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17:04:28 <clapierre> title: Accessibility DPUB Task Force Weekly Meeting
17:09:57 <Jean> I'm still here....
17:10:43 <clapierre> Jean, mathml has been ignored by the browsers, and peter is suggesting that we need to do something better
17:11:36 <clapierre> …, mathjax in stead of throwing in their lot hoping that browsers will implement it.. but rendering things in css and svg.
17:15:48 <clapierre> 1. Update of Jean’s edits on separate branch (Can we merge with master branch)
17:16:45 <clapierre> Jean, I don't have write access so I did this on a separate brance.
17:17:20 <clapierre> Tzviya, I spoke to jean about last minute tweaks.  Micheal recommend to not point to any specific Working Group.  Once that is in there then we are good to go.
17:17:52 <clapierre> Jean, cloned the wrong branch but will figure it out.
17:19:46 <clapierre> Tzviya, I can send you the file if you don't have it and will copy deborah
17:20:02 <clapierre> Jean, I will try to get for this today.
17:21:21 <clapierre> Tzviya, Jean just make your edits then send it to Deborah and she can deal with github.
17:22:21 <clapierre> Tzviya, Jean only add Michaels edits not Alisters comments.
17:22:33 <tzviya> •        Reorg doc: Discoverability and optimized should be much earlier
17:22:33 <tzviya> •        Didn’t we agree to cut drop caps?
17:22:33 <tzviya> •        Section 2.1: Alistair’s comments basically said this was wrong. We need to either come up with better use cases or reword
17:22:33 <tzviya> •        Skippability/escapability needs to be rewritten from audio book perspective (as is, already part of WCAG – I think). Romain should be able to offer input.
17:22:34 <tzviya> •        Pagination – we need to clarify that this refers to page markers. Be cautious about correspondence with print. It does not always exist, but this is still a v useful feature
17:22:34 <tzviya> •        Clean up section 2.6 – clarify that need explicit direction in WAI APG
17:22:34 <tzviya> •        Remove the named contacts and replace with GitHub repos when possible (e.g. DPUB-ARIA tracker)
17:23:27 <clapierre> Charles: so Disc/Opt should be 2.3
17:24:00 <clapierre> Charles: I thought we decided to dropcaps
17:24:08 <clapierre> s/2.3/2, 3
17:24:19 <clapierre> Charles: I will do both of those
17:25:27 <clapierre> Tzviya: we need to come up with a better use-case for packages since Alister said that is just a failed link.
17:25:57 <clapierre> Jean: does my explanation of packages help?
17:29:04 <clapierre> Tzviya: bidirectional linking.  there is WCAG req for navigation and not have broken links.  I am trying to come up with a use-case for packaging.  Alister brought up that there is a "set" of documents.
17:29:18 <clapierre> Jean: is this just vocabulary issue?
17:29:46 <clapierre> Tzviya: we are trying to define the problem not find the solution.
17:30:13 <clapierre> Jean: we should find the vocabulary between WCAG / DPUB
17:31:18 <clapierre> Tzviya: bypass block 241, multiple ways 245 /248.  WCAG is a little week in cross reference documents / bundled content
17:31:55 <clapierre> …, DPUB primarily supports multiple interrelated documents
17:32:56 <clapierre> Jean, we want to give the impression that these are not random.  We want to make sure that these are a collection or "package" or "packages" of interrelated documents.
17:33:22 <clapierre> tzviya, these uses cases need to be beefed up.  in bullet (bidirectional linking)
17:33:32 <clapierre> …, second use case how can we clarify this.
17:34:45 <clapierre> jean, got collection, got links, and you have a third source of linking from one to another in a specific order, and each page could be WCAG compliant but not all hocked up to the 3rd navigation document.
17:37:02 <tzviya> The individual components may not be WCAG-compliant because they lack elements such as navigation, but the package will be wcag-compliant because therere is a detailed navigation element that acts as a directory that acts as a directory for the whole package
17:37:46 <tzviya> rec: add discussion of a group of docs that are accessible as a bundle to guidelines
17:38:25 <clapierre> Tzviya, Romain may be able to offer input on skipability/esc needs.
17:39:24 <clapierre> Tzviya, page markers not pagination.
17:39:57 <clapierre> Charles, will send agenda / minutes to entire dpub group not just a11y tf moving fwd.
17:40:33 <clapierre> Tzviya, add 1 sentence that this is not just a throwback to print.
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17:40:48 <clapierre> Jean, how do you explain this to web people.
17:41:35 <clapierre> tzviya, Matt and I talked about calling this page makers and not specifically marking the specific page.
17:42:36 <clapierre> …, section 2.6 deep nesting headings… I will do this
17:43:28 <clapierre> …, Charles will remove specific names for authors.
17:43:44 <clapierre> …, and link to github repos instead.
17:44:28 <clapierre> Charles, I will wait until all Jeans edits are finished first before making my edits.
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17:46:03 <clapierre> Tzviya, Jean will become an invited expert.
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