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14:21:58 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be
14:21:58 <Zakim> I don't understand 'this will be', trackbot
14:21:59 <trackbot> Meeting: Low Vision Accessibility Task Force Teleconference
14:21:59 <trackbot> Date: 25 August 2016
14:22:12 <allanj> rrsagent, make minutes
14:22:12 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/08/25-lvtf-minutes.html allanj
14:22:44 <allanj> rrsagent, set logs public
14:22:52 <allanj> chair: jim
14:23:31 <allanj>  Agenda+ Timelines/Milestones - lots to do.
14:23:41 <allanj> zakim, agenda
14:23:41 <Zakim> I don't understand 'agenda', allanj
14:23:44 <allanj> zakim, agenda?
14:23:44 <Zakim> I see 3 items remaining on the agenda:
14:23:45 <Zakim> 4. Gap analysis updated - existing SCs http://w3c.github.io/low-vision-SC/GapAnalysis-SC.html [from jim]
14:23:45 <Zakim> 5. Testability [from AWK]
14:23:45 <Zakim> 6. Timelines/Milestones - lots to do. [from allanj]
14:24:08 <allanj> zakim, clear agenda
14:24:08 <Zakim> agenda cleared
14:24:13 <allanj>  Agenda+ Timelines/Milestones - lots to do.
14:24:24 <allanj> Agenda+ Gap analysis Review items without SCs http://w3c.github.io/low-vision-SC/GapAnalysis-SC.html
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15:05:59 <Wayne> scribe, wayne
15:06:12 <shawn> scribe: wayne
15:06:20 <Wayne> zakim, open item 1
15:06:20 <Zakim> agendum 1. "Timelines/Milestones - lots to do." taken up [from allanj]
15:06:25 <allanj> present+
15:06:27 <shawn> present: Jim, Shawn, Wayne, Scott
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15:06:54 <laura> present+ Laura
15:09:13 <shawn> idea for plan:
15:09:13 <shawn> * draft of *all* in Sept
15:09:13 <shawn> * coordinate with other TFs and WCAG WGs in Nov
15:09:14 <shawn> * finalize in early Dec
15:09:28 <Wayne> Jim: We are looking for mid-December final. So, Dec. 8 with all ducks in a row. We still have a gap in the spreadsheet.
15:09:47 <allanj> jim will be out for october
15:10:18 <shawn> Jim also out last week of Sept
15:12:02 <shawn> idea for plan:
15:12:02 <shawn> * draft of *all* in Sept
15:12:02 <shawn> * coordinate with other TFs and WCAG WGs in Oct & Nov
15:12:03 <shawn> * fill in all the details in Oct & Nov
15:12:03 <shawn> * finalize in early Dec
15:12:12 <Wayne> Shawn: Jim is out for October. Work on our draft. Coordinate with other groups in Nov. Then With WCAG WG.  We've got 4 weeks..
15:12:51 <shawn> idea for plan:
15:12:51 <shawn> * draft of *all* in Sept
15:12:51 <shawn> * fill in all the details in Oct
15:12:52 <shawn> * coordinate with other TFs and WCAG WGs in Oct & Nov
15:12:52 <shawn> * finalize in early Dec
15:13:10 <allanj> in october work on technique titles, add related resources - research, add testability info for each sc
15:13:21 <Wayne> Jim: In October we fill in all the other information for SCs other than wording, testability, techniques...
15:14:09 <Wayne> zakim, next item
15:14:09 <Zakim> agendum 2. "Gap analysis Review items without SCs http://w3c.github.io/low-vision-SC/GapAnalysis-SC.html" taken up [from allanj]
15:15:45 <Wayne> Jim: for wide range this should be a browser.
15:16:17 <Wayne> Shawn: A method is available....
15:16:41 <scottm> we should make it clear authors should avoid blocking user agents from changing the fonts
15:16:57 <Wayne> action, Wayne do the Font SC
15:17:27 <Wayne> action: Wayne write Font SC
15:17:27 <trackbot> Created ACTION-70 - Write font sc [on Wayne Dick - due 2016-09-01].
