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11:55:26 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be
11:55:26 <Zakim> I don't understand 'this will be', trackbot
11:55:27 <trackbot> Meeting: Permissions and Obligations Expression Working Group Teleconference
11:55:27 <trackbot> Date: 04 July 2016
11:55:35 <renato> RRSAgent, make logs public
11:56:13 <renato> Regrets: Ivan, Simon, Victor, Serena
11:56:25 <renato> present+
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12:02:13 <phila> phila has changed the topic to: Agenda for 2016-06-13: https://www.w3.org/2016/poe/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20160704
12:02:22 <phila> phila has changed the topic to: Agenda for 2016-07-04: https://www.w3.org/2016/poe/wiki/Meetings:Telecon20160704
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12:02:51 <michaelS> present+
12:03:09 <phila> present+ phila
12:03:41 <phila> RRSAgent, draft minutes
12:03:41 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/07/04-poe-minutes.html phila
12:03:55 <CarolineB> present+
12:04:07 <phila> chair: Renato
12:04:38 <renato> https://www.w3.org/2016/poe/wiki/Scribes
12:04:42 <phila> present+ CarolineB, michaelS, renato, James
12:04:52 <phila> RRSAgent, draft minutes
12:04:52 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/07/04-poe-minutes.html phila
12:04:57 <phila> scribe: michaelS
12:05:03 <phila> scribeNick: michaelS
12:05:12 <James> present+
12:05:20 <michaelS> no agenda - therfore an advisory meeting
12:05:50 <phila> phila: No agenda sent out this week so we can't make any formal resolutions
12:05:52 <michaelS> philA check if stuff is in order
12:06:09 <michaelS> renato: let's check the Use Cases
12:06:18 <phila> renato: Invites michaelS to chat about current state of the use cases
12:06:24 <michaelS> https://www.w3.org/2016/poe/wiki/Use_Cases
12:07:07 <phila> michaelS: The editors went over the use cases and invited their contributors whose work looked incomplete to look again.
12:07:12 <michaelS> Requ editor invited contributors to improve use case
12:07:14 <phila> ... We sent this out and created some actions
12:07:31 <phila> michaelS: Victor took this up and created 2 new use cases as a result
12:07:48 <phila> ... One step further, but not complete yet
12:08:04 <phila> renato: More tidying up needed?
12:08:27 <phila> michaelS: We invited Victor to take 3 actions, he's taken 2. And we need to check what he's done adn see if he's delivered what we needed.
12:08:57 <phila> q+
12:09:49 <phila> ack me
12:10:29 <michaelS> phila: made some minor update to his UC - where to update: Wiki only or on Github too
12:10:51 <michaelS> michaelS: Simon has said he will do the updates of the Github pages
12:11:06 <michaelS> phila: CLOSE Action-3
12:11:14 <phila> close action-3
12:11:15 <trackbot> Closed action-3.
12:12:15 <michaelS> phila: how much work has to be done
12:13:29 <michaelS> michaelS: under the condition that only UC are in the first UCR document it could be possible to finalize it until the next call
12:14:17 <michaelS> phila: we should send out a notice about the draft for vote - prior to the call
12:14:28 <michaelS> renato: ... when?
12:14:42 <michaelS> phila: ... end of this week
12:15:41 <renato> http://w3c.github.io/poe/ucr/
12:16:18 <michaelS> renato: should the requirements section be removed - as the requirements are empty
12:18:20 <michaelS> michaelS: suggested that SimonS should remove section 3 and keep it in an internal cache - but not publish the requirements yet
12:18:54 <michaelS> renato: ... supported that
12:19:35 <michaelS> renato: any other business?
12:19:50 <renato> http://w3c.github.io/poe/model/
12:19:53 <michaelS> CarolineB: no, has nothing to raise
12:20:17 <michaelS> renato: he and Serena have published a draft of the Model document
12:20:48 <michaelS> ... we have added a few issues - to be solved later
12:21:37 <michaelS> renato: should the group vote on it at the next call?
12:21:51 <michaelS> phila: preferred to have a vote soon
12:22:26 <michaelS> ... are the issues in the document to the Github issue tracker?
12:22:48 <michaelS> renato: has started tried it, will complete it this week
12:23:21 <michaelS> renato: further work on the Vocabulary document could be done soon - has to talk to other editors
12:23:38 <michaelS> ... we could vote on that in 2 weeks.
12:24:23 <michaelS> renato: what action to notify the group of the vote on the Model document?
12:24:38 <michaelS> phila: ... will be done in the minutes of this call ...
12:24:53 <michaelS> ... but a chair could always remind people.
12:25:44 <michaelS> renato: reminded of the TPAC participation
12:26:19 <michaelS> renato: some open issues should be solved at this face-to-face meeting
12:26:38 <michaelS> phila: will not be able to join both days
12:28:02 <michaelS> phila: asked renato if he knows the company Ephox
12:28:09 <michaelS> renato: ... knows.
12:28:45 <michaelS> renato: closed this advisory meeting - next week with an agenda again
12:28:59 <phila> RRSAgent, draft minutes
12:28:59 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/07/04-poe-minutes.html phila
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