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15:15:44 <trackbot> Meeting: Cognitive Accessibility Task Force Teleconference
15:15:44 <trackbot> Date: 27 June 2016
15:36:56 <Lisa_Seeman> agenda: this
15:36:58 <Lisa_Seeman> agenda+ review Updates with publications, TPAC https://www.w3.org/2016/09/TPAC/ ,
15:36:59 <Lisa_Seeman> 
15:37:01 <Lisa_Seeman> agenda+ WCAG for coga new wiki page https://www.w3.org/wiki/WCAG/Coga_SC
15:37:02 <Lisa_Seeman> agenda+ Tables https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/gap-analysis/table.html#table2 focus is on use needs: I need reminders of important information and I need to turn off distractions
15:37:04 <Lisa_Seeman> agenda+ What have we missed for issues page
15:37:05 <Lisa_Seeman> agenda+ be done
15:40:03 <Lisa_Seeman> regrets: John Rochford, Barry Johnson, Mary Jo Mueller,
15:40:12 <Lisa_Seeman> regrets: John Rochford, Mary Jo Mueller,
15:47:28 <Lisa_Seeman> next item:
15:48:10 <Lisa_Seeman> zakim, next item
15:48:10 <Zakim> agendum 3. "Tables https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/gap-analysis/table.html#table2" taken up [from Lisa_Seeman]
15:48:23 <Lisa_Seeman> topic 6
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15:49:32 <thaddeus> Thaddeus presetn
16:02:41 <Lisa_Seeman> zakim, next item
16:02:41 <Zakim> agendum 4. "What have we missed for issues page" taken up [from Lisa_Seeman]
16:02:47 <Lisa_Seeman> zakim, next item
16:02:47 <Zakim> agendum 4 was just opened, Lisa_Seeman
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16:03:39 <Lisa_Seeman> zakim, next item
16:03:39 <Zakim> agendum 4 was just opened, Lisa_Seeman
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16:04:24 <Lisa_Seeman> Topic: TPAC
16:04:46 <Lisa_Seeman> https://www.w3.org/WAI/APA/wiki/Meetings/TPAC_2016
16:05:33 <Lisa_Seeman> https://www.w3.org/2016/09/TPAC/
16:05:50 <Lisa_Seeman>  Tuesday and Thursday, 20 and 22 September 2016.
16:07:49 <KurtM> TPAC - opportunity for face-to-face talks with other working groups like ARIA, Web Apps, WCAG
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16:11:23 <KurtM> There may also be value in meeting with the Web Payments group and new Research TF at TPAC
16:14:23 <Lisa_Seeman> zakim, next item
16:14:23 <Zakim> agendum 5. "be done" taken up [from Lisa_Seeman]
16:14:27 <Lisa_Seeman> zakim, next item
16:14:27 <Zakim> agendum 5 was just opened, Lisa_Seeman
16:14:46 <Lisa_Seeman> zakim, item 7
16:14:46 <Zakim> I don't understand 'item 7', Lisa_Seeman
16:14:54 <Lisa_Seeman> zakim, agenda item 7
16:14:54 <Zakim> I don't understand 'agenda item 7', Lisa_Seeman
16:14:59 <Lisa_Seeman>  agenda item 7
16:15:04 <Lisa_Seeman> zakim, next item
16:15:04 <Zakim> agendum 5 was just opened, Lisa_Seeman
16:15:24 <Lisa_Seeman> https://www.w3.org/wiki/Main_Page
16:16:32 <KurtM> https://www.w3.org/wiki/WCAG/Coga_SC
16:16:40 <Lisa_Seeman> zakim, next item
16:16:40 <Zakim> agendum 6. "review Updates with publications, TPAC https://www.w3.org/2016/09/TPAC/ ," taken up [from Lisa_Seeman]
16:16:46 <Lisa_Seeman> https://www.w3.org/wiki/WCAG/Coga_SC
16:19:18 <Lisa_Seeman> q?
