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13:06:50 <Yingying> scribe: Yingying
13:06:56 <kaz> [ so far: Kaz, Dave, Soumya, Achille, Arne, Carsten, Frank, Jollen, Louay, Nan, Tuan, Yingying ]
13:07:01 <Yingying> chair: Suomya
13:07:17 <kaz> Agenda: https://lists.w3.org/Archives/Public/public-wot-ig/2016Mar/0003.html
13:07:51 <Yingying> topic: Finalizing the TF-DI tech landscape evaluation table
13:08:41 <Soumya> https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Tech_Landscape_Evaluation
13:08:43 <Yingying> Suomya went through the landscape evaluation page.
13:08:58 <kaz> s/https/-> https/
13:09:12 <kaz> s/Evaluation/Evaluation Tech Landscape Evaluation/
13:09:17 <kaz> rrsagent, make log public
13:09:20 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
13:09:20 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/03/02-wot-di-minutes.html kaz
13:09:34 <Yingying> Suomya: could Louay update the WS-Discovery in the category 2: finding things on my network?
13:09:40 <Yingying> Louay: Yes.
13:10:16 <kaz> -> https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Tech_Landscape_Evaluation#Category:_3.29_Searching_in_Directories Category 3
13:10:17 <Yingying> Soumya: is anybody interested in category 3, 4 and 5.
13:10:33 <Yingying> [no]
13:10:41 <Yingying> Soumya: I will ask in the mailing list.
13:11:02 <kaz> i|anybody|-> https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Tech_Landscape_Evaluation#Category:_4.29_Searching_across_Peers Category 4|
13:11:23 <kaz> i|anybody|-> https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Tech_Landscape_Evaluation#Category:_5.29_Accessing_thing_metadata Category 5|
13:11:29 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
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13:11:50 <Yingying> topic: Discussing the deliverables
13:11:52 <kaz> s/in the/on the/
13:11:58 <Louay> present+ Louay_Bassbouss
13:11:59 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
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13:12:27 <Yingying> Suomya: one other deliverable is Discovery Solutions IoT Consortia.
13:12:36 <kaz> -> https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/Discovery_Solutions_Iot_Consortia Discovery Solutions IoT Consortia
13:12:46 <kaz> q+
13:13:03 <Yingying> ...do you see any other consortium we need to work together for deliverables?
13:13:43 <Yingying> Kaz: this table is a bit similiar with the one on github? Maybe it should be integrated into the landscape document/
13:13:49 <kaz> -> http://w3c.github.io/wot/landscape.html#tech-landscape-for-thing-discovery
13:13:58 <Yingying> Soumya: Yes.
13:14:21 <kaz> s/discovery/discovery Tech Landscape document; Section 3: Thing Discovery
13:14:40 <kaz> s|document/|document?|
13:15:16 <Yingying> Suomya: we will have another subsection for discoveru Solution.
13:15:31 <Yingying> s/discoveru/discovery
13:15:36 <Yingying> s/discoveru/discovery/
13:16:00 <Yingying> Topic: Discussion/Break-out topics for next F2F in Montreal
13:16:31 <Yingying> Suomya: we would like to dive into the provisioning which we haven't covered so far.
13:16:43 <kaz> -> https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/F2F_meeting_2016,_April,_11th_-_13th,_Montreal,_Canada Montreal f2f wiki
13:16:57 <Yingying> ...welcome any other suggestions for the breakout session topics.
13:17:01 <kaz> q+
13:17:29 <Yingying> Kaz: should be the breakout session a joint one or just a DI breakout session?
13:17:47 <Yingying> Suomya: Yes.
13:18:10 <Yingying> Dave: provisioning is definitely an important part to discussion.
13:18:38 <Yingying> ...security is also important topic.
13:18:59 <Yingying> Suomya: Yes. I already discussed it with Oliver.
13:19:07 <dsr> s/security/trust/
13:19:51 <Yingying> Topic: working group work item
13:20:26 <Yingying> Suomya: Discovery is dependant on scripting API and TD.
13:21:05 <Yingying> ...We will not have a separate item as discovery.
13:21:27 <kaz> -> https://github.com/w3c/wot/blob/master/WG/wot-wg-items.md WoT WG items
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13:21:44 <Yingying> ...you can see the lifecycle methods bullet in the scope of scripting API. And the registering and creating things as well, which are related to discovery.
13:22:30 <Yingying> ...in TD it's important to setup guidleines on how to discover and filter TD. Another one is to consider the lifecycle in TD.
13:22:52 <kaz> present+ Natasha
13:23:27 <Yingying> ...is there any thing missed or out of the scope for the items we listed here?
13:23:48 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
13:23:48 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/03/02-wot-di-minutes.html kaz
13:23:51 <Yingying> Kaz: discovery is important part of TD and scripting API.
13:24:35 <Yingying> Dave: Jeorg asked me to merge this to a draft charter of the upcoming WG. I will merge these into the draft charter.
