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15:55:04 <alexandra_mikityuk> hi
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16:04:20 <kaz> present: Kaz, Alexandra, Bill, Colin, Nilo
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16:09:18 <kaz> zakim, pick up scribe
16:09:18 <Zakim> I don't understand 'pick up scribe', kaz
16:09:31 <kaz> zakim, pick a victim
16:09:31 <Zakim> Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose Nilo
16:09:34 <kaz> zakim, pick a victim
16:09:34 <Zakim> Not knowing who is chairing or who scribed recently, I propose Colin
16:10:29 <kaz> scribenick: colin
16:10:33 <kaz> scribe: Colin
16:11:17 <colin> alexandro propose short introduction
16:11:54 <colin> kaz staff contact w3c
16:12:10 <kaz> s/alexandro/alexandra/
16:12:30 <colin> bill_rose representing NBC universal
16:13:17 <kaz> present+ Calin
16:13:34 <colin> calin irdeto (first time in meeting)
16:14:34 <colin> colin from active video (activevideo has a cloud browser solution)
16:14:54 <colin> milo from erricson
16:15:23 <kaz> present+ Julian
16:15:49 <kaz> i/alexandra/topic: brief self introduction/
16:15:49 <colin> 1 invited expert (colin)
16:16:07 <colin> irdeto provides security solution
16:16:45 <colin> ... contribute with there cloud network
16:17:04 <colin> .. has rdk reference
16:17:06 <kaz> s/irdeto/alexandra: irdeto/
16:18:19 <colin> agenda: 3 items organisational issues, general issues architectural and use cases
16:19:17 <colin> two subpoint organisation: add name to the participation list (wiki)
16:19:22 <kaz> -> https://www.w3.org/2011/webtv/wiki/Main_Page/Cloud_Browser_TF/Cloud_Browser_TF_Participants TF participants list
16:20:28 <colin> second point: time slot conference call. change for entrix. they propose same day but two hours earlier
16:20:35 <kaz> -> http://doodle.com/poll/a87tx7tdxsgciy4k Doodle poll
16:21:18 <kaz> s/.. has/... has/
16:21:19 <colin> not reschedule time (doodle) but maybe next week
16:21:56 <kaz> s/agenda: 3/... agenda: 3/
16:22:09 <kaz> s/two subpoint/... two subpoint/
16:22:21 <kaz> s/second point/... second point/
16:22:33 <kaz> s/not reschedule/... not reschedule/
16:22:40 <kaz> rrsagent, make log public
16:22:44 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
16:22:44 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/02/17-webtv-minutes.html kaz
16:22:46 <colin> nobody has problems attending 2 hours earlier
16:24:20 <colin> ... provided important links in mail
16:24:48 <colin> ... architecture discussion is important because it is different (normally not discussed)
16:24:54 <kaz> i/provided/RESOLUTION: The time slot for the Cloud Browser TF call will be 2-hour earlier (=9am Eastern) on Wednesday every two weeks starting with the next call on March 2/
16:25:13 <kaz> s/... provided/alexandra: provided/
16:25:23 <kaz> s/nobody has/... nobody has/
16:25:25 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
16:25:25 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/02/17-webtv-minutes.html kaz
16:25:28 <colin> ... go through section wiki architecture
16:25:39 <colin> ... added terminology
16:26:16 <colin> ... alexandra describe some terminology
16:26:52 <colin> ... the cloud browser is a UA initiated in the cloud
16:27:07 <kaz> i/agenda: 3/topic: agenda and organisational issues/
16:27:09 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
16:27:09 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/02/17-webtv-minutes.html kaz
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16:27:25 <julian_sitkevich> +present Julian_Sitkevich
16:27:29 <colin> .... out-of-band media is used in the dubble stream approach
16:27:52 <colin> ... added section evolution
16:27:52 <kaz> i/provided important/topic: architecture discussion/
16:27:53 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
16:27:53 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/02/17-webtv-minutes.html kaz
16:28:16 <colin> i/dubble/double
16:29:08 <colin> ... main architecture from a perspective of DT
16:29:32 <kaz> i|provided important|-> https://www.w3.org/2011/webtv/wiki/Main_Page/Cloud_Browser_TF/UseCases Use Cases|
16:29:50 <kaz> i|provided important|-> https://www.w3.org/2011/webtv/wiki/Main_Page/Cloud_Browser_TF/Architecture Architecture|
16:29:52 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
16:29:52 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/02/17-webtv-minutes.html kaz
16:29:54 <colin> ... single stream could be any data and render it into stream to the user
16:31:08 <kaz> s/dubble/double/
16:31:26 <kaz> s|i/dubble/double/||
16:31:28 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
16:31:28 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/02/17-webtv-minutes.html kaz
16:31:33 <colin> ... double stream separate streams to the user. could be needed in a broadcast network
16:32:46 <colin> ... cloud player is used for single stream
16:32:59 <colin> ... local player is used for double stream
16:33:40 <colin> ... two different aspects for delivering video to the player
16:33:53 <colin> ... maybe useful to add a matrix
16:36:03 <colin> ... alexandra specify terminology in matrix
16:38:27 <colin> ... with detail explanation
16:38:35 <kaz> q+
16:39:49 <kaz> ack k
16:39:55 <colin> ... kaz suggest to add a diagram even made by hand
16:40:12 <kaz> s/... kaz/kaz: /
16:40:31 <kaz> rrsagent, draft mintues
16:40:31 <RRSAgent> I'm logging. I don't understand 'draft mintues', kaz.  Try /msg RRSAgent help
16:40:36 <colin> alexandra will add a diagram
16:40:37 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
16:40:37 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/02/17-webtv-minutes.html kaz
16:41:00 <kaz> action: alexandra to add a diagram on the architecture to the wiki
16:41:01 <trackbot> Created ACTION-212 - Add a diagram on the architecture to the wiki [on Alexandra Mikityuk - due 2016-02-24].
