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16:04:29 <elisabeth_UCF> Thanks, Sarah!
16:06:02 <SarahHorton> David: Introductions
16:09:20 <SarahHorton> David: Background on community group
16:09:27 <sloandr> https://www.w3.org/community/accesslearn/wiki/Work_Streams#1._Gap_analysis_of_existing_WAI_documents
16:09:30 <SarahHorton> David: Workstream proposal
16:09:55 <SarahHorton> David: Initial proposal based on discussions from last month's meeting. Parallel activities probably
16:10:33 <SarahHorton> David: One workstream looking at gap analysis, where do W3C resources cover online learning, where are there gaps, what additions might we recommend
16:11:09 <SarahHorton> David: Our group does not have ability to produce documents, but we can look at gaps in existing W3C and WAI resources
16:11:42 <SarahHorton> David: Other workstream to look at what online learning community needs, more open discussion of what's needed
16:12:04 <SarahHorton> David: Two workstreams come together down the road to produce recommendations for W3C
16:12:35 <SarahHorton> David: Purpose of today's meeting to discuss workstream proposal
16:13:05 <SarahHorton> David: Do they make sense, are they activities the groups wants to be involved in
16:13:37 <SarahHorton> David: Open meeting to discussion of proposal
16:14:03 <SarahHorton> Lisa: Likes idea of two streams, both can do different things but work together, two streams go well together
16:14:24 <SarahHorton> Lisa: What kind of results are expected from workstreams? Is it a report, webpage?
16:14:33 <SarahHorton> Lisa: What about a timeline?
16:15:12 <SarahHorton> Lisa: Survey and/or report, everyone could work on that no matter where they are. We are in different parts of the world, what works best.
16:15:48 <SarahHorton> Elizabeth: This group could come up with recommendations for improvement, not sure how it would be received.
16:16:36 <SarahHorton> David: We have links to W3C and specifically WCAG WG, through Laura and Sarah especially. This is a communications channel that our group can use.
16:17:29 <SarahHorton> David: Also EOWG, if still active — test of how well community group model works, whether our work can have an impact on W3C processes/resources
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16:18:16 <SarahHorton> David: How can we make sure out work has a impact? Might be one activity to determine that now, good conversation to have now. Sarah and Dave will explore and report back to group
16:20:48 <SarahHorton> Sushil: On second workstream, are we looking at specific environments?
16:21:34 <SarahHorton> David: Have not arrived at formal definition of "education" — only constraints are W3C accessibility standards and how they apply to practice of designing and delivering online learning experiences
16:22:25 <SarahHorton> Lisa: Agrees with viewpoint of looking at museums, libraries, etc — will this work for everyone?
16:23:22 <SarahHorton> David: Identify variances in online learning community, perhaps one early activity would be to define range
16:24:46 <SarahHorton> Sushil: Will have to organize work by tools, e.g., learning management systems, museum online education program organized by exhibit, other tools like online conferencing systems, will need to come up with method of categorizing, will have to break into tools or some other classification to make specific recommendations.
16:26:06 <SarahHorton> David: Activities are very different depending on context, for example, how to onboard user, will be different depending on context (e.g., kiosk in museum, MOOC, university student)
16:26:26 <SarahHorton> David: Other comments on workstream proposal?
16:27:34 <SarahHorton> Sandra: Agrees on forming two workgroups, let's start organizing each group and let each group manage its work
16:28:05 <SarahHorton> David: Will need to decide on logistics, e.g., meeting times
16:28:44 <SarahHorton> Sushil: Have we identified W3C documents for first workstream?
16:28:52 <SarahHorton> David: Yes, posting link
16:28:59 <sloandr> https://www.w3.org/community/accesslearn/wiki/Relevant_W3C_Resources_on_Accessible_Online_Learning
16:29:56 <SarahHorton> David: First attempt at listing resources from the W3C site, avoided (normative) guideline documents, focused on guidance documents — a starter to give sense of different available resources
16:30:19 <SarahHorton> David: Will want to look beyond accessibility documents at others that have an impact on accessibility
16:31:22 <SarahHorton> David: For example, personas of students/instructors with disabilities was identified as a useful resource. There are "personas" on W3C site that include learners, so that might be one worth expanding/developing
16:31:45 <egyrs> Agree ;-9
16:31:59 <SarahHorton> David: Use of surveys?
16:34:56 <SarahHorton> Sarah: Discussion of use of survey to make decisions for the group
16:35:25 <SarahHorton> David: Reminder to work on surveys that we had administered previously
16:35:47 <SarahHorton> Lisa: After today, how about doing a survey everyone is in agreement for the two streams
16:35:59 <SarahHorton> Lisa: Also use it to choose which workstream
16:36:29 <SarahHorton> Lisa: Then use surveys to decide on how the groups work
16:36:59 <SarahHorton> David: We also have the wiki to work on and collaborate on documents
16:37:28 <SarahHorton> David: The wiki is public, good evidence of our work
16:37:59 <SarahHorton> David: Let us know if you have any issues getting access to edit the wiki.
16:39:25 <SarahHorton> David: Actions: a) update workstream proposal based on discussion, b) launch survey to ask who wants to be invovled, c) Sarah and Dave will propose a working model
16:39:53 <SarahHorton> David: Ted asked about potential of group having informal meeting at CSUN
16:40:06 <SarahHorton> David: Who on call is planning to attend CSUN?
16:40:39 <SarahHorton> David: CSUN is largest conference focused on digital accessibility
16:41:21 <SarahHorton> David: Will ask on the mailing list and see if we can make something happen
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16:43:46 <elisabeth_UCF> I was just able to log into the wiki
16:43:47 <SarahHorton> David: Next meeting time will be during CSUN conference, may try to meet up at CSUN, and next teleconference in April
16:45:57 <SarahHorton> rrsagent, draft minutes
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17:46:52 <SarahHorton> rrsagent, bye
17:46:52 <RRSAgent> I see no action items