15:17:30 <shawn> kinda like this one: Text Colors: A mechanism is available for users to select foreground and background colors of text from the full range of colors available on the operating system. (Level AA)
15:20:21 <shawn> Shawn: focus on gettting draft of all SCs first, then go back and refine. make sure we have covereg all that we intend to in this round
15:20:43 <Wayne> action: Wayne do text style wording
15:20:43 <trackbot> Created ACTION-71 - Do text style wording [on Wayne Dick - due 2016-09-01].
15:20:59 <allanj> shawn: AA or AAA
15:21:19 <allanj> wayne: AA authors do strange things. need to repair
15:22:59 <Wayne> Wayne: We need AA for style.
15:23:14 <Wayne> Shawn: All caps AAA
15:23:52 <allanj> laura: might be a failure technique - writing content in ALL CAPS
15:24:16 <shawn> 3.3.4 Capitalization
15:24:34 <shawn> Jim: OK with AAA
15:26:03 <allanj> action: jim to write SC for capitalization
15:26:03 <trackbot> Created ACTION-72 - Write sc for capitalization [on Jim Allan - due 2016-09-01].
15:26:39 <shawn> 3.3.5 Size of All Elements
15:26:58 <allanj> jim - write coga about all caps
15:28:32 <Wayne> Group: This means to zoom all content.
15:28:48 <Wayne> ... Similar to text size.
15:29:37 <allanj> action: laura to write SC - size of all elements
15:29:37 <trackbot> Created ACTION-73 - Write sc - size of all elements [on Laura Carlson - due 2016-09-01].
15:29:43 <shawn> 3.5.1 Element-level Customization
15:30:44 <allanj> shawn: element level vs global
15:31:10 <Wayne> action: Wayne wording of Element Level
15:31:10 <trackbot> Created ACTION-74 - Wording of element level [on Wayne Dick - due 2016-09-01].
15:32:08 <shawn> Shawn: Laura would be good at helping refine SC language :)
15:32:16 <allanj> jim will create wiki pages for the new SC for others to complete
15:32:31 <shawn> 3.6.1 Maintain Point of Regard
15:33:54 <allanj> action: jim to update GapAnalysis-SC.html add links to wiki pages.
15:33:54 <trackbot> Created ACTION-75 - Update gapanalysis-sc.html add links to wiki pages. [on Jim Allan - due 2016-09-01].
15:34:35 <shawn> 3.6.1. is next gen
15:34:40 <allanj> point of regard is for 3.0
15:35:15 <shawn> 3.6.2 Proximity of Related Information
15:36:38 <shawn> best practie but not testable and SC-worthy?
15:37:05 <scottm> avoid white space
15:38:51 <shawn> not for 2.1
15:38:55 <allanj> wayne: perhaps 3.0 AAA. there are lots of techniques. good to know what heading a paragraph is in, or cell in table.
15:39:59 <allanj> shawn: could write best practice techniques, but not write an SC
15:40:32 <shawn> 3.7.1 Seeing All Interface Elements
15:41:00 <shawn> http://w3c.github.io/low-vision-a11y-tf/requirements.html#seeing-all-interface-elements
15:41:59 <shawn> Jim: easily testable
15:42:26 <shawn> Wayne: e.g., drop-down text box dones't increase so see only part of text
15:45:58 <Wayne> action: Scott when users change font size and list out the cases for the SC.
15:45:58 <trackbot> Created ACTION-76 - When users change font size and list out the cases for the sc. [on Scott McCormack - due 2016-09-01].
15:46:20 <shawn> 3.7.2 Printing Customized Text
15:49:44 <allanj> shawn: can do this with a user style sheet, can change print out.
15:50:18 <allanj> action: jim to write SC for printing customized text - a mechanism exists ...
15:50:18 <trackbot> Created ACTION-77 - Write sc for printing customized text - a mechanism exists ... [on Jim Allan - due 2016-09-01].
15:52:18 <allanj> shawn: check with digital publishing TF about printing
15:54:08 <shawn> 3.7.3 Using User Settings
15:55:12 <shawn> https://www.w3.org/dpub/IG/wiki/Task_Forces/Accessibility
15:57:20 <allanj> this is purely a browser issue
15:57:55 <shawn> separate issue? disabling features e.g., pinch to zoom
15:58:58 <Wayne> Action: Wayne User Settings Research...
