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17:00:17 <trackbot> Zakim, this will be SOCL
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17:00:18 <trackbot> Meeting: Social Web Working Group Teleconference
17:00:18 <trackbot> Date: 12 April 2016
17:00:22 <cwebber2> present+
17:00:23 <tantek> present+
17:00:26 <ben_thatmustbeme> present+
17:00:30 <eprodrom> present+
17:00:56 <shevski> present+
17:01:22 <wilkie> present+
17:02:29 <ben_thatmustbeme> scribenick:ben_thatmustbeme
17:02:29 <wilkie> congrats!
17:02:31 <tantek> scribe: ben_thatmustbeme
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17:02:36 <ben_thatmustbeme> scribe: Ben Roberts
17:02:37 <tantek> zakim, who is here?
17:02:37 <Zakim> Present: cwebber, tantek, ben_thatmustbeme, eprodrom, shevski, wilkie
17:02:39 <Zakim> On IRC I see jaywink, Zakim, RRSAgent, annbass, cwebber2, tantek, eprodrom, jtilles, bblfish_, shevski, jasnell_, oshepherd, wilkie, raucao, rhiaro, ben_thatmustbeme, rrika,
17:02:39 <Zakim> ... Arnaud, aaronpk, tsyesika, bigbluehat, jet, KevinMarks, ElijahLynn, tessierashpool_, bret, dwhly, bitbear, Loqi, wseltzer, trackbot, sandro, shepazu
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17:03:11 <ben_thatmustbeme> tantek: first thing on the agenda is approval of minutes from last week
17:03:17 <tantek> https://www.w3.org/wiki/Socialwg/2016-04-05-minutes
17:03:21 <ben_thatmustbeme> TOPIC: minutes of last week
17:03:28 <shevski> looks fine
17:03:33 <shevski> +1
17:03:38 <ben_thatmustbeme> tantek: could people who were there last week please +1 in IRC if they look file
17:03:39 <bengo> present+
17:03:41 <ben_thatmustbeme> s/file/fine
17:03:55 <cwebber2> +1
17:04:00 <wseltzer> present+
17:04:04 <wilkie> +1
17:04:08 <ben_thatmustbeme> <ben_thatmustbeme> i was not here last week either
17:04:09 <bengo> +1
17:04:26 <ben_thatmustbeme> tantek: i think thats a fine number, and lets go ahead and declare them approved
17:04:34 <ben_thatmustbeme> APPROVED: accept minutes of last week
17:04:41 <ben_thatmustbeme> TOPIC: document status
17:04:53 <tantek> q?
17:05:04 <ben_thatmustbeme> tantek: anyone who is working on document actively, if anyone has anything to add please speak up
17:05:11 <eprodrom> q+
17:05:17 <tantek> ack eprodrom
17:05:43 <ben_thatmustbeme> eprodrom: i have been talking with the chairs group and we are working to clear any ... for as2
17:05:59 <ben_thatmustbeme> ... I am working on a new editor's draft, this will be the first time doing so on my own
17:06:20 <ben_thatmustbeme> ... aiming for an editor's draft for the end of the week and hoping to publish a WD by the next meeting
17:06:34 <aaronpk> hello! trying to dial in now
17:06:39 <ben_thatmustbeme> ... i think that all the important issues have been resolved so at this point its editorial and formatting
17:06:41 <wilkie> this is awesome
17:07:03 <ben_thatmustbeme> tantek: good luck, I believe as soon as you commit to github, it creates the editors draft automatically
17:07:13 <tantek> q?
17:07:14 <ben_thatmustbeme> ... any other editors?
17:07:21 <aaronpk> present+
17:07:39 <tsyesika> present+
17:07:53 <ben_thatmustbeme> ... aaronpk since you just joined any updates on other documents before we move on to your specific item?
17:08:10 <ben_thatmustbeme> ... tsyesika if you have any updates, nows the time before we move on.
17:08:11 <aaronpk> q+
17:08:11 <tsyesika> I should have an update next week but this week for me we can move on
17:08:24 <tantek> ack aaronpk
17:08:40 <ben_thatmustbeme> aaronpk: ............................
17:08:43 <aaronpk> shoot why isn't my sound working
17:08:54 <wilkie> well, you see, computers
17:09:05 <aaronpk> well this isn't going to work well if i can't talk
17:09:28 <ben_thatmustbeme> aaronpk: any one line status updates to provide us via IRC?
17:09:28 <aaronpk> dialing in again
17:09:36 <aaronpk> yeah -
17:09:40 <KevinMarks> present+
17:09:47 <aaronpk> minor webmention updates, changelog is here http://webmention.net/draft/#changes-from-29-march-2016-wd-to-this-version
17:09:50 <ben_thatmustbeme> tantek: well we can at least move on to other items while waiting
17:09:58 <tantek> TOPIC: Propose opening PDX F2F day 2 lunch to local socialweb/indieweb design and development community members to drop in and informally mingle
17:10:00 <ben_thatmustbeme> TOPIC: f2f discussion
17:10:41 <ben_thatmustbeme> tantek: aaronpk proposed having our normally close to WG lunch to be open to the broader PDX design community on the second day
17:10:50 <ben_thatmustbeme> ... any concerns, feedback?
17:11:00 <wilkie> I generally like that. if we place demos around lunch can people come to that?