16:43:44 <colin> kaz suggest to add comments to the architecture
16:44:40 <kaz> s/kaz suggest/kaz: suggest/
16:45:00 <colin> julian ask question: do we define the approach.
16:45:41 <kaz> i/julian/... we could clarify which part of the architecture is the core and stable, and which part is flexible/
16:47:13 <kaz> colin: we started this wiki to clarify the architecture design
16:47:28 <kaz> topic: use cases
16:47:42 <kaz> -> https://www.w3.org/2011/webtv/wiki/Main_Page/Cloud_Browser_TF/UseCases Use Cases
16:49:16 <colin> alexandra: added cloud 360 use case
16:49:44 <colin> ... also edited audio but not complete
16:50:51 <colin> ... also web conferencies. describe web conferencies on the cloud browser
16:51:16 <kaz> s/conferencies/conferences/
16:51:41 <kaz> s/conferences/conferencing/
16:52:22 <kaz> s/conferencies/conferencing/
16:52:45 <colin> kaz: describe the process of creating use cases. i.e discuss this in the calls
16:53:04 <colin> q+
16:53:17 <kaz> alexandra: is it OK to deal with game use cases here?
16:53:37 <kaz> kaz: if somebody is interested, we can try
16:54:08 <kaz> colin: the use cases are quit specific
16:54:33 <kaz> ... we might want to try some simpler use cases?
16:55:40 <kaz> alxandra: there are different positions/sides
16:56:07 <kaz> ... so might make sense to have two separate use case documents
16:56:26 <kaz> colin: what I meant was rather some key input for use cases
16:56:39 <kaz> ... simple use cases
16:56:55 <kaz> ... not saying one is better than the other
16:57:39 <kaz> kaz: do you mean we should categorize the use cases?
16:57:54 <kaz> colin: yes, e.g., input category
16:58:01 <kaz> ... that would make sense to me
16:58:47 <kaz> kaz: in that case, maybe you can add your ideas on possible categories
16:58:50 <kaz> ... to the wiki
16:59:06 <kaz> ... and we can classify the existing use cases based on that
16:59:12 <kaz> ... also we can add some more use cases
16:59:18 <kaz> alexandra: let's do that
16:59:26 <colin> ... anyone could add use cases to the wiki page
16:59:39 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
16:59:39 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/02/17-webtv-minutes.html kaz
17:00:32 <colin> alexandra: work to do on the use cases. maybe some people on the line
17:00:42 <colin> ... no questions ...
17:01:09 <colin> ... put link to the public mailing list
17:01:10 <kaz> s/on the line/on the line. e.g., Louay was interested in Cloud 360/
17:01:21 <kaz> s/put/will put/
17:01:30 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
17:01:30 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/02/17-webtv-minutes.html kaz
17:01:32 <kaz> q?
17:01:44 <kaz> ack c
17:02:39 <colin> next call two hours earlier
17:03:02 <kaz> s/next call/next call in two weeks (=March 2)/
17:03:02 <colin> * thanks kaz for helping me
17:03:21 <alexandra_mikityuk> thank you both!
17:03:49 <kaz> [ adjourned ]
17:03:55 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
17:03:55 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/02/17-webtv-minutes.html kaz
17:06:10 <kaz> Meeting: Web&TV IG - Cloud Browser TF
17:06:16 <kaz> Chair: Alexandra
17:06:22 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
17:06:22 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/02/17-webtv-minutes.html kaz
17:06:57 <kaz> i/is it OK to/scribenick: kaz/
17:06:58 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
17:06:58 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/02/17-webtv-minutes.html kaz
17:07:27 <kaz> i/anyone could/scribenick: colin/
17:07:28 <kaz> rrsagent, draft minutes
17:07:28 <RRSAgent> I have made the request to generate http://www.w3.org/2016/02/17-webtv-minutes.html kaz
17:07:49 <kaz> rrsagent, stop