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13:08:10 <alexandra-mikityuk> agenda
13:08:15 <alexandra-mikityuk> agenda?
13:12:08 <alexandra-mikityuk> http://www.gsma.com/
13:13:46 <colin> alexandra: contacted GSMA and invite them to the TF. They are discussing cloud browsing topics and could have valuable input
13:14:44 <colin> ... plan for now finishing up architecture
13:15:48 <colin> ... summarise discussions in email
13:17:37 <alexandra-mikityuk> last email Colin sent on the proposal of CB archs
13:18:03 <alexandra-mikityuk> ... explanations on SS CLoud Player and DS Local Player
13:18:25 <alexandra-mikityuk> ... If you have out of band media you still can control it from the cloud
13:18:40 <alexandra-mikityuk> ... in band media - you can control it in the cloud, ot locally
13:18:42 <kaz> rrsagent, make log public
13:18:47 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minute
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13:19:05 <alexandra-mikityuk> ... not sure its more understandable
13:19:18 <alexandra-mikityuk> ... now its better
13:19:46 <alexandra-mikityuk> ... Nilo - main concern - if someone else is reading this page
13:20:00 <alexandra-mikityuk> ... Its very hard to understand for other ppl
13:20:18 <alexandra-mikityuk> ... combine - from 1 place
13:20:26 <alexandra-mikityuk> ... separate - from different places
13:20:41 <alexandra-mikityuk> ... Nilo - we have to make it cristal clear
13:20:56 <alexandra-mikityuk> ... could you explain more?
13:21:17 <alexandra-mikityuk> ... either you send it together for a single stream
13:21:33 <alexandra-mikityuk> ... or you separate them  - so they come from DIFFERENT places
13:21:55 <alexandra-mikityuk> ... Alexandra's task - to make it clear
13:22:48 <alexandra-mikityuk> ... implementation case: 1st scenario - UI is sent to the client directly, media delivered separatly
13:23:27 <alexandra-mikityuk> ... 2nd - they are mixed together - and control then are sent by the cloud browser
13:23:47 <alexandra-mikityuk> ... end user request is sent to the CB
13:24:26 <kaz> present: Alexandra, Nilo, Colin
13:24:35 <alexandra-mikityuk> ... we could use 2 scenarios: SS CLoud Player, DS Local Player
13:25:06 <alexandra-mikityuk> ... Nilo: 1st case - over the CB, 2nd case - directly to the client
13:28:02 <colin> alexandra: will update approaches section on the wiki
13:28:44 <alexandra-mikityuk> ... Nilo: out of band case - 2 cases: one - client is sending state to the CB, another - client sends the key strokes to the CB
13:29:13 <alexandra-mikityuk> .. what is about the state that we send to the CB?
13:29:36 <alexandra-mikityuk> ... Colin: we have a broadcast signal - CB needs to know what channel you are on
13:29:47 <alexandra-mikityuk> Colin: then the client will send the state to the CB
13:29:59 <alexandra-mikityuk> ... Nilo - could we use this example for both?
13:30:09 <alexandra-mikityuk> .. Nilo - trickplay -
13:31:00 <alexandra-mikityuk> ... Nilo: what is equivalent of that for the 2nd approach?
13:31:09 <alexandra-mikityuk> ... colin: its the state
13:32:29 <colin> alexandra: will put an example what happens on the client and what happens in the cloud.
13:33:16 <NiloMitra> https://www.w3.org/2011/webtv/wiki/Main_Page/Cloud_Browser_TF/Architecture
13:34:24 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
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13:35:30 <colin> nilo: bothered with a few words in the terminology such as rendering. Some words are not clear. Ask the team to to explain.
13:36:18 <kaz> Meeting: Web&TV IG - Cloud Browser TF
13:36:34 <kaz> Chair: Alexandra
13:36:57 <kaz> i/contacted/scribenick: colin/
13:37:05 <colin> alexandra; explains why they choice the terms.
13:37:26 <kaz> i/last email/scribenick: alexandra-mikityuk/
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13:37:44 <colin> Nilo: rendering is done in every stage.
13:37:47 <kaz> present+ Kaz
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13:39:28 <colin> alexandra: different terms ui rendering, video rendering. broad term indeed. should use different terms for that
13:40:42 <kaz> s/last email Colin/colin: last email Colin/
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13:41:47 <colin> alexandra: nilo will update the wiki and will update the mailing list
13:41:57 <kaz> present+ So
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13:46:15 <colin> alexandra: will update the terminology for an application
13:49:11 <colin> alexandra: question to the group. remove discovery use case.
13:49:27 <colin> colin: thinks is still needed
13:49:56 <colin> alexandra: do we need different levels of requirements?
13:51:08 <colin> kaz: up to the group. Could try and revisit the requirements
13:52:05 <colin> alexandra: we don't have a lot af requirements. Prepose not to use levels. maybe after TPAC?
13:52:33 <kaz> s/af/of/
13:52:45 <kaz> s/Prepose/Propose/
13:57:06 <colin> alexandra: put section synchronisation for use cases
13:57:48 <colin> colin: will update communication use cases according to the template
13:59:52 <alexandra-mikityuk> q?
14:00:58 <kaz> [ adjourned ]
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