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15:58:53 <trackbot> Meeting: Audio Working Group Teleconference
15:58:53 <trackbot> Date: 05 May 2016
15:59:28 <joe> agenda+ Defining AudioWorkletNode https://github.com/WebAudio/web-audio-api/wiki/AudioWorklet-IDL-Proposal
15:59:44 <joe> agenda+ TAG issue: Subclassing / Node composition https://github.com/WebAudio/web-audio-api/issues/251
15:59:55 <joe> agenda+ Update on Output devices discussions
16:00:09 <joe> agenda+ https://www.w3.org/2011/audio/track/actions/130
16:00:11 <joe> agenda+ https://www.w3.org/2011/audio/track/actions/131
16:00:34 <joe> agenda+ TPAC poll
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16:02:55 <cwilso> present+ cwilso
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16:03:14 <rtoyg_m> present+ rtoyg_m
16:04:01 <joe> present+ joe
16:05:45 <rtoyg_m> Hello, anybody here?
16:07:30 <joe> lurkers, we're starting without you...
16:07:47 <joe> zakim, next agendum
16:07:47 <Zakim> agendum 1. "Defining AudioWorkletNode https://github.com/WebAudio/web-audio-api/wiki/AudioWorklet-IDL-Proposal" taken up [from joe]
16:08:25 <rtoyg_m> scribenick: rtoyg_m
16:09:37 <rtoyg_m> hongchan: Biggest change is separating worklet into workletnode and processor
16:10:01 <hongchan> https://github.com/WebAudio/web-audio-api/wiki/AudioWorklet-IDL-Proposal#idl-audioworkletglobalscope-and-audioworkletprocessor
16:10:11 <rtoyg_m> hongchan: Also added sampleRate to global scope.
16:11:16 <rtoyg_m> hongchan: Without this, worklet processor needs access to context which is a bad idea.
16:11:38 <rtoyg_m> joe:  Agrees with sampleRate addition.
16:12:32 <rtoyg_m> joe: Comments:  Is this really a part of the process?  It's kind of global.  Maybe add audioworklet context object for this?
16:13:00 <rtoyg_m> hongchan:  Yes, this makes some sense; need to think about it.
16:13:51 <rtoyg_m> joe: Noticed that we dropped other things for AudioWorker like playbackTime.  Do we need more items?  Maybe add event-type objects to hold this?
16:14:47 <rtoyg_m> hongchan:  Process method is not a regular event-type object, so this doesn't quite fit.
16:15:33 <rtoyg_m> joe: May be useful to pass in a object containing more stuff as AudioProcessingInfo object to hold this info.
16:16:08 <rtoyg_m> joe: Including AudioWorkletContext, playbackTime, etc.
16:16:55 <rtoyg_m> hongchan:  Want to discuss importing script. worklet might want to introduce ES6 modules concept.
16:17:23 <hongchan> https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/JavaScript/Reference/Statements/import
16:19:06 <rtoyg_m> hongchan: Do we want factory method?
16:19:22 <rtoyg_m> joe: Maybe, but really want to subclass AudioWorklet.
16:19:28 <rtoyg_m> hongchan: Totally agree.
16:21:00 <rtoyg_m> joe: Does factory pattern make it harder to know you can subclass?
16:21:14 <rtoyg_m> hongchan:  In F2F we decided to keep it.
16:21:48 <rtoyg_m> joe:  Proposed a method (that I didn't catch)
16:22:04 <rtoyg_m> joe, hongchan:  Need to think about it.
16:23:01 <rtoyg_m> hongchan: Needs to clean up and add some examples.
16:25:01 <rtoyg_m> joe:  The "this.gain.value" appears to be an exposed AudioParam, which is different from the original AudioWorker proposal. Might need some more care and thinking if this is right.
16:25:21 <rtoyg_m> hongchan: Yes, we need to look at this some more.
16:25:49 <rtoyg_m> joe:  This is a slimmed down, agile teleconf. :-)
16:25:57 <joe> zakim, next agendum
16:25:57 <Zakim> agendum 2. "TAG issue: Subclassing / Node composition https://github.com/WebAudio/web-audio-api/issues/251" taken up [from joe]
16:27:02 <joe> zakim, next agendum
16:27:02 <Zakim> agendum 3. "Update on Output devices discussions" taken up [from joe]
16:27:25 <joe> zakim, next agendum
16:27:25 <Zakim> agendum 3 was just opened, joe
16:27:42 <joe> joe: no one present on call has an update
16:27:43 <joe> zakim, next agendum
16:27:44 <Zakim> agendum 3 was just opened, joe
16:28:07 <cwilso> zakim, agenda?
