IRC log of i18n on 2016-03-24

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trackbot, prepare teleconference
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RRSAgent, make logs world
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Zakim, this will be 4186
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I do not see a conference matching that name scheduled within the next hour, trackbot
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Meeting: Internationalization Working Group Teleconference
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Date: 24 March 2016
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Agenda: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2016Mar/0016.html
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Chair: Addison Phillips
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ScribeNick: aphillip
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Scribe: Addison Phillips
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/03/24-i18n-minutes.html aphillip
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agenda+ Radar and Active Work Review
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agenda+ Draft updates to various articles
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agenda+ Emoji Presentation
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agenda+ UTR#20
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agenda+ processing unsent comments
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agenda+ CharMod
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Present+ Addison
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present+ felix
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14:58:04 [Steve_Atkin]
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Present+ Steve Atkin
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Regrets+ David Clark
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Topic: Agenda
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agenda?
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Present+ JcK
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Topic: Action Items
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action-495?
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action-495 -- Addison Phillips to Ping the member list asking if a schedule change survey would produce more turnout -- due 2016-03-03 -- OPEN
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http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/495
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action-497?
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action-497 -- Richard Ishida to Publish the 3 bidi articles and announce them on www-international soliciting any additional comments -- due 2016-03-17 -- OPEN
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http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/497
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close action-497
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Closed action-497.
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action-498?
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action-498 -- Richard Ishida to Publish qa-site-conneg -- due 2016-03-17 -- OPEN
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http://www.w3.org/International/track/actions/498
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close action-498
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Closed action-498.
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Topic: Info Share
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/03/24-i18n-minutes.html aphillip
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richard: Unicode 9 beta is now out
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http://r12a.github.io/uniview/
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... if you're interested in finding bugs in that, please send them in
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richard: new version of uniview (above)
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... supports 9.0.0 b and other changes
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... has pictures of all of the characters except Tangut
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addison: don't forget to submit talks for IUC40
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richard: TPAC in Lisbon in September, start thinking of registering
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felix: will there be an i18n meeting?
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addison: I registered the wg with a preferece for mon/tue
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agenda?
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zakim, take up agendum 1
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agendum 1. "Radar and Active Work Review" taken up [from aphillip]
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http://w3c.github.io/i18n-activity/radar/
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https://www.w3.org/International/wiki/Project_radar
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richard: arabic guys are moving materials into a central document
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agenda?
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zakim, take up agendum 3
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agendum 3. "Emoji Presentation" taken up [from aphillip]
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https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2016Mar/0015.html
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(addison summarizes)
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richard: what we're asking for is a way to set default presentation for characters that can be either text or emoji
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action: addison: contact CSS about adding a CSS property for emoji default presentation selection
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Created ACTION-500 - Contact css about adding a css property for emoji default presentation selection [on Addison Phillips - due 2016-03-31].
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http://www.unicode.org/reports/tr51/proposed.html#Emoji_Variation_Selectors
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http://www.unicode.org/review/pri319/
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addison: have three things: vs, script, locale extension
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richard: happy to say we're unhappy with scripts as a WG?
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+1
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addison: agree; I think that's not well thought through
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richard: actually four things, if you count css, btw
15:30:21 [Steve_Atkin]
+1
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+1
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rishida+1
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Script emoji: +1 (oppose)
15:34:00 [fsasaki]
+1
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so resolved
15:34:26 [JcK]
My only concern, after that conversation, is that we are not going far enough.
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action: addison: add to PRI319 opposition of I18N WG to script subtag
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Created ACTION-501 - Add to pri319 opposition of i18n wg to script subtag [on Addison Phillips - due 2016-03-31].
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richard: encourage Mark to actively lead discussion
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addison: agreed
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agenda?
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zakim, take up agendum 4
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agendum 4. "UTR#20" taken up [from aphillip]
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https://www.w3.org/TR/unicode-xml/
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https://www.w3.org/International/track/products/39
15:49:50 [fsasaki]
+1 to JcK - statement may be sufficient if we don't get an analysis by the editors themselves
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wait on martin/asums to see if they'll edit/revise the document
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then plan republication strategy
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agenda?
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zakim, take up agendum 5
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agendum 5. "processing unsent comments" taken up [from aphillip]
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richard: https://github.com/w3c/i18n-activity/labels/pending
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https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Member/member-i18n-core/2016Mar/0024.html
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richard: moved our tracker comments to github
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... didn't move some older ones from like 2013 behind
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... these are the ones that were raised but never forwarded
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... could winnow the list
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... go through in meeting or assign or ... ?
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action: addison: review the unsent/pending github issues from tracker and triage for next call, sending notes to people who raised issues
15:58:04 [trackbot]
Created ACTION-502 - Review the unsent/pending github issues from tracker and triage for next call, sending notes to people who raised issues [on Addison Phillips - due 2016-03-31].
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/03/24-i18n-minutes.html aphillip
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agenda?
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Topic: AOB?
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richard: rewrote the script for the open issues
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/03/24-i18n-minutes.html aphillip
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zakim, bye
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leaving. As of this point the attendees have been Addison, felix, Steve, Atkin, JcK
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rrsagent, make minutes
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I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/03/24-i18n-minutes.html aphillip
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rrsagent, bye
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I see 3 open action items saved in http://www.w3.org/2016/03/24-i18n-actions.rdf :
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ACTION: addison: contact CSS about adding a CSS property for emoji default presentation selection [1]
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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2016/03/24-i18n-irc#T15-26-40
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ACTION: addison: add to PRI319 opposition of I18N WG to script subtag [2]
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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2016/03/24-i18n-irc#T15-34-48
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ACTION: addison: review the unsent/pending github issues from tracker and triage for next call, sending notes to people who raised issues [3]
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recorded in http://www.w3.org/2016/03/24-i18n-irc#T15-58-04
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