13:24:40 <Louay> q+
13:25:13 <Yingying> Suomya: we can see we agree on the items.
13:26:00 <Yingying> Kaz: Dave, @@?
13:26:09 <kaz> q?
13:26:14 <Yingying> Dave: @@2
13:26:58 <Yingying> Kaz: we should clarify the relationship between the TD/Resource and the Scripting API.
13:27:05 <dsr> s/@@/I plan to copy the proposed work items into the charter I started last year on GitHub in markdown/
13:27:17 <Yingying> ...we should clarify during the AP and TD calls further.
13:27:19 <kaz> s/@@?/are you planning to put the information directly into the HTML format under the charter-drafts repo?/
13:27:24 <kaz> ack k
13:27:29 <dsr> ack L
13:28:14 <kaz> s/@@2/already have the HTML template but would put the information together first and then put them into the HTML template later/
13:28:15 <Yingying> Louay: we need 2 functions, for configured and not configured files.
13:28:24 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
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13:28:26 <dsr> s/files/devices/
13:28:38 <dsr> q+
13:28:41 <Yingying> Suomya: it should be handled by TD.
13:29:08 <kaz> Meeting: WoT IG - TF-DI
13:29:26 <kaz> present+ Kaz, Dave, Soumya, Achille, Arne, Carsten, Frank, Jollen, Louay, Nan, Tuan, Yingying
13:29:29 <dsr> ack d
13:29:30 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
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13:29:39 <Yingying> ...you can send an email in the list to ask Sebastian whether it should be updated by TD.
13:30:16 <Yingying> Dave: discovery is related with query things and register things.
13:30:41 <kaz> s|s/@@2/already have the HTML template but would put the information together first and then put them into the HTML template later/||
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13:31:12 <dsr> For discovery, we need a registration API, either for a thing or to set up a proxy for a thing
13:31:12 <kaz> s|s/discoveru/discovery/||
13:31:13 <Yingying> Suomya: I discussed with Johannes. The querying is related with protocols. The registration should be quite simple and straightforward.
13:31:14 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
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13:31:37 <kaz> q+
13:32:29 <dsr> ack k
13:32:35 <Yingying> Suomya: we could discuss it in tomorrow's IG call and see where we should put it.
13:33:41 <Yingying> Kaz: We need to clarify the vocabulary for Things, Services, applications, etc.
13:33:41 <kaz> kaz: @@
13:33:56 <kaz> s/kaz: @@//
13:34:38 <kaz> s/etc./etc. For example, Servient could be an entity which simply provide some service including all Things, Devices and Applications/
13:34:47 <kaz> s/provide/provides/
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13:35:04 <kaz> soumya: good topic for the IG call tomorrow
13:35:06 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
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13:35:26 <Yingying> Dave: IAB Semantic interoperability whitepaper
13:36:32 <Yingying> ...we now use an online MS document.
13:36:44 <Yingying> Suomya: mailing list should be fine.
13:37:18 <Yingying> Dave: oneM2M @@@1
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13:37:59 <Yingying> ...IAB workshop is coming soon. We should make it.
13:38:28 <dsr> s/@@@1/contributors to the whitepaper/
13:38:39 <dsr> s/IAB/joint/
13:38:45 <Yingying> ...when it's ready, we will have the document reviewed more broadly.
13:39:06 <Yingying> Suomya: some news for the Montreal F2F meeting?
13:39:32 <Yingying> Dave: I am working with Jeorg to finalize the open day talks.
13:39:53 <Yingying> ...the plan is to have joint dinner on Monday evening after open day.
13:40:51 <Yingying> ...we also have the W3C track at WWW2016. We have 2 sessions on WoT. Marie-Claire is working on puting the agenda there.
13:41:01 <Soumya> https://www.w3.org/2016/04/w3c-track.html
13:41:09 <Yingying> Dave: is everybody encouraged to join the W3C track?
13:41:24 <Yingying> s/Dave:/Kaz:
13:41:25 <kaz> -> https://www.w3.org/WoT/IG/wiki/F2F_meeting_2016,_April,_11th_-_13th,_Montreal,_Canada Montreal f2f wiki
13:41:26 <Yingying> s/Dave:/Kaz:/
13:41:38 <Yingying> Dave: it's not free.
13:42:19 <Yingying> Dave: Daniel is organizing the plugfest. if you have any suggestions, please speak out.
13:42:42 <kaz> s/it's not free./depends on the people since it's not free./
13:42:46 <Yingying> Suomya: anything else for today?
13:42:46 <Yingying> [no]
13:42:59 <Yingying> Suomya: our next meeting will focus on the provisioning.
13:43:22 <Yingying> ...thank you for joining and for contributions to the landscape documents.
13:43:28 <Yingying> [adjourned]
13:43:37 <Yingying> rrsagent, make minutes
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