17:11:07 <ben_thatmustbeme> bengo: it seems like a good idea, but wouldn't dinner be better?
17:11:20 <ben_thatmustbeme> tantek: usually dinner on the second day is informal
17:11:22 <bengo> fair
17:11:45 <cwebber2> +1 to demos around lunch
17:11:53 <wilkie> +1
17:11:55 <ben_thatmustbeme> tantek: wilkie proposed demos around lunch, can people come to that, what to others thing of that
17:12:00 <KevinMarks> lunch is good for nearby folks
17:12:03 <ben_thatmustbeme> <ben_thatmustbeme> +1
17:12:17 <KevinMarks> extend lunch to include demo time +1
17:12:40 <ben_thatmustbeme> tantek: seems to be good feedback so i don't think we need to make that a formal proposal, i think its just general feedback
17:12:47 <tantek> TOPIC:  Intro/demo Webmention test suite
17:13:21 <wilkie> we hear ya
17:13:22 <KevinMarks> I hear you
17:13:26 <KevinMarks> .rocks
17:13:37 <aaronpk> https://webmention.rocks/
17:13:41 <ben_thatmustbeme> aaronpk: with ispiration from as2.rocks, i created webmention.rocks
17:14:03 <annbass> present+
17:14:06 <ben_thatmustbeme> ... the goal is to test various pieces of the spec.  there are 8 now that test various parts of webmention discovery
17:14:18 <aaronpk> https://webmention.rocks/test/3
17:14:47 <ben_thatmustbeme> ... each looks like a blog post, if you can discover endpoint on it, you can post comments to it
17:15:06 <ben_thatmustbeme> ... I plan to add more tests, i plan to, i'd love for people to hammer on it and test out their webmention clients
17:15:10 <KevinMarks> mention-tech.appspot.com now passes
17:15:19 <eprodrom> q?
17:15:22 <KevinMarks> Known is being patched by kylewm
17:15:36 <wilkie> oh nice
17:15:43 <ben_thatmustbeme> tantek: i see a lot of comments on these links you just pasted, do you have any idea how many implementations we're seeing on here?
17:15:53 <eprodrom> q+
17:15:59 <ben_thatmustbeme> aaronpk: its hard to tell, i'm going to suggest people comment with information about their implementations
17:16:36 <ben_thatmustbeme> ... i see a couple of known sites, a wordpress one, one i don't recognize, one hand-rolled.   looks like at least 3 or 4 sending
17:16:52 <eprodrom> q+
17:17:01 <ben_thatmustbeme> tantek: that looks great, people with implementations should check it out, where can we give feedback?
17:17:03 <tantek> ack eprodrom
17:17:08 <eprodrom> muted
17:17:10 <ben_thatmustbeme> aaronpk: issues link is on the page
17:17:54 <ben_thatmustbeme> eprodrom: aaronpk this is creating a lot of links to other peoples sites, this could be a spam magnet, what are you doing about that?
17:18:17 <ben_thatmustbeme> aaronpk: it only keeps them for 48 hours now, i may curate them to have some stick.
17:18:32 <ben_thatmustbeme> eprodrom: how about putting no-follow, i know its a bit paranoid.
17:18:49 <ben_thatmustbeme> ... i anticipate spamming might become an issue pretty quickly
17:18:53 <KevinMarks> that will give us a spam testcase
17:19:02 <ben_thatmustbeme> aaronpk: i would be flattered if this got spammed
17:19:05 <annbass> :-)
17:19:17 <eprodrom> +1
17:19:29 <ben_thatmustbeme> ... right now they auto disappear after 2 weeks but i'll drop that down after it gets real traffic
17:19:32 <tantek> q?
17:19:33 <ben_thatmustbeme> ... i can add nofollow
17:19:41 <ben_thatmustbeme> TOPIC: tracking of issues
17:19:48 <ben_thatmustbeme> tantek: nothing pending review on tracker
17:19:53 <ben_thatmustbeme> TOPIC: other business
17:20:01 <ben_thatmustbeme> tantek: anything else anyone wants to bring up?
17:20:15 <ben_thatmustbeme> *crickets*
17:20:25 <ben_thatmustbeme> tantek: okay, sounds like we are done for the day
17:20:35 <ben_thatmustbeme> ... thank you everyone for participating
17:20:39 <wilkie> thanks all
17:20:40 <bengo> byebye
17:20:42 <wilkie> ben_thatmustbeme++
17:20:42 <annbass> thanks tantek and ben_thatmustbeme!
17:20:44 <ben_thatmustbeme> ... see you next week, same bat-time, same bat-channel
17:20:45 <Loqi> ben_thatmustbeme has 138 karma
17:20:58 <ben_thatmustbeme> s/bat-//
17:21:13 <ben_thatmustbeme> trackbot, end meeting
17:21:13 <trackbot> Zakim, list attendees
17:21:13 <Zakim> As of this point the attendees have been cwebber, tantek, ben_thatmustbeme, eprodrom, shevski, wilkie, bengo, wseltzer, aaronpk, tsyesika, KevinMarks, annbass
17:21:21 <trackbot> RRSAgent, please draft minutes
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17:21:22 <trackbot> RRSAgent, bye
17:21:22 <RRSAgent> I see no action items