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dbooth: I drafted this to get into STU 3: https://hl7-fhir.github.io/ontology-module.html
harold: Suggest putting the word "RDF" in the header
FHIR starting page: https://hl7-fhir.github.io/
harold: grahame used the term "ontology" to refer to the 5 Ws classification.
dbooth: huh?
harold: the FHIR starting page is a resource that begins with W5, equated to the FHIR ontology in earlier discussions. ON the ontology page we should consider a disclaimer or clarification to not be confused with th W5 work.
dbooth: W5 work?
<hsolbrig> http://hl7-fhir.github.io/w5.html
harold: W5 is who, what, why,
where, when
... Suggest grepping for the word ontology in the context of
w5, to distinguish.
... what's the status of the ontology?
dbooth: It will need to be generated by the build process
harold: Related project: Grahame,
Linda Bird and Keith Campbell are working on setting up a
template language and mapping FHIR resources to SNOMED Ct using
the template language
... Linda's been in charge of the SNOMED CT family of
languages: grammar, constraint language, query language and
template language, which maps data structures into slots into
snomed compositional statements that can be classified.
... When she started looking at FHIR she started added all
sorts of tweaks, and grahame suggested that the mapping
language be used to transform fhir resource instances into a
normalized template.
... A classic example is the non-monotonic stuff.
<scribe> ACTION: Harold to check w linda for a link to the snomed-fhir mapping [recorded in http://www.w3.org/2016/08/16-hcls-minutes.html#action01]
<trackbot> Created ACTION-66 - Check w linda for a link to the snomed-fhir mapping [on Harold Solbrig - due 2016-08-23].
Alejandra: I thought it would explain more of the ontoloyg, not only RDF. Maybe tweak the title.
philippe: In sec 3.0.1.3 add links to other ontologies and any not recommended
harold: RDF generation for FHIR is complete and accurate to the best of my knowledge.
<hsolbrig> https://hl7-fhir.github.io/medicationexample0310.ttl.html
<hsolbrig> https://hl7-fhir.github.io/allergyintolerance-example.ttl.html
<hsolbrig> https://hl7-fhir.github.io/allergyintolerance.shex.html
harold: There's still room for
improvement on the shex definitions
... We just changed the syntax of the shex for valuesets (at
the bottom of that page)
... Still need to do slicing and constraints
<hsolbrig> https://github.com/shexSpec/shex.js
<hsolbrig> The above link points at A ShEx validator
harold: We still need to get the
example validation put into the build process.
... Grahame wants to use the scala implementation of shex for
that
... When rule is matched you can execute an action, which can
be used for generating documentation or other things.
... I want to make the actions similar to the ANTLER4 spec, so
that you can name the actions and then bind them later
... One current drawback now is that the rules have to be right
in the validation shex
dbooth: so the plan is for grahame to put jose's validator into the build process to validate all of the fhir examples? harold: yes
harold: i think we'll stand up a validator schema on the yosemiteproject.org site when ready
<hsolbrig> https://hl7-fhir.github.io/fhir.shex
harold: that includes all the
shex validation rules for fhir
... That's generated by the build process
... would there be enough interest in this to put RDF and Shex
into a connectathon?
dbooth: fhir proving ground work
is looking at mapping to/from fhir. I mentioned shex (shexmap)
for doing mapping, and that is also being looked at.
... They're also looking at grahame's fhir mapping language,
and at MDMI (from OMG)
... Could we leverage or join shexmap and grahame's fhir
mapping language?
harold: could shexmap be an implementation of the fhir mapping language?
dbooth: IDK. would be good to get eric and grahame involved in that discussion.
craig: i'll be at the baltimore
connectathon, and would be interested
... Could even do the experimental track
harold: should talk to michael van der zel. he's been quietly doing a lot of work in the RDF area.
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