16:19:24 <Lisa_Seeman> zakim, next item
16:19:24 <Zakim> agendum 7. "WCAG for coga new wiki page https://www.w3.org/wiki/WCAG/Coga_SC" taken up [from Lisa_Seeman]
16:19:46 <Lisa_Seeman> https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-cognitive-a11y-tf/2016Jun/0016.html
16:20:02 <KurtM> Wiki page for capturing WCAG's feedback on proposed COGA SC available athttps://www.w3.org/wiki/WCAG/Coga_SC
16:20:13 <Lisa_Seeman> https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/gap-analysis/table.html#table2
16:21:33 <Lisa_Seeman> https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/extension/index.html#h-support-is-provided-that-help-users-complete-and-check-their-task-that-includes
16:22:22 <Lisa_Seeman> 3.5.3
16:22:52 <Lisa_Seeman> Enable the user to set a reminder for date and time sensitive events. Reminders should be set only at the users request. Where a standard mechanism exists for the platform or technologies it should be used.
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16:25:54 <Lisa_Seeman> https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/gap-analysis/table.html#table2
16:26:55 <janina_> present+ Janina
16:27:03 <ddahl> q+ to ask what else besides calendar programs this would apply to
16:27:20 <ddahl> present+ Debbie_Dahl
16:30:53 <Lisa_Seeman> Enable the user to set a reminder for date and time sensitive events. Reminders should be set only at the users request. Where a standard mechanism exists for the platform or technologies it should be used.
16:31:17 <Lisa_Seeman> q?
16:31:41 <Lisa_Seeman> ack d
16:31:41 <Zakim> ddahl, you wanted to ask what else besides calendar programs this would apply to
16:32:09 <janina_> q+ to ask about date/format differences
16:33:17 <MichaelC> q+ to say don´t make requirements overly tech specific
16:33:26 <MichaelC> q+ to ask why a third version of the SC?
16:33:28 <Lisa_Seeman> Enable the user to set a reminder for date and time sensitive events. Reminders should be set only at the users request and the user should be able to personlise the reminder method. Where a standard mechanism exists for the platform or technologies it should be used.
16:34:43 <Lisa_Seeman> ack j
16:34:43 <Zakim> janina_, you wanted to ask about date/format differences
16:37:21 <ddahl> it's also worth pointing out that there are also location sensitive events ("remind me to do x when I get home", for example)
16:38:00 <EA> date and time
16:38:52 <Lisa_Seeman> q+
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16:39:15 <MichaelC> ack me
16:39:15 <Zakim> MichaelC, you wanted to say don´t make requirements overly tech specific and to ask why a third version of the SC?
16:39:38 <Lisa_Seeman> ack me
16:40:45 <KurtM> Wiki version of SC is outdated
16:41:17 <Rich> present+ Rich_Schwerdtfeger
16:47:13 <EA> What if the reminder is instigated by a carer and not the user?  Or automatic reminders that come from other contexts not in the locale?
16:49:24 <Lisa_Seeman> q?
16:50:01 <KurtM> personalizing a reminder could include setting a type (e.g. personal, work, family)
16:52:10 <kirkwood_> Level of impotance could include: 1 star, 2 star, 3-star, 4 star, 5-star
16:55:52 <Lisa_Seeman> https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/gap-analysis/semantics.html
16:56:28 <Lisa_Seeman> https://rawgit.com/w3c/coga/master/gap-analysis/semantics.html#reminders
16:57:12 <Lisa_Seeman> Requirement: We require an attribute that enables different users to experience different amount of reminders based on personal preferences. Reminders are a wonderful tool for many people with cognitive disabilities. However too many reminders will be annoying or distracting for some other users.Proposed attribute: coga-reminderSupported values:basic: Reminders that over 90% of users would...
16:57:14 <Lisa_Seeman> ...want,more: More would be used by over 20% of the population.extra: Extra would be used by over 5% of the population, andmaximum: Maximum would be helpful for 5% of the population or less.Example:<div role="alert" coga-reminder="basic"> It is your daughter's birthday</div>
16:57:42 <Lisa_Seeman> coga-reminder="basic"
16:59:16 <EA> sorry having to go as I have  another meeting.
16:59:33 <Lisa_Seeman> q?
17:00:21 <thaddeus> I am just wondering if there may be a different example such as a reminder to pay a bill
17:00:46 <thaddeus> that shows more value proposition to bussiness
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18:38:55 <Lisa_Seeman> zakim, please part
18:38:55 <Zakim> leaving.  As of this point the attendees have been Janina, Thaddeus, Debbie_Dahl, Rich_Schwerdtfeger
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