16:28:07 <Zakim> I see 4 items remaining on the agenda:
16:28:09 <Zakim> 3. Update on Output devices discussions [from joe]
16:28:09 <Zakim> 4. https://www.w3.org/2011/audio/track/actions/130 [from joe]
16:28:09 <Zakim> 5. https://www.w3.org/2011/audio/track/actions/131 [from joe]
16:28:10 <Zakim> 6. TPAC poll [from joe]
16:28:11 <joe> zakim, next agendum
16:28:11 <Zakim> agendum 4. "https://www.w3.org/2011/audio/track/actions/130" taken up [from joe]
16:28:18 <cwilso> :)
16:28:58 <joe> joe: clilley not present, skipping action items
16:29:01 <joe> zakim, next agendum
16:29:01 <Zakim> agendum 4 was just opened, joe
16:29:05 <joe> zakim, agenda?
16:29:05 <Zakim> I see 3 items remaining on the agenda:
16:29:06 <Zakim> 4. https://www.w3.org/2011/audio/track/actions/130 [from joe]
16:29:06 <Zakim> 5. https://www.w3.org/2011/audio/track/actions/131 [from joe]
16:29:06 <Zakim> 6. TPAC poll [from joe]
16:29:07 <joe> zakim, next agendum
16:29:07 <Zakim> agendum 4 was just opened, joe
16:29:17 <joe> zakim, next agendum
16:29:17 <Zakim> agendum 5. "https://www.w3.org/2011/audio/track/actions/131" taken up [from joe]
16:30:39 <hongchan> https://github.com/WebAudio/web-audio-api/issues/797
16:31:13 <hongchan> rtoyg_m: there are some examples using the wider range of playbackRate.
16:31:25 <rtoyg_m> rtoyg_m:  Other items: playbackRate is too small.
16:31:41 <rtoyg_m> joe: Yes, maybe Nyquist?
16:32:25 <rtoyg_m> joe:  Maybe infinity?
16:32:32 <rtoyg_m> rtoyg_m: Fine with unbounded.
16:32:38 <rtoyg_m> joe: Agrees.
16:33:13 <rtoyg_m> joe: Let others look at the resolution.
16:34:00 <hongchan> https://github.com/WebAudio/web-audio-api/issues/762
16:34:31 <rtoyg_m> rtoyg_m:  min/max is too short and rename to minValue/maxValue.
16:34:48 <rtoyg_m> rtoyg_m: is fine.
16:34:58 <rtoyg_m> hongchan: Makes it more consistent with defaultValue.
16:35:03 <rtoyg_m> joe:  +1
16:38:37 <joe> https://github.com/WebAudio/web-audio-api/pull/662
16:42:58 <ghaudiobot> [web-audio-api] joeberkovitz closed pull request #662: Fix #250 (Desugaring) by using constructors instead of context factory methods (gh-pages...250-desugaring) https://github.com/WebAudio/web-audio-api/pull/662
16:44:22 <rtoyg_m> rtoyg_m: Failed to scribe the stuff on desugaring.
16:44:45 <rtoyg_m> joe: Next meeting: May 19.
16:45:17 <joe> rrsagent, make minutes
16:45:17 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/05/05-audio-minutes.html joe
16:45:31 <rtoyg_m> Thanks joe! I didn't know how to do that.
16:45:39 <rtoyg_m> See you next time!
17:02:27 <ghaudiobot> [web-audio-api] svgeesus pushed 2 new commits to gh-pages: https://github.com/WebAudio/web-audio-api/compare/930c71224d11...ffd4a827f0a1
17:02:27 <ghaudiobot> web-audio-api/gh-pages cb83b9e Chris Lilley: update to Security & Privacy
17:02:27 <ghaudiobot> web-audio-api/gh-pages ffd4a82 Chris Lilley: Merge branch 'gh-pages' of https://github.com/WebAudio/web-audio-api into gh-pages
17:33:20 <ghaudiobot> [web-audio-api] svgeesus pushed 1 new commit to gh-pages: https://github.com/WebAudio/web-audio-api/commit/49ae518458d679c82e5bd5b636b96af5fbd1a9b7
17:33:20 <ghaudiobot> web-audio-api/gh-pages 49ae518 Chris Lilley: undo botched merge conflict edit
17:37:05 <ghaudiobot> [web-audio-api] svgeesus pushed 1 new commit to gh-pages: https://github.com/WebAudio/web-audio-api/commit/8c83b1de8b61e74a822d92c28f3faf905fb39320
17:37:05 <ghaudiobot> web-audio-api/gh-pages 8c83b1d Chris Lilley: now make the actual small edits to the security section, from Wendy's review