html
15:42:54  http://w3c-test.org/media-source/interfaces.html
15:45:22  Matt: if they are known bugs, how do we report it?
15:46:45  Paul: in an email is fine
15:49:40  rrsagent, generate minutes
15:49:40  I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/08/30-html-media-minutes.html plh
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