15:58:59 <trackbot> Created ACTION-78 - User settings research... [on Wayne Dick - due 2016-09-01].
15:59:23 <Wayne> Action: Everyone examples of content limiting user settings
15:59:23 <trackbot> Error finding 'Everyone'. You can review and register nicknames at <http://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/low-vision-a11y-tf/track/users>.
16:00:06 <allanj> close action 10
16:00:15 <allanj> close, action 10
16:00:24 <allanj> zakim, close action 10
16:00:24 <Zakim> I don't understand 'close action 10', allanj
16:00:33 <allanj> zakim, close action-10
16:00:33 <Zakim> I don't understand 'close action-10', allanj
16:00:43 <allanj> close action-10
16:00:43 <trackbot> Closed action-10.
16:01:18 <allanj> agenda: review mobile gap analysis
16:01:31 <allanj> zakim, next item
16:01:31 <Zakim> I do not see any more non-closed or non-skipped agenda items, allanj
16:01:47 <allanj> zakim, agenda?
16:01:47 <Zakim> I see nothing remaining on the agenda
16:01:57 <allanj> agenda+ review mobile gap analysis
16:02:07 <allanj> zakim, open next item
16:02:07 <Zakim> agendum 3. "review mobile gap analysis" taken up [from allanj]
16:02:10 <allanj> https://www.w3.org/WAI/GL/low-vision-a11y-tf/wiki/Gap_Analysis_of_Mobile_Document_and_Low_Vision_Needs_Document
16:07:14 <allanj> action: jim write mobile about changing contrast for large text
16:07:14 <trackbot> Created ACTION-79 - Write mobile about changing contrast for large text [on Jim Allan - due 2016-09-01].
16:10:14 <allanj> kudos to laura for creating mobile gap
16:10:35 <allanj> lvtf reviewed and found no need to create new SCs
16:12:16 <Wayne> trackbot, end meeting
16:12:16 <trackbot> Zakim, list attendees
16:12:16 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been Jim, Shawn, Wayne, Scott, Laura
16:12:24 <trackbot> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
16:12:24 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/08/25-lvtf-minutes.html trackbot
16:12:25 <trackbot> RRSAgent, bye
16:12:25 <RRSAgent> I see 11 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2016/08/25-lvtf-actions.rdf :
16:12:25 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Wayne write Font SC [1]
16:12:25 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2016/08/25-lvtf-irc#T15-17-27
16:12:25 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Wayne do text style wording [2]
16:12:25 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2016/08/25-lvtf-irc#T15-20-43
16:12:25 <RRSAgent> ACTION: jim to write SC for capitalization [3]
16:12:25 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2016/08/25-lvtf-irc#T15-26-03
16:12:25 <RRSAgent> ACTION: laura to write SC - size of all elements [4]
16:12:25 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2016/08/25-lvtf-irc#T15-29-37
16:12:25 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Wayne wording of Element Level [5]
16:12:25 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2016/08/25-lvtf-irc#T15-31-10
16:12:25 <RRSAgent> ACTION: jim to update GapAnalysis-SC.html add links to wiki pages. [6]
16:12:25 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2016/08/25-lvtf-irc#T15-33-54
16:12:25 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Scott when users change font size and list out the cases for the SC. [7]
16:12:25 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2016/08/25-lvtf-irc#T15-45-58
16:12:25 <RRSAgent> ACTION: jim to write SC for printing customized text - a mechanism exists ... [8]
16:12:25 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2016/08/25-lvtf-irc#T15-50-18
16:12:25 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Wayne User Settings Research... [9]
16:12:25 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2016/08/25-lvtf-irc#T15-58-58
16:12:25 <RRSAgent> ACTION: Everyone examples of content limiting user settings [10]
16:12:25 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2016/08/25-lvtf-irc#T15-59-23
16:12:25 <RRSAgent> ACTION: jim write mobile about changing contrast for large text [11]
16:12:25 <RRSAgent>   recorded in http://www.w3.org/2016/08/25-lvtf-irc#